Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[Joff]

Yep me too. I fully believe I will get it at some point but I work in a retail store (albeit there is plenty of scope to work from home), the store is very busy and the majority of my team are all pretty young. We also have events on loads of times as well.

I havent socialised anywhere close to before the pandemic and maybe that is why I have avoided it thus far.

If I have had it then I must have been asymptomatic because since Jan 2020 I have only had two incidents of being unwell and that was a cold in summer 2020 and a day or two after my second vaccination.

Well my wife caught covid back in early november, who in turn gave it to my son a week later. Because of all this I had to test daily for work (and my daughter daily for school) and I never fell ill. My son and I were slightly unwell back in September after we went to the Chelsea home match, but neither tested positive on pcr.

[west_london_red]

An antibody test can tell you if you’ve had an infection. It’s different to what the PCR and lateral flow tests look for and is usually done from blood from a skin prick sample.

An antibody test can look for antibodies to spike (you’ve had an infection or vaccine) or antibodies to the nucleocapsid or shell of the virus. Only infection would give antibodies to nucleocapsid so most tests will be for both.

Some select groups can get them free on NHS, lots of other companies do them too think they are about £50. Needs to be taken a few weeks after infection but it may not pick up antibodies in everyone whose had an infection.

In contradiction to my previous post and efforts, this looks like what your talking about?

https://monitormyhealth.org.uk/covid19-antibody-test/

[djahern]

In contradiction to my previous post and efforts, this looks like what your talking about?

https://monitormyhealth.org.uk/covid19-antibody-test/

Yea that’s one. And this.

https://www.bupa.co.uk/health/payg/covid-testing

No idea how good they are though. The Roche one has been tested a lot I think.

[RainbowFlick]

In contradiction to my previous post and efforts, this looks like what your talking about?

https://monitormyhealth.org.uk/covid19-antibody-test/

Superdrug do one too for like £50. Contemplated it but also don't really want to prick myself lol

[Macphisto80]

Is it potentially harmful if you get a booster if you've recently been infected but were asymptomatic?

[west_london_red]

Superdrug do one too for like £50. Contemplated it but also don't really want to prick myself lol

I got randomly selected for a trial in October 2020 or there about and did a pin prick test then which was negative, but that was before Alpha I think, never mind vaccines, Delta or Omicron. I’m pretty tempted to spend the £50 because I can’t believe I haven’t caught it yet. I stick to the rules as they have been at the time but there’s still been a lot of time spend on public transport, in pubs, restaurants, plus I have kids in nursery and school bringing back all kinds of sickness, my wife can’t work from home so she’s always been going to work throughout but I have never tested positive by either LFT or PCR.

[JasonF]

Is it potentially harmful if you get a booster if you've recently been infected but were asymptomatic?

I had this same question as I recently had some minor symptoms but a negative PCR test, followed by some of my family getting symptoms and receiving positive lateral flow and PCR tests. I cancelled my booster appointment, isolated and just assumed I had it too and had just tested too early and since I never actually received a positive test I was keen to rebook it but not sure if I should wait a month.

A friend sent me the following:

"You can have the vaccine 28 days after you had a positive test for Covid-19 or 28 days after your symptoms started.

This is firstly to ensure you are not still infectious, and to give people time to fully recover before getting the jab"

I'm having my booster tomorrow, which is more like 3 weeks. I've passed a lateral flow test on Xmas day and I feel completely fine. If you're well and not contagious then go for it I reckon.

[RF]

The actual cases are way, way higher than is being reported. A lot of the 20-30yr olds haven't bothered testing recently. They didn't want to spoil their xmas and now don't want to spoil their new year celebrations. They see the news and see that Omicron is less severe and want to crack on with life. If I was their age I would probably do the same.

Btw since posting that I would not be wearing a mask again, I yielded and wear one in shops for now.

It's an age thing.

