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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14880 on: April 12, 2024, 10:11:46 pm »
With respect mate - have a word with yourself, this is social media type polarising shit. Everybody can have an opinion and still passionately want the very best for the club.

Divisiveness (which is what you are seeding) rather than adult conversation and acceptance of differing opinions is not helping bring people together who clearly all love the club in no less way than yourself.

Find points of agreement than exploiting points of difference.



Is it not divisive to apportion blame for our abject performance on our most loyal supporters on the Kop? It's utterly laughable! If we'd had a Sparta Prague like start to the game,  the ground would have been bouncing.

I note, you haven't answered my question either. You're like bloody Unionists with your "fleg' obsession!
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14881 on: April 12, 2024, 10:14:51 pm »
It makes you wonder what the point of the flags is then?

The point of the flags is to show the unity between the fans, the players and the club they support.

Unfortunately one of those parties decided to completely disenfranchise the people who create the atmosphere. Refused to engage with the supporter groups and then brought forward the announcement a week.

I think their absence probably did affect the game a bit. The flags and banners have become a key part of the Anfield ritual, a sort of opening ceremony for the big match. That was why taking the flags out of the Kop was such a powerful statement.

And you can't have it both ways. You can't say that the flags are important and their withdrawal is a big statement and that the effect of the flags on the whole occasion is negligible or non-existent. Last night the temperature in the stadium was lowered right from the start. That was surely the intention of those who organised the protest. Otherwise why do it?

Of course we lost the game because we were badly set up to counter Atalanta's man-marking system and the players weren't smart enough to learn from what was happening. But nor could they draw on the power of Anfield when they found themselves struggling. It looked like the subdued mood had been set in the build up and it just wasn't going to change. Put it this way, there'll be no wondrous stories being told now in Bergamo about the Anfield experience. It was Atalanta who made the noise - on and off the pitch.

If the flags and the support are so important then why have the club decided to target the people who provide that atmosphere for free by trying to take even more money from supporters who are facing a cost-of-living crisis?

Above all though why are you a supposed socialist taking the side of billionaires against normal fans?

Or are we just a bit too left-wing for you?

I think it is clear that you prefer the Blair-Starmer politics of criticising the working man for having the audacity to protest. I mean imagine having the audacity to not take the flags you have bought with your own money in protest at price increases at a time of record commercial revenues partly created by the fan base.

What next people having the flaming cheek to withdraw their labour in order to earn a decent living.   
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14882 on: April 12, 2024, 10:43:59 pm »
Typically, you intentionally miss the point.

Yes, I did it intentionally. As you say, I always do. I'm nasty like that.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14883 on: April 12, 2024, 10:49:42 pm »

If the flags and the support are so important then why have the club decided to target the people who provide that atmosphere for free by trying to take even more money from supporters who are facing a cost-of-living crisis?

Above all though why are you a supposed socialist taking the side of billionaires against normal fans?

Or are we just a bit too left-wing for you?

I think it is clear that you prefer the Blair-Starmer politics of criticising the working man for having the audacity to protest. I mean imagine having the audacity to not take the flags you have bought with your own money in protest at price increases at a time of record commercial revenues partly created by the fan base.

What next people having the flaming cheek to withdraw their labour in order to earn a decent living.   

Pure hysteria.

How you can read all that rubbish into my post is beyond me.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14884 on: April 12, 2024, 10:53:50 pm »
Can we not discuss this in a civilised way? Why does every thread end up with Reds calling other Reds names?  :o
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14885 on: April 12, 2024, 11:07:16 pm »
Pure hysteria.

How you can read all that rubbish into my post is beyond me.

It isn't the post it is your post history.

Just admit it SOS are just way far too left for your sensibilities. It says everything that you have taken the side of capitalists over socialists. Maybe you can regale us with your tales of how Liverpool dockers were the first to strike but the last to pay their union dues.

or this gem.

