Topic: EL: Liv 0 vs 3 Atal (1st leg) Scamacca 39’ 59’ Pastalic c83’

[Draex]

This is what I was afraid off - fatigue finally catch up to our decimated squad. As they say, this is half time and now that we have people coming back and hopefully not rusty, we can turn this around.

This is just not true, City/Arsenal's core team have played much more minutes than ours, and they are going toe to toe in the league and champions.

No excuses, we just fucked it.

[Son of Spion]

It's easy at times to go overboard in the halftime threads, but the criticism in there tonight was fully deserved. That was one of the worst, laziest, casual, arrogant, complacent, disgraceful performances I've ever had the displeasure to witness from a Liverpool side. We were lucky to only lose 0-3.

Atalanta fully deserved the win, but bloody hell, they aren't Real Madrid. Of course, it's been coming for a while. We've been giving our opposition copious amounts of encouragement for some time now. No way were these looking the gift horse in the mouth.

I genuinely don't blame anyone for venting tonight. We praise the team when they play well. We stick by them when they lose but show guts and fight, but tonight fully deserves to be called out for what it is. Then, we move on...

[RedDeadRejection]

Do you think fans should keep being fleeced by the club?

Already said I agree with the protest mate. Now answer my question

[smicer07]

Anyone sat on their arse watching on their sofa shouldn't be commentating on ticket prices or the atmosphere.

[MonsLibpool]

0-3 flattered us.

We-ve been poor for a while. It's get overlooked when we win but we came up against a team that exploited our weaknesses well.

[JP!]

Yeah this leggy stuff is total horseshit.

Too many people want to keep protecting the players at all costs. They were shit to a man. It's fine to say so.

[S]

And then we play our second string against Palace, lose or draw and everyone is moaning "why did he start the first team against Atalanta?"

Players aren't robots, they need rest and rotating. It's incredible to see some people still don't get this.

This was a more important game than Palace.

[Legs]

This pundit blaming Gomez for 3rd goal can fuck off blame that casual fucker who came on in midfield he was terrible which he pretty has been for a while now

[GinKop]

Has it though?

We haven't lost at Anfield all season.

I agree it was on the cards - we have consistently given opposition teams far too many chances in games, even in ones at Anfield.

There was going to be a game where the opposition took most of their chances and we had our usual poor finishing in front of goal. Today was that combination.

Never thought it would be Atalanta to do it though.

[Keith Lard]

Do people really not think the flags on the Kop have no effect on our players and opposition players? Seriously?

Blame the owners for that. Utterly unnecessary 2% ticket price increase. You can see the effect of a flat Anfield on the team. Supporters deserve ticket price cuts, not increases.

[Nick110581]

This was a more important game than Palace.

Both are equally important unless you have given up on the PL.

[paisley1977]

You have to take a bow Atalanta out played us and out fought us. There manager produced a master class well done.
So not taking anything away from them, but. We produced our worst performance of this season. I don't think apart from our Captain nobody shone. So slow in the build up wrong decisions all over the park. Even Caoimhin who made two outstanding saves but his overall game was poor, his distribution so slow. You could have taken 5 or 6 of our lot off first half.
I thought we had gone back to last season.

[danm77]

It all started with the lineup. If we’re taking this competition seriously, then play your best team from the start. If this was a Champions League QF we wouldn’t have rested so many players.

[DonkeyWan]

Missed the game, what went wrong?

[gemofabird]

Anyone sat on their arse watching on their sofa shouldn't be commentating on ticket prices or the atmosphere.

Really?

[DangerScouse]

Yeah this leggy stuff is total horseshit.

Too many people want to keep protecting the players at all costs. They were shit to a man. It's fine to say so.

It's certainly more plausible than a lack of flags to be fair!

[exiledintheUSA]

Missed the game, what went wrong?

We kicked-off.

[Yorkykopite]

That was a shock. Atalanta played a canny game, not exactly pressing us but using a man-marking system and arriving at speed to close down the man on the ball. They didn't even bother closing down the passing lanes, preferring to follow the man every time. It was  very effective. It looked like we were bamboozled. Do they always play like this? If so, what the hell went wrong with our preparation?

You know things are bad when even Mac Allister looks poor. And yet he was one of the better ones. Endo had miserable night. He clearly prefers a conventional press. Poor old Konate couldn't control the ball for the life in him and Joe Gomez played his worst game since his mental collapse against Napoli. Szoboszlai was sloppy, as he has been on numerous occasions since coming back from injury. The European campaign's effectively over now. What a pity to turn in such a limp performance in Jurgen's last European night at Anfield.

The biggest question is now, how will it affect our league campaign? I imagine there'll be a lot of anger in the dressing room right now. Most of it from Klopp. We probably won't play - Bergamo aside - such an organised team again this season. Can we use this as fuel for what remains?

My own preference is for Darwin to take a back seat. I know the stats say he's pretty good but he often looks a mess in front of goal. If his general play was excellent, rather than merely OK, we could overlook that. But his profligacy is costing us dear and outside the box he's no Bobby Firmino is he? We need to get Jota up to speed as quickly as possible.

Let's hope Trent is ready to go next week too. Connor Bradley at right back, and Trent in midfield for me now. Macca back at 6. Quansah to partner Virg at the back. Elliott didn't have a good game, but he didn't have a bad one either so I'd also stick with him. Jones, I can forgive. Awful, but awfully rusty too.

[N0rnIr0nRed]

Season is unfolding, seem to be getting more and more lethargic by the game at the moment.

Kelleher only one who looked interested tonight, not sure why Harvey came off because he looked lively.