[jillcwhomever]

Has anyone been watching  the BBC lectures on BBC4? It's all on covid-19 and the pandemic and the scientific advances which have been achieved so far. It's fascinating stuff especially the mathematics behind the R number and how they calculated early on the numbers affected globally.

[farawayred]

Has anyone been watching  the BBC lectures on BBC4? It's all on covid-19 and the pandemic and the scientific advances which have been achieved so far. It's fascinating stuff especially the mathematics behind the R number and how they calculated early on the numbers affected globally.

Do you remember the title, Jill? I get some of the BBC channels in the US, so maybe I'll be lucky to come across that program.

[jillcwhomever]

Do you remember the title, Jill? I get some of the BBC channels in the US, so maybe I'll be lucky to come across that program.

It's called the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures, it's currently on iPlayer if you are able to get that. It's 3 lectures altogether, the last one is tomorrow the first  2 are available now.

[Thepooloflife]

Has anyone been watching  the BBC lectures on BBC4? It's all on covid-19 and the pandemic and the scientific advances which have been achieved so far. It's fascinating stuff especially the mathematics behind the R number and how they calculated early on the numbers affected globally.

Yeah, great stuff - Prof Van Tam was on

[west_london_red]

I remember those from when I was a kid!

[jillcwhomever]

Yeah, great stuff - Prof Van Tam was on

It was brilliant how they simplified everything it's been a while since something  intrigued me as much,  also nice to see people getting recognition for what they've done. All about the vaccines tomorrow.

[jillcwhomever]

208,000 new cases in France, that's in a country with new restrictions as well. 😮

[djahern]

Is it potentially harmful if you get a booster if you've recently been infected but were asymptomatic?

Not at all. The delay is purely down to timing it to the immune responses going on. The first exposure in this graph is your first vaccine (or infection if you had it first). Then everything subsequent to that, be it a vaccine or infection, you can think of as a secondary response. Each of those secondary exposures strengthening the immune response, but each taking a couple of weeks for antibody levels to rise quickly and then fall. For most benefit of any exposure coming after that second one in the graph, you want it after the antibody levels have fallen and plateaued rather than when they are still high where it would give little additional benefit above the infection itself. So for confirmed infections, the advice is to wait the 28 days for any of the vaccine doses, first, second, or third.

[Macphisto80]

Not at all. The delay is purely down to timing it to the immune responses going on. The first exposure in this graph is your first vaccine (or infection if you had it first). Then everything subsequent to that, be it a vaccine or infection, you can think of as a secondary response. Each of those secondary exposures strengthening the immune response, but each taking a couple of weeks for antibody levels to rise quickly and then fall. For most benefit of any exposure coming after that second one in the graph, you want it after the antibody levels have fallen and plateaued rather than when they are still high where it would give little additional benefit above the infection itself. So for confirmed infections, the advice is to wait the 28 days for any of the vaccine doses, first, second, or third.

Thanks for clarifying it. It was just the 28 day thing if you knew you were infected that was a tad confusing. Itd be a bit of a logistical nightmare if there were any potential hazards in vaccinating if there were increased potential for side effects or compliction due to a fresh infection for the reason that everyone would need confirmation via a PCR beforehand.

[Alf]

Had the booster and tested positive a few days later. Had a temperature, lost some taste & smell which came back after about 72 hours.

[thaddeus]

208,000 new cases in France, that's in a country with new restrictions as well. 😮

I don't think the new ones come into force until next week.  Those they already have in place (nightclubs being closed, for example) don't seem to be making much of a difference.

The Netherlands went into pretty much a lockdown the week before Christmas and their case numbers are dropping.  Anecodatally it shows lockdowns can slow down Omicron but I'm not sure what the long-term plan is.  At some point (currently mid-January) they will need to open up again and Omicron will take hold then instead of now.  Maybe they're trying to buy themselves some time to get their booster rates up.

Cases are also dropping in Germany though where they don't have many restrictions so it's hard to know what is and isn't working.  The contrast between case rates in France and Germany is really stark!