I was very active in the political struggle to save the pits. Two of my cousins worked in the industry, one as a collier, one as a trainee mining engineer. Like many thousands of others I helped picket power stations, collected food, and shook tins for the miners. It could be a happy experience doing this, it could be a demoralising one - a lot depended where you were. University towns were great. But the worst experience I had - by some measure - was shaking tins outside Wembley stadium for the Liverpool v Everton Charity shield game in the summer of 1984. Everyone knew it might be hard to raise a lot of money there. This was the period of the 'Giro Cup Finals' after all. Most folk were broke themselves. But it was the abuse that was so demoralising. I can still see one bloke, obviously tanked up, and in red I'm afraid, yelling in my girlfriend's face "Support the Miners? Yeah, I support them. On the end of a fucking rope." Behind him were his jeering mates. It was a minority of course, and no more representative of the city of Liverpool than the Football Lads Alliance are of England fans this weekend. But it's not something you forget in a hurry. There didn't seem to be much solidarity present that afternoon.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14886 on: April 12, 2024, 11:10:08 pm »
What on earth has this got to do with the atmosphere at Anfield?
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14887 on: April 12, 2024, 11:14:16 pm »
What on earth has this got to do with the atmosphere at Anfield?


Quite simply for me certain posters are point scoring against SOS because of their political leanings. A good example would be Yorky reinforcing horrible stereotypes of Liverpool with language like 'Giro finals'
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14888 on: April 12, 2024, 11:14:48 pm »
What on earth has this got to do with the atmosphere at Anfield?


The owners being greedy bastards? Quite alot, it seems!

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14889 on: April 12, 2024, 11:15:51 pm »
Quite simply for me certain posters are point scoring against SOS because of their political leanings. A good example would be Yorky reinforcing horrible stereotypes of Liverpool with language like 'Giro finals'

It's tedious. 
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14890 on: April 12, 2024, 11:16:39 pm »
Quite simply for me certain posters are point scoring against SOS because of their political leanings. A good example would be Yorky reinforcing horrible stereotypes of Liverpool with language like 'Giro finals'

It was actually a Liverpool banner at the time. The League Cup Final v Everton I think.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14891 on: April 12, 2024, 11:16:42 pm »
The owners being greedy bastards? Quite alot, it seems!

Not talking about that - I'm referring to the constant bickering in here.  It's tedious.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14892 on: April 12, 2024, 11:17:05 pm »
Quite simply for me certain posters are point scoring against SOS because of their political leanings. A good example would be Yorky reinforcing horrible stereotypes of Liverpool with language like 'Giro finals'

His political leanings would be the antithesis of most rational, humane people, let's be honest.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14893 on: April 12, 2024, 11:25:21 pm »
I wonder if they raise it to 3% will all the biffs with scarves stop wearing them, as well?

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14894 on: April 12, 2024, 11:35:28 pm »
It was actually a Liverpool banner at the time. The League Cup Final v Everton I think.

So what it was a defence mechanism.

"We also used to sing thank you very much for paying my giro" It didn't mean we were all on the dole. It was a retort to offensive hateful chanting.

Labeling it the giro finals to score a point and then coming out with a cock and bull story about being abused for rattling a tin is not on. Those of us who were around at the time remember constant collections at the game and around the pubs before games for the e miners. Merseyside had it's own mines. Ironically one of Liverpool's great institutions is the flying picket. I wonder what that was about.

We know your opinion though. The far left people like SOS are just as bad as the far right according to you. SOS are far too likely to support Corbyn and not Starmer for your liking. A so-called socialist complaining about working-class people protesting about ticket price increases is a joke.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14895 on: April 12, 2024, 11:38:31 pm »
A so-called socialist complaining about working-class people protesting about ticket price increases is a joke.

I didn't.

You're unhealthily obsessed with me for some reason. But carry on and sidetrack yet another thread. 
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14896 on: April 12, 2024, 11:48:25 pm »
I didn't.