[Tonyh8su]

Atmosphere was fucking shocking as well. Was Jurgen's last night under the lights in Europe the night to really protest over 2%?

[Kalito]

Atalanta were boss. Deserved winners.

Moment Robbo went on his one man press, I had flashbacks of the European Cup Final 2 years back ...

We could easily score 3 goals over there next week but my God we've got to stop giving gifts away ...

On to Palace now.

[gemofabird]

This pundit blaming Gomez for 3rd goal can fuck off blame that casual fucker who came on in midfield he was terrible which he pretty has been for a while now

Agree. Van Dijk looked like he was drunk for the 3rd

[smicer07]

Really?

Yes because you're not paying for tickets and you're not part of the atmosphere. So why should you comment about it and use it as an excuse for a bad result?

[WorldChampions]

This pundit blaming Gomez for 3rd goal can fuck off blame that casual fucker who came on in midfield he was terrible which he pretty has been for a while now

Gomez deserves criticism for that game. He played like he'd just come out the pub.

[newterp]

It's easy at times to go overboard in the halftime threads, but the criticism in there tonight was fully deserved. That was one of the worst, laziest, casual, arrogant, complacent, disgraceful performances I've ever had the displeasure to witness from a Liverpool side. We were lucky to only lose 0-3.

Atalanta fully deserved the win, but bloody hell, they aren't Real Madrid. Of course, it's been coming for a while. We've been giving our opposition copious amounts of encouragement for some time now. No way we're these looking the gift horse in the mouth.

I genuinely don't blame anyone for venting tonight. We praise the team when they play well. We stick by them when they lose but show guts and fight, but tonight fully deserves to be called out for what it is. Then, we move on...

It was more confusing that after halftime we didn't really look any better than before.

[RedDeadRejection]

Blame the owners for that. Utterly unnecessary 2% ticket price increase. You can see the effect of a flat Anfield on the team. Supporters deserve ticket price cuts, not increases.

No argument here. I agree. But it will have a psychological effect all the same. That's my point.

[Legs]

This is just not true, City/Arsenal's core team have played much more minutes than ours, and they are going toe to toe in the league and champions.

No excuses, we just fucked it.

I think that is true difference is how many of their core players have had injuries though I mean it’s clear Salah is still good but slightly off it since AFCON as an example.

Konate was all over the place tonight too it usually takes him a few games to get back in the groove and you don’t have two games in the PL especially now.

You are of course right we deserved to get beat by more tonight though.

[Bucko - Dubai]

From quadruple to just the Carabou within a month.

Devastating how the season is petering out.

Can't see how Klopp picks the players up after the last few weeks. Just hope he gets the send off he deserves from the fans.

[buttersstotch]

Do you think fans should keep being fleeced by the club?

Hate this argument. 2% increase is absolutely nothing. It's a business, not a charity. Bet everyone protesting an increase is upset that it supports salary increases for staff across the club too? 2% is entirely reasonable. I'm all for a protest, but pick the right battles rather than every battle.

[Knight]

Surely our players have been overplayed considering we have had the most injuries.

They haven't been though, according to the stat posted on here. lots of them have been injured so that's helped obviously in the sense that plant haven't been playing minutes. And the kids have stepped up and taken some minutes.

[Tonyh8su]

Anyone sat on their arse watching on their sofa shouldn't be commentating on ticket prices or the atmosphere.

Really? Cause I'm on my sofa tonight due to work but I got my bill this morning for next season's ST...

[Father Ted]

Missed the game, what went wrong?

Everything.

[art03]

This is just not true, City/Arsenal's core team have played much more minutes than ours, and they are going toe to toe in the league and champions.

No excuses, we just fucked it.

You have the stats for that? Not saying you are wrong but I don't follow their line up that closely. Can't really compare to City since even their 2nd, 3rd choice would walk into most teams.

[Snail]

Do people really not think the flags on the Kop have no effect on our players and opposition players? Seriously?

It’s almost as if match-going supporters are incredibly important and should be treated with respect and fairness by our owners, rather than fleeced at every opportunity.

[Lynndenberries]

Season is unfolding, seem to be getting more and more lethargic by the game at the moment.

Kelleher only one who looked interested tonight, not sure why Harvey came off because he looked lively.

Because he’s not a forward and has a tendency to get bullied in midfield.

[shook]

Yeah this leggy stuff is total horseshit.

Too many people want to keep protecting the players at all costs. They were shit to a man. It's fine to say so.

Certainly, but also its finally catching up that we constantly are playing with at least 3-4 second choice players. For instance, Kelleher, Quansah, Gomez (At fullback), Bradley, Endo (instead of Macallister when we were dominating), and even one of the forwards for Jota. It's been like this for weeks and we could certainly use the entire first choice team starting, including an in-rhythm Curtis Jones.

[lfcdave]

Fucking abysmal from the players on the pitch but let’s keep the protests outside the ground, to say it didn’t make a difference is simply untrue. 

[RedDeadRejection]

Nah, how about you fuck off you c*nt, and stop blaming the result on fans for protesting ticket price increases like an absolute bellend

Everything ok at home mate?

[robertobaggio37]

Already said I agree with the protest mate. Now answer my question

It's got absolutely 0 to do with the flags.

[Anthony]

Ah well, so much for put the tie to bed and play the kids next week...

We have another match to turn this around and surely we can't play that badly again. Running commentary throughout the match was that Atalanta were short of pace (although looking at the third goal I'm not sure they were referring to the correct team...) so it's got to be Robbo and Trent/Conor in the second leg.

Ultimately, retrieving three goals against an Italian Side in front of their own Supporters may be too much of a stretch but we've done it before and we owe it to Jurgen to at least try.