[djahern]

Highest number of COVID cases where I work since 25th February. Once the new normal flow of non COVID stuff that has been building over the years resumes, it'll be total chaos. Very worrying

Are you seeing that it’s not the ICU wards but the level below that are the ones that are feeling the bulk of the pressure this time around? Think that’s one good thing that the data seems to be pointing to. But of course there’s still a limit to those bed numbers and we run the risk and bumping up to that limit soon.

Seems to me that countries are going to face a wide range of scenarios, even though all dealing with the same ‘milder’ omicron, that are related to two things - their vaccination rates and their usual ‘spare’ hospital bed capacity. Those with low vaccination rates will see the pressure in ICU beds and those with high vaccination rates will see the pressure in the non-ICU beds. So maybe the US for the former and Western Europe for the later. Then bed capacity comes into play, high spare capacity and you can get through this with good-to-great vaccination rates, low spare capacity and even great vaccination rates won’t be enough. So maybe Germany (?) for the former and Ireland for the latter.

I think those two things now become the measure of which countries can ride this out, less spare bed capacity is a drag on your better vaccination rates, but more spare capacity might make up for a shortfall in vaccination rate. UK for me falls in the middle a bit - really good vaccination rate but fairly rubbish spare hospital capacity. Just not sure what balance of the two means yes you can ride this thing out, or no this will overwhelm the healthcare system without something to mitigate it. I’d think that using that basic test as to how a country might be able to deal with omicron means that the US could be facing a very very rough time.

[killer-heels]

Is Jeremy Corbyn an anti vaxxer?

[NCrawley]

Had booster on Monday and now just tested positive on an LFT, I assume no correlation and I have deffo got it? Booking in a PCR now!

[RainbowFlick]

Is Jeremy Corbyn an anti vaxxer?

everyone has a Piers Corbyn in their family. Jeremy has been vocally pro-vaccine. not sure why it really matters anyway, he's not Keith Starmer.

[tubby]

everyone has a Piers Corbyn in their family. Jeremy has been vocally pro-vaccine. not sure why it really matters anyway, he's not Keith Starmer.

Corbyn wouldn't confirm or deny whether he'd had the vaccine earlier this year.

[TepidT2O]

Corbyn wouldn't confirm or deny whether he'd had the vaccine earlier this year.

He said didn’t have the flu vaccine and then said he wasn’t prepared to discuss his health issues when asked about a covid vaccine a few months later. So no he’s not been vaccinated obviously.

However, he has publicly called for people to get vaccinated and boosted, so I don’t think it’s fair to call him an anti vaxxer as such.

[So… Howard Philips]

everyone has a Piers Corbyn in their family. Jeremy has been vocally pro-vaccine. not sure why it really matters anyway, he's not Keith Starmer.

Speak for yourself!

I don't think we have a climate change denying, anti -vax supporting geriatric condoner of arson in my family.

[LiamG]

hope your Nan and parents will be OK mate, i'm assuming she's been boosted?

Nope, she’s home bound and they are being really slow in getting round there to give her the booster!

I’m just glad they’ve all caught What’s probably Omicron and not any previous variant

[Red Beret]

NHS has been texting me about my friend who tested positive for Covid, asking me to register for a new test and trace function.  Tried three times and got knocked back each time because it complained the password I was using to set it up wasn't strong enough. 

I know government and nhs like their security  - when they're not flogging the personal histories of their citizens at least - but come the fuck on. It's test and trace, not a fucking bank account. I was using numbers, symbols, oddly placed capital letters, and it still wasn't having it. Tried several different combinations, but no joy.

They're only going to put people off with an annoying system like this.

[Red Beret]

Had booster on Monday and now just tested positive on an LFT, I assume no correlation and I have deffo got it? Booking in a PCR now!

Are you sure your test isn't just showing your body's reaction to the booster? I dunno how that might work.