You're unhealthily obsessed with me for some reason. But carry on and sidetrack yet another thread. 

You complained that the protest intentionally lowered the temperature.


And you can't have it both ways. You can't say that the flags are important and their withdrawal is a big statement and that the effect of the flags on the whole occasion is negligible or non-existent. Last night the temperature in the stadium was lowered right from the start. That was surely the intention of those who organised the protest. Otherwise why do it?

For me the fans who pay for the flags out of their own money and support the club home and away have the right to protest against price increases during a cost of living crisis. To blame the fans who withdrew their flags to protest is wrong. Do you agree with that?
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14897 on: April 12, 2024, 11:52:14 pm »

I’ve kept dialogue quite objective with my thoughts about the protest and its connection with our performance - it was never *the* reason we performed poorly.

What’s objective about this?

Said that before the game kicked off - does anyone think the owners give a shit if we bring flags or not. In a massive game, just get the fuck behind the team, wholly. It was a ridiculous decision, that sets a negative tone that the team and staff that went out tonight had fuck all to do with. Whomever drove this got it wrong and needs to give their head a wobble.

And then go on a massive rant with personal insults.

Go on your holiday and come back feeling better.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14898 on: April 12, 2024, 11:57:43 pm »
What’s objective about this?

And then go on a massive rant with personal insults.

Go on your holiday and come back feeling better.

Do you struggle to scroll above and read - genuine question mate, because if you did - you’d recognise my position quite clearly.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14899 on: April 13, 2024, 12:06:27 am »
Do you struggle to scroll above and read - genuine question mate, because if you did - you’d recognise my position quite clearly.
I read a long, insulting rant that sounded like you’d lost the plot. This after you’d said, “Find points of agreement rather than exploiting points of difference”. This thread has gone off on one after a bad defeat where people blamed a supporters group. Probably needs taking out the back and putting down for a bit for its own good.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14900 on: April 13, 2024, 12:11:34 am »
Have any of you answered?? Nah, just dickheads criticising those who make a bigger effort/impact than any of you ever will!

I'd probably get knocked out if I draped my flag over everyone in the Upper Kemlyn


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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14901 on: April 13, 2024, 12:14:02 am »
I read a long, insulting rant that sounded like you’d lost the plot. This after you’d said, “Find points of agreement rather than exploiting points of difference”. This thread has gone off on one after a bad defeat where people blamed a supporters group. Probably needs taking out the back and putting down for a bit for its own good.

Well, had you bothered to read my posts you’d wholly understand I firmly support the purpose of why the protest was taken…. I was not shy in forth coming about my thoughts on the clubs ‘business people’ making shite decisions circumventing the fan groups advisory panel prior when delivering these shit price rises.

In fact I advocated an alternative price reduction.

I just wasn’t supportive of the method and timing of the protest. It almost screamed a classical Tory divide and conquer tactic, in the heart beat of our run in to win some awesome trophies for Jurgen to see him off.

My emotional reaction was strong - because I was accused of being a fucking unionist flag shagger - just because I didn’t agree with that persons opinion.





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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14902 on: April 13, 2024, 12:20:05 am »
I'd probably get knocked out if I draped my flag over everyone in the Upper Kemlyn

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14903 on: April 13, 2024, 03:26:50 am »
I'd probably get knocked out if I draped my flag over everyone in the Upper Kemlyn




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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14904 on: April 13, 2024, 08:04:07 am »
It isn't the post it is your post history.

Just admit it SOS are just way far too left for your sensibilities. It says everything that you have taken the side of capitalists over socialists. Maybe you can regale us with your tales of how Liverpool dockers were the first to strike but the last to pay their union dues.

or this gem.

