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« Reply #54880 on: July 24, 2022, 06:07:48 pm »
Just finished The Gray Man on Netflix. Real waste of Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans.
Yeah, it's really not good at all. Even for a Saturday night turn-your-brain-off film, it was seriously lacking. And as you say, it wastes Gosling and Evans.
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« Reply #54881 on: July 25, 2022, 01:46:36 am »
well i know that gosling is playing Ken in the upcomong Barbie film - best script he's ever read, according to him... - so maybe his choice of work is in the willis/cage/Rourke ballpark, some great movies but happy to to sign up to utter garbage

as rourke once famously said during the promotion of one of his terrible films (Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man), 'sometimes you just work for money' lol
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« Reply #54882 on: July 25, 2022, 11:15:58 am »
Just finished The Gray Man on Netflix. Real waste of Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans.

watched it last night at home on the TV with the sound system thinking it would be great

by the numbers is a good way to put it

by comparison 6 Underground is way better at being a fun watchable action movie

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« Reply #54883 on: July 25, 2022, 11:48:41 am »
Pretty much all the action scenes in The Gray Man were unwatchable. Couldn't see what was going on with smoke, lighting, poor CG or both. Hard to believe this was directed by the same people that did Winter Soldier.

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« Reply #54884 on: July 25, 2022, 03:40:07 pm »
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« Reply #54885 on: July 25, 2022, 04:47:34 pm »
Pretty much all the action scenes in The Gray Man were unwatchable. Couldn't see what was going on with smoke, lighting, poor CG or both. Hard to believe this was directed by the same people that did Winter Soldier.

I embarrassingly thought this was called 'Gosling' cos thats all I saw flash up in the trailer
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« Reply #54886 on: July 25, 2022, 04:48:21 pm »
Pretty much all the action scenes in The Gray Man were unwatchable. Couldn't see what was going on with smoke, lighting, poor CG or both. Hard to believe this was directed by the same people that did Winter Soldier.

Yeah it wasn't great was it?

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« Reply #54887 on: July 25, 2022, 05:07:41 pm »
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« Reply #54888 on: July 26, 2022, 05:10:53 pm »
Yeah, it's really not good at all. Even for a Saturday night turn-your-brain-off film, it was seriously lacking. And as you say, it wastes Gosling and Evans.

They've just announced a sequel and a spinoff  ;D

I'm sure loads of people have watched it since launch, but that's not really indicative of its quality. Netflix's interface means they can beat you over the head with the content they want you to watch, and obviously Gosling and Evans were going to lure people in on top of that.

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« Reply #54889 on: July 27, 2022, 12:38:26 pm »
Coming to RAWK for help in finding the name of a film.

Maybe a year ago, I watched a fairly unremarkable film on Netflix. It may have been a Blumhouse production but it also may have been one of Netflix's own films. No combination of sentences describing the premise seems to get a hit on Google to tell me the film's name.

The Premise is that a Family with some unnamed tensions between them live a lifestyle of wealth in a beautiful house where there's mentions of past shared trauma and incidents that aren't explicitly revealed. Anyway, two drifters - a man and a woman I think, maybe even an additional man - are living in the crawl space in the attic as part of a social media/ online trend seeing how long they can live there rent free and undetected, coming out at night or when the house is empty to steal food etc. One of them seems to have a screw loose and wants to mess with the family and spook them, pulling pranks etc and his behaviour gets progressively more extreme leading to disaster.

Probably everyone's seen something similar sounding but if anyone could remember it would ease my mind. It was probably some time from like 2012 - 2020 I would say.
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« Reply #54890 on: July 27, 2022, 12:48:14 pm »
Squatters?

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« Reply #54891 on: July 27, 2022, 05:44:18 pm »
Squatters?
Unfortunately no. Been driving me mad.
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« Reply #54892 on: July 27, 2022, 05:59:57 pm »
Coming to RAWK for help in finding the name of a film.

Maybe a year ago, I watched