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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #680 on: May 13, 2024, 08:18:25 am »

Spurs recent success against City has been achieved by parking the bus and countering in numbers. Under Ange they try to play out and push forward (“it’s who we are, mate”) which is suicide against City. Also Spurs fans won’t have their heart in it.

It’s a more dangerous game than their last game but City are playing jeopardy free boring football now. Arsenal have been outstanding this season but they’re about to learn what it’s like to be cheated with rival fans accusing them of bottling it despite winning 17 of 19 in the second half.

Despite all that I’d rather City won as I think the punishment City will get will be lessened if they don’t win this year. A fourth title in a row will require real action to be taken.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #681 on: May 13, 2024, 08:43:24 am »
Despite all that I’d rather City won as I think the punishment City will get will be lessened if they don’t win this year. A fourth title in a row will require real action to be taken.

Won't make any difference.
Their punishment will have nothing, and I really mean nothing, to do with football.
It will be measured and delivered to ward off the pressure for strong government regulators while making least impact to the PL brand.
Competitiveness on the pitch, them dominating the league - will have preciselly zero impact on the verdict if they are found guilty.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #682 on: May 13, 2024, 08:46:56 am »
Spurs recent success against City has been achieved by parking the bus and countering in numbers. Under Ange they try to play out and push forward (“it’s who we are, mate”) which is suicide against City. Also Spurs fans won’t have their heart in it.

It’s a more dangerous game than their last game but City are playing jeopardy free boring football now. Arsenal have been outstanding this season but they’re about to learn what it’s like to be cheated with rival fans accusing them of bottling it despite winning 17 of 19 in the second half.

Despite all that I’d rather City won as I think the punishment City will get will be lessened if they don’t win this year. A fourth title in a row will require real action to be taken.

That’s exactly why watching City is such a drag.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #683 on: May 13, 2024, 08:51:03 am »
i think city will get a 10 point deduction he it is all said  & done & a huge fine
they wont get titles taken but they will always been tainted

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #684 on: May 13, 2024, 09:02:31 am »
i think city will get a 10 point deduction he it is all said  & done & a huge fine
they wont get titles taken but they will always been tainted

Itll good if they get it this week!!

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #685 on: May 13, 2024, 09:06:49 am »
City win against Tottenham and the title race is all but done.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #686 on: May 13, 2024, 09:08:31 am »
City win against Tottenham and the title race is all but done.
Spurs win against City and the title race is all but done
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #687 on: May 13, 2024, 09:13:20 am »
Come on you Spurs !

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #688 on: May 13, 2024, 09:25:35 am »
You mean come on you Liverpool and give Spurs something to meekly fight for? 😁

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #689 on: May 13, 2024, 09:35:05 am »
You mean come on you Liverpool and give Spurs something to meekly fight for? 😁

100% . Must win game tonight

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #690 on: May 13, 2024, 09:43:25 am »
100% . Must win game tonight

For Villa it is, yes. Liverpool have secured 3rd with nothing else to play for.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #691 on: May 13, 2024, 09:43:32 am »
i think city will get a 10 point deduction he it is all said  & done & a huge fine
they wont get titles taken but they will always been tainted

Based on?
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #692 on: May 13, 2024, 09:45:02 am »
For Villa it is, yes. Liverpool have secured 3rd with nothing else to play for.

Do it for Klopp

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #694 on: May 13, 2024, 10:14:15 am »
Won't make any difference.
Their punishment will have nothing, and I really mean nothing, to do with football.
It will be measured and delivered to ward off the pressure for strong government regulators while making least impact to the PL brand.
Competitiveness on the pitch, them dominating the league - will have preciselly zero impact on the verdict if they are found guilty.

You're probably right but optics do come into it. With Everton getting 8 pts for small accidental overspends, there really isn't an amount of points that would do justice to industrial scale, deliberate subversion of the FFP rules. I have little faith that they will be stripped but we can hope.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #695 on: May 13, 2024, 07:06:39 pm »
I meant we should have won it in those seasons but were cheated out of them by City, whereas I accept this season we've not been good enough. I don't like watching them and some of their antics but Arsenal this season would be deserving winners and could count themselves unfortunate if they do fall just short to the cheats.

Arsenal have only dropped 5 points since new years eve and were top at Christmas, yet it's still out their hands. Obviously top now but comes down to City's game in hand.

Except this bit in bold isn't really the case is it?  Between 81/82 season and Abu Dhabi 115ers getting taken over 84 points (if we win the next two) would have been enough to win the title 12 or 13 times (would have been joint top on points 92/93 season).

Arsenal absolutely deserve to win it this season and their 89 points would have been enough to win the title in 17 seasons over the same period.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #696 on: May 13, 2024, 07:07:21 pm »
Come on redmen !

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #697 on: May 13, 2024, 07:17:26 pm »
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #698 on: May 13, 2024, 07:30:34 pm »
Come on redmen !

Honestly think tonight’s result will have no bearing on tomorrow’s game. I don’t think CL qualification is enough incentive for Spurs!

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #699 on: May 14, 2024, 06:22:47 pm »
If you ever feel shit about us just remember there are teams out their like Everton and Spurs who’s highlight of the season revolves around their rivals failing or sneaking a win off them

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #700 on: May 14, 2024, 06:32:11 pm »
Except this bit in bold isn't really the case is it?  Between 81/82 season and Abu Dhabi 115ers getting taken over 84 points (if we win the next two) would have been enough to win the title 12 or 13 times (would have been joint top on points 92/93 season).