I was very active in the political struggle to save the pits. Two of my cousins worked in the industry, one as a collier, one as a trainee mining engineer. Like many thousands of others I helped picket power stations, collected food, and shook tins for the miners. It could be a happy experience doing this, it could be a demoralising one - a lot depended where you were. University towns were great. But the worst experience I had - by some measure - was shaking tins outside Wembley stadium for the Liverpool v Everton Charity shield game in the summer of 1984. Everyone knew it might be hard to raise a lot of money there. This was the period of the 'Giro Cup Finals' after all. Most folk were broke themselves. But it was the abuse that was so demoralising. I can still see one bloke, obviously tanked up, and in red I'm afraid, yelling in my girlfriend's face "Support the Miners? Yeah, I support them. On the end of a fucking rope." Behind him were his jeering mates. It was a minority of course, and no more representative of the city of Liverpool than the Football Lads Alliance are of England fans this weekend. But it's not something you forget in a hurry. There didn't seem to be much solidarity present that afternoon.

I was at that match with my Dad who was an Everton fan. He put a wad of notes into the miners white buckets outside lime street and loads were donating. I was on the train with the reds and the blues going down, and I well remember the support for the miners it’s my abiding memory of the strike. Anyone making that rope comment would have been knocked out by the other lads you lying bastard Yorkie. It won’t have been Scousers if it was anyone at all. Worst post I have ever seen on here and an insult to the people of this city who stood shoulder to shoulder with the miners and anyone else who was fighting Thatcher.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14905 on: April 13, 2024, 09:50:36 am »
I’m baffled at the blame that’s being levelled at the fans for the lack of atmosphere against Atlanta. If the flags are so very important in raising the atmosphere (and they are!) then maybe supporters shouldn’t be taken for granted with price increases that in the grand scheme of things won’t result in any substantial increase of revenue for the club. It’s incredibly rich to use the flags, the atmosphere, the fans as a marketing tool when it suits and then doing your best to price people out. I’m even more baffled at the defence force for the club. Left wing my arse.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14906 on: April 13, 2024, 10:09:13 am »
I’m baffled at the blame that’s being levelled at the fans for the lack of atmosphere against Atlanta. If the flags are so very important in raising the atmosphere (and they are!) then maybe supporters shouldn’t be taken for granted with price increases that in the grand scheme of things won’t result in any substantial increase of revenue for the club. It’s incredibly rich to use the flags, the atmosphere, the fans as a marketing tool when it suits and then doing your best to price people out. I’m even more baffled at the defence force for the club. Left wing my arse.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14907 on: April 13, 2024, 10:14:06 am »
I’m baffled at the blame that’s being levelled at the fans for the lack of atmosphere against Atlanta. If the flags are so very important in raising the atmosphere (and they are!) then maybe supporters shouldn’t be taken for granted with price increases that in the grand scheme of things won’t result in any substantial increase of revenue for the club. It’s incredibly rich to use the flags, the atmosphere, the fans as a marketing tool when it suits and then doing your best to price people out. I’m even more baffled at the defence force for the club. Left wing my arse.

"I’m even more baffled at the defence force for the club"

What does that mean? If you are saying there are people on here 'sticking up for the price rises' then can you kindly post those posts because I must have missed them..?
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14908 on: April 13, 2024, 10:25:00 am »
Time to start paying at the gate again!!!

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14909 on: April 13, 2024, 10:31:27 am »
You complained that the protest intentionally lowered the temperature.

I didn't complain at all.

To blame the fans who withdrew their flags to protest is wrong. Do you agree with that?

No, I'm fine with the protest. But I didn't blame the fans for protesting in the first place.