[daindan]

Obviously at the moment when nhs staff etc test positive they isolate which stretches hospitals etc. I wonder how long until we treat it like a cold ie turn up to work etc still or does the fact they deal with unvaccinated people mean it can’t happen

[killer-heels]

He said didn’t have the flu vaccine and then said he wasn’t prepared to discuss his health issues when asked about a covid vaccine a few months later. So no he’s not been vaccinated obviously.

However, he has publicly called for people to get vaccinated and boosted, so I don’t think it’s fair to call him an anti vaxxer as such.

Thanks, just was wondering whether Corbyn had called for people to be vaccinated as I hadnt seen it around.

[NCrawley]

Are you sure your test isn't just showing your body's reaction to the booster? I dunno how that might work.

Well that’s what I thought but I feel shocking and it’s now 3 days since the booster so 2+2 have looked elsewhere and the concensus is booster shouldn’t effect a test result at all. Have done another LFT and exactly the same instant dark line.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/29/anti-vaxxers-denounce-covid-testing-centre-in-freedom-march-through-milton-keynes

Inbred fuckers

Anti-vaxxers storm Covid testing centre during ‘freedom’ rally in Milton Keynes

Confused anti-vaccine protesters entered a test-and-trace centre in Milton Keynes on Wednesday, appearing to believe it was a coronavirus vaccine centre, where they were filmed shouting abuse at staff and appearing to steal equipment.

Video shared on social media showed the group of several dozen activists, led by former Ukip candidate Jeff Wyatt, walking through the facility holding signs encouraging people not to get vaccinated and criticising the BBC.

Wyatt, a former deputy leader of the far-right For Britain Movement, addressed crowds at a rally held before the storming of the Covid-19 testing site, where he claimed there are “millions” of like-minded anti-vaccine activists who have “woken up”.

Piers Corbyn, a prominent anti-lockdown protester and brother of the former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, could not be seen in the footage but was pictured attending other stops during the so-called Freedom Rally including an invasion of the Milton Keynes Theatre.

Protesters were filmed walking towards the NHS test-and-trace centre while a man on a loudspeaker claims that it is where the “vaccine rollout” is taking place as activists walk by a sign that reads “Testing”.

Other demonstrators are heard shouting “disgrace” and “shame on you” as staff appear to run away and take shelter in offices.

In several videos, a woman is seen unfurling a sign that reads “Reclaim NHS, End Jab” in one of the cabins before taking a large box containing what appears to be testing equipment and papers. She is seen unmasked and smiling at the cameras as she leaves the testing site.

Thames Valley police said they were aware of an anti-vaccination protest that took place in central Milton Keynes on Wednesday afternoon.

In a statement, the police said: “Where criminal offences have been disclosed, we will take swift action and bring offenders to justice.

“If anyone has any information or wishes to report they can do by calling 101 or online quoting reference 604 29/12/2021.”

The actions of the anti-vaccine protesters at the test-and-trace centre were described as “disgraceful” and faced widespread criticism by MPs.

The local Tory MP Ben Everitt described the protesters as “dickheads” and urged anyone with information to contact police.

Nick Thomas-Symonds, shadow secretary of state for international trade, described the protest as “dreadful”, at a site where “NHS staff are working over the festive season to help others”. He urged anyone with information to pass this on to Thames Valley police.

Former health secretary Matt Hancock criticised the activists’ “appalling behaviour”. The Conservative MP for Rutland and Melton, Alicia Kearns, described the scenes as “shameful, self-aggrandising nonsense”.

Helen Morgan, Liberal Democrat MP for North Shropshire, said the group’s actions were “totally unacceptable”.

Stella Creasy, Labour MP for Walthamstow, said the scenes were “disgraceful”. “For months now we have been warning need legislation to tackle those who harass others seeking healthcare. Government promised to act weeks ago but nothing as yet. Enough. It’s not free speech when 50% of debate in fear,” she said.

Matthew Barber, police and crime commissioner for Thames Valley, said it was “appalling” to see the protest “escalate into something much uglier”.