Yes, but it's different eras. Manchester United in 2017/18 had points totals that would have won plenty of Premier League titles, many of them over their own title winning sides in the 90s, but they were nowhere near good enough to be a title winning team. Even Ole had a points total well in the 70s one year and finished 2nd, and they were fucking awful all season.

Once Mourinho/Abramavich came in then the points totals at the top went through the roof because it increased the gap between the top and the rest. Then further with Abu Dhabi and then Pep. The league was far more open generally in the 80s and 90s.
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #701 on: May 14, 2024, 06:35:39 pm »
Once Mourinho/Abramavich came in then the points totals at the top went through the roof because it increased the gap between the top and the rest. Then further with Abu Dhabi and then Pep. The league was far more open generally in the 80s and 90s.

It was the champions league more than owners that widened the gap between the top and the rest.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #702 on: May 14, 2024, 07:01:02 pm »
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8pm kick off...


Spurs XI: Vicario, Romero, Porro, van de Ven, Dragusin, Højbjerg, Sarr, Bentancur, Son, Maddison, Johnson.
Subs: Hall, Skipp, Kulusevski, Scarlett, Gil, Austin, Emerson Royal, Moore, Lo Celso.

115+ Cheats XI: Ederson, Walker, Akanji, Dias, Gvardiol, Rodri, Kovacic, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Haaland, Foden.
Subs: Ortega Moreno, Stones, Ake, Grealish, Doku, Alvarez, Nunes, Bobb, Lewis.

Referee: Chris Kavanagh. Assistants: Simon Bennett and Dan Robathan. 4th Official: Graham Scott. VAR: Michael Salisbury.


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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #703 on: May 14, 2024, 07:02:14 pm »
Abu Dhabi is at full strength more or less?

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #704 on: May 14, 2024, 07:12:22 pm »
imagine micah richards not raising the 115 cheat charges to pep there and instead enquired about his sweater
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #705 on: May 14, 2024, 07:15:24 pm »
Yes, but it's different eras. Manchester United in 2017/18 had points totals that would have won plenty of Premier League titles, many of them over their own title winning sides in the 90s, but they were nowhere near good enough to be a title winning team. Even Ole had a points total well in the 70s one year and finished 2nd, and they were fucking awful all season.

Once Mourinho/Abramavich came in then the points totals at the top went through the roof because it increased the gap between the top and the rest. Then further with Abu Dhabi and then Pep. The league was far more open generally in the 80s and 90s.

That's the point though isn't it - go back through the previous decades prior to Abramovich and then the oil state, you can drop points in anywhere between 10 and 20 games and still win the title.  Drop points in 10 games nowadays and you have somewhere between little chance and fuck all chance.

Man United 17/18 were still riding the crest of the wave of media popularity and refereeing bias (they still are, just too shit to take advantage of it).  They'd already been reduced to the role of also-rans since Fergie's bowel issues made it too much of a challenge to sit on the touchline for 45 minutes first half and then another 55 minutes second half dependent upon how well they were doing.

Our dropping points in 14 games this season would likely have been enough to win the title in 17 of 22 seasons between 1981 and 2003 - hardly the case that "we've not been good enough".   We're just seeing the sport of football being reduced to an abomination of the game we love, due to greedy fat-cats at the top kow-towing to gangsters and nation states, where a very decent "normal" season points tally has been reduced from title winning to "hur-hur-hur, bottled it, you're fucking shite".

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #706 on: May 14, 2024, 07:16:37 pm »

So who you want to win?
I fully expect Spurs to win considering how lucky Arsenal are

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #707 on: May 14, 2024, 07:18:43 pm »
So who you want to win?
I fully expect Spurs to win considering how lucky Arsenal are

I think Spurs get a draw today.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #708 on: May 14, 2024, 07:18:46 pm »
Spurs recent success against City has been achieved by parking the bus and countering in numbers. Under Ange they try to play out and push forward (“it’s who we are, mate”) which is suicide against City. Also Spurs fans won’t have their heart in it.



It was also largely achieved thanks to the goal scoring of Kane

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #709 on: May 14, 2024, 07:21:59 pm »
I think Spurs get a draw today.

Can't see it, will have to turn in to a basketball game if it's level late on as a point does fuck all for them

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #710 on: May 14, 2024, 07:22:21 pm »
Oh when the spurssssssss


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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #711 on: May 14, 2024, 07:24:29 pm »
Oh when the spurssssssss


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« Reply #712 on: May 14, 2024, 07:25:03 pm »
It was also largely achieved thanks to the goal scoring of Kane

Son mainly, not Kane.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #713 on: May 14, 2024, 07:26:31 pm »
I wonder if Ange mate will still continue with the high line when Abu Dhabi are 7-0 up?

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #714 on: May 14, 2024, 07:35:53 pm »
Oh when the spurssssssss


Go marching innnnnnnnnn

Haha good luck.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #715 on: May 14, 2024, 07:43:51 pm »
Son mainly, not Kane.

Always remember Kane’s goals to beat city in a 3-2 win, in the most recent season where we just lost out to city. 

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #716 on: May 14, 2024, 07:46:49 pm »
Tommy W and you are besties tonight?

Best mates, mate

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« Reply #717 on: May 14, 2024, 07:47:14 pm »
Haha good luck.

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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #718 on: May 14, 2024, 07:47:54 pm »
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Re: Premier League Fixtures 11th - 15th May
« Reply #719 on: May 14, 2024, 07:49:05 pm »
The Sky love in is hilarious.

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