You've made everything up, as you usually do. And you've succeeded in riling up one or two fellow travellers, as you also like to do.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14910 on: April 13, 2024, 10:33:28 am »
Fucking horrendous. I was at the back of 304, I've never seen so many people not know where their seat is when a lot of seats up there should be auto cup seats that realistically should have been filled 3-4 times already that season. I don't even blame those people, it seemed obvious that a lot of people who are 'regulars' in our area at least, had sold their ticket on for that match and with it being the first leg, assumed simply that we'd qualify and they could enjoy the second leg of the semi final. Of our own 10, only 5 of us were there, so I'm not even attacking anyone personally, it permeated in our group too. It was spare central, for a fucking European Quarter Final. I was joining in with whatever I could, which I find embarrassing sometimes when my accent is very much not Liverpudlian but it is what it is. I left knowing I had little to no voice but it was infuriating trying to get something to take off from 306 on our side, and looking to my left and people just staring at the pitch. I wondered if they were mute, but then we'd miss a chance and they'd all make noise. I mean it's anecdotal and only in our area, but I felt like there were loads of people there to experience the Kop and a European night rather than contribute to it. I mean "Liverpool" isn't difficult to sing if you don't know the words to the others.

I think the complacency was happening from the line up, to the stands. I'm not sure the flags had an impact but they do help set the tone for the atmosphere from the very beginning, but needless to say I back the protest and put back bringing out a big banner of mine with poles in made for the run in that I needed to get fire treated ahead of Atalanta which may not see the Kop now till next season. Come full circle really under Klopp. I remember how Dortmund and Villarreal meant everything. Admittedly the Dortmund game was a second leg, but still. We felt like we just needed to turn up and that's not how it works.

Sunday really important now. Fail to win there and the end of Klopp really has just imploded.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14911 on: April 13, 2024, 10:47:08 am »
Fucking horrendous. I was at the back of 304, I've never seen so many people not know where their seat is when a lot of seats up there should be auto cup seats that realistically should have been filled 3-4 times already that season. I don't even blame those people, it seemed obvious that a lot of people who are 'regulars' in our area at least, had sold their ticket on for that match and with it being the first leg, assumed simply that we'd qualify and they could enjoy the second leg of the semi final. Of our own 10, only 5 of us were there, so I'm not even attacking anyone personally, it permeated in our group too. It was spare central, for a fucking European Quarter Final. I was joining in with whatever I could, which I find embarrassing sometimes when my accent is very much not Liverpudlian but it is what it is. I left knowing I had little to no voice but it was infuriating trying to get something to take off from 306 on our side, and looking to my left and people just staring at the pitch. I wondered if they were mute, but then we'd miss a chance and they'd all make noise. I mean it's anecdotal and only in our area, but I felt like there were loads of people there to experience the Kop and a European night rather than contribute to it. I mean "Liverpool" isn't difficult to sing if you don't know the words to the others.

I think the complacency was happening from the line up, to the stands. I'm not sure the flags had an impact but they do help set the tone for the atmosphere from the very beginning, but needless to say I back the protest and put back bringing out a big banner of mine with poles in made for the run in that I needed to get fire treated ahead of Atalanta which may not see the Kop now till next season. Come full circle really under Klopp. I remember how Dortmund and Villarreal meant everything. Admittedly the Dortmund game was a second leg, but still. We felt like we just needed to turn up and that's not how it works.

Sunday really important now. Fail to win there and the end of Klopp really has just imploded.


It has been strange with the Auto Ticket Scheme. Where my ST is, there used to be probably 90% STs.

Around me now in match games, I'd say that was maybe 60-70% - many have gone.

In the League Cup ACS was probably around 30% - The FA Cup 10% and The Europa League 5%


That seems to go against the grain (Where I sit anyway) that it's the fault of the Season Tickets that there is no atmosphere as the Cups really seem to have fallen off a cliff where STs are concerned - very possibly due to the cost of living crisis - but many people aren't going to/can't afford the tickets.

To be fair to some of the Cup peeps around me, they had a go at singing and making atmosphere, but where I am if you sing or shout (I shout quite a lot and sing a bit) - you get glared at/laughed at - as if shouting or singing or getting behind your team was some kind of wacky thing.


It does seem the club has got the ticket prices wrong - as people have said, it's not the match going fans that bring the money in - and further, the TV companies and the Club profit from a boistrous excited and exciting Anfield - f you price everyday people out and it affects the atmosphere for a few quid they could find down the back of the sofa and the atmosphere is muted/shite - then who actually wins? Does the Club win if it affects the players? Do the fans win if they are pissed off that they are getting taken advantage of? Do the media win if it's a boring, flat game on the telly?