He added that he had spoken to Thames Valley police officers to discuss the police response on Wednesday evening, and said that “criminal offences will be investigated and appropriate action taken”.

“All of the events of today will be reviewed to help plan for future protest events and ensure that colleagues in the NHS can continue their fantastic work in delivering the vaccine rollout,” he said.

Joe Harrison, CEO of Milton Keynes University hospital, said: “I am very sorry and angry to see NHS colleagues at Milton Keynes Covid testing centre harassed and intimidated at their place of work.

“Our staff having to deal with increasing aggression and violence for simply doing their job. It’s abhorrent, unacceptable and we will not stand for it.”

[Red Beret]

Well that’s what I thought but I feel shocking and it’s now 3 days since the booster so 2+2 have looked elsewhere and the concensus is booster shouldn’t effect a test result at all. Have done another LFT and exactly the same instant dark line.

Looks like bad timing then. You're probably experiencing a double whammy of booster and Covid. 

I've just done another lft. I didn't report the previous two I did in case they were false negatives, but I'll report this one whichever way it goes. Maybe the NHS will stop pestering me then. 😅

According to the blurb, I'm exempt  from isolation for being double vaxxed, but I'm reluctant to test daily if there's a shortage of tests. :S

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I'm not one usually to stand up for Tories, but as a response to that, the local Tory MP:

    What a bunch of dickheads

    The staff & volunteers at our vax centres do an amazing job. Nobody deserves this at work

    I hope @ThamesVP get the evidence needed to bring these morons to justice

    If you have any videos or info, call 101 or report online with ref 604 29/12/2021 https://t.co/SRePhNhcam
    — Ben Everitt (@Ben_Everitt) December 29, 2021





Corbyn's brother in bed with UKIP and being a c*nt again. Why the fuck did they let this lunatic out again? He's clearly a danger to the public.

[NCrawley]

Looks like bad timing then. You're probably experiencing a double whammy of booster and Covid. 

I've just done another lft. I didn't report the previous two I did in case they were false negatives, but I'll report this one whichever way it goes. Maybe the NHS will stop pestering me then. 😅

According to the blurb, I'm exempt  from isolation for being double vaxxed, but I'm reluctant to test daily if there's a shortage of tests. :S

Yh no wonder I feel so bad 😂 just entered the result in the app and my isolation runs out at 11.59 on 9th Jan, it’s my birthday on 10th, happy birthday to me haha 🥳

[God's Left Peg]

I'm not one usually to stand up for Tories, but as a response to that, the local Tory MP:

    What a bunch of dickheads

    The staff & volunteers at our vax centres do an amazing job. Nobody deserves this at work

    I hope @ThamesVP get the evidence needed to bring these morons to justice

    If you have any videos or info, call 101 or report online with ref 604 29/12/2021 https://t.co/SRePhNhcam
    — Ben Everitt (@Ben_Everitt) December 29, 2021





Corbyn's brother in bed with UKIP and being a c*nt again. Why the fuck did they let this lunatic out again? He's clearly a danger to the public.

Yeah, it's a good response from the MP, you have to say

[So… Howard Philips]

Yeah, it's a good response from the MP, you have to say

It's a pity Thames Valley Police didn't make an appearance and lock a few up.

And looking at the photos, what a bunch of sad, ugly losers. The protesters not the absent coppers.

[PaulF]

It's a pity Thames Valley Police didn't make an appearance and lock a few up.

And looking at the photos, what a bunch of sad, ugly losers. The protesters not the absent coppers.

MKC station normally looks like that .
The subheading from the article..

"Protesters seen in video appear to confuse test site with vaccine centre while claiming to have ‘woken up’"

[Red Beret]

Yh no wonder I feel so bad 😂 just entered the result in the app and my isolation runs out at 11.59 on 9th Jan, it’s my birthday on 10th, happy birthday to me haha 🥳

Well I'm sure you will have had worse birthday presents, but probably not by much!