I go to Germany to watch Leverkusen once in a while with our friends we met there and it's very, very cheap. You can stand throughout and you are in a section that's caged off - but with an entrance that you can only go in with the right ticket that's twice as big as it needs to be - so plenty of room - you can take ale in and the experience is great.

Make football available for all - get more local kids in - another Boys Pen - give locals a discount if you live within x miles - it's all very well having OOTs and they are very, very welcome - but the club is in Liverpool and some appreciation of the locals might be a good move for everyone. They could even make the tickets free from what I've seen of the figures - but would that then mean that touting gets worse - people flogging free tickets for wonga and not bothering to go 'because it's free and I can't be arsed with this game..'

So.. It seems it needs to be a balancing act and SoS seem best placed to help organise that. The thing that I do find a bit annoying is that the club don't seem to have engaged with the supporter groups which I find a bit shite.


I wasn't happy about the idea of any protests with such a big game though because I was worried pre-game that it would batter the atmosphere and affect the players because we've been fairly shite for a few games now. The atmosphere was shite. The fans at the game were shite. The team was shite. Atalanta and their fans were great.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14912 on: April 13, 2024, 11:11:06 am »
"I’m even more baffled at the defence force for the club"

What does that mean? If you are saying there are people on here 'sticking up for the price rises' then can you kindly post those posts because I must have missed them..?

Not on here mate, but go read SOS' FaceBook page and see some of the comments

"Taking it out on the team , we're fighting for the title and your wanting to dull the famous atmosphere"

"Ridiculous idea we have a few weeks left of the season we need everything in our power to get behind the team if you don't want to pay the increase don't feckin pay it. Do you really think by not having flags the clubs going to say oh no let's forget it. Everything in life is going up pkt of chocolate still gone up 65% but we still pay it."

"I have to disagree with this way of protesting against price rises… surely we should be concentrating on the games and atmosphere in Anfield and show the players the support… why should us and them be punished with a bland looking Kop for £1 a game increase next season 🤷🏼‍♀️ surely there’s another way"

"We must be the only fans that protest over ticket prices then moan about not enough money being spent on buying players. You can't have it all."

"The small increase is needed and throwing your toys out of the pram because the club didn't ask your permission is silly IMO"


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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14913 on: April 13, 2024, 12:10:29 pm »
Not on here mate, but go read SOS' FaceBook page and see some of the comments

"Taking it out on the team , we're fighting for the title and your wanting to dull the famous atmosphere"

"Ridiculous idea we have a few weeks left of the season we need everything in our power to get behind the team if you don't want to pay the increase don't feckin pay it. Do you really think by not having flags the clubs going to say oh no let's forget it. Everything in life is going up pkt of chocolate still gone up 65% but we still pay it."

"I have to disagree with this way of protesting against price rises… surely we should be concentrating on the games and atmosphere in Anfield and show the players the support… why should us and them be punished with a bland looking Kop for £1 a game increase next season 🤷🏼‍♀️ surely there’s another way"

"We must be the only fans that protest over ticket prices then moan about not enough money being spent on buying players. You can't have it all."

"The small increase is needed and throwing your toys out of the pram because the club didn't ask your permission is silly IMO"


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Ok - but people keep posting stuff in here that makes it look (to me) like they are talking about here.

Nothing RAWK or us posters in here can do about the entire interweb. Isn't it more useful to address what's being said on the forum that you're posting on?

It's like me saying "I went onto Tory Central Board and it's outrageous that TopTorySuperTories872 said that Socialism is shite. I can't believe all the posters having a go at Socialism.."

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14914 on: April 13, 2024, 12:25:32 pm »
"I’m even more baffled at the defence force for the club"

What does that mean? If you are saying there are people on here 'sticking up for the price rises' then can you kindly post those posts because I must have missed them..?

Well done to those protesting with no flags over a 2% ticket price increase.  ::)


Hate this argument. 2% increase is absolutely nothing. It's a business, not a charity.

Been plenty of posts defending it or making a snide little comment implying that 2% is nothing. There's 2 for example.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14915 on: April 13, 2024, 12:31:32 pm »
Just putting it out there - have the club not put little or no increase on ticket prices for the last 5-ish years?

There was a protest last week at the mancs in the coach park after, I believe( we drove) - no flags in the ground, we still played shit for the second half. Just saying like.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14916 on: April 13, 2024, 12:39:58 pm »
Been plenty of posts defending it or making a snide little comment implying that 2% is nothing. There's 2 for example.

Hardly Tory those quotes are they?

Lone Star Red is an American I believe, so Americans generally (Even the Democrats) are further right than the average Socialist. Can we 'judge' people from other countries on their Social stance?

Not sure where Butterstoch is.

I don't think, personally, that 2% is too outrageous given the price freezes over the years, but I can also see the arguments for keeping the prices the same (See my post above)

This is a forum isn't it? Isn't it here to chat about stuff, shoot the shit, discuss things and argue against other opinions?

I personally can afford that 2% and I think it's OK. Some other people might be able to afford it, but are outraged, some people might dream of one day being able to afford to come to Anfield for a game.

Calling people Tory at the drop of a hat because they have a differing opinion seems a bit bollocks to me. You see it on the Politics board as well - you'll have someone say that they have voted Labour all their life, but they think that Corbyn is a c*nt and then they get accused of being a Tory, despite never voting for them in their lives.

It's like a stock, childish insult when people don't seem to be bright enough to argue their case. I'm not that bright, but at least I'm happy to argue my position. That's what I feel a forum is for - you know, discussion about shit. It doesn't matter what I or anyone else posts on this board - it's all opinion and debate.
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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14917 on: April 13, 2024, 01:08:00 pm »
Ok - but people keep posting stuff in here that makes it look (to me) like they are talking about here.

Nothing RAWK or us posters in here can do about the entire interweb. Isn't it more useful to address what's being said on the forum that you're posting on?

It's like me saying "I went onto Tory Central Board and it's outrageous that TopTorySuperTories872 said that Socialism is shite. I can't believe all the posters having a go at Socialism.."

:D

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14918 on: April 13, 2024, 01:09:11 pm »
Hardly Tory those quotes are they?

Lone Star Red is an American I believe, so Americans generally (Even the Democrats) are further right than the average Socialist. Can we 'judge' people from other countries on their Social stance?

Not sure where Butterstoch is.

I don't think, personally, that 2% is too outrageous given the price freezes over the years, but I can also see the arguments for keeping the prices the same (See my post above)

This is a forum isn't it? Isn't it here to chat about stuff, shoot the shit, discuss things and argue against other opinions?

I personally can afford that 2% and I think it's OK. Some other people might be able to afford it, but are outraged, some people might dream of one day being able to afford to come to Anfield for a game.

Calling people Tory at the drop of a hat because they have a differing opinion seems a bit bollocks to me. You see it on the Politics board as well - you'll have someone say that they have voted Labour all their life, but they think that Corbyn is a c*nt and then they get accused of being a Tory, despite never voting for them in their lives.

It's like a stock, childish insult when people don't seem to be bright enough to argue their case. I'm not that bright, but at least I'm happy to argue my position. That's what I feel a forum is for - you know, discussion about shit. It doesn't matter what I or anyone else posts on this board - it's all opinion and debate.

Andy, you don't discuss anything, you rant and rave and seek attention.

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Re: Atmosphere at Anfield
« Reply #14919 on: April 13, 2024, 01:27:09 pm »
Andy, you don't discuss anything, you rant and rave and seek attention.

Look, I'm sorry, but Lost in Translation is completely shite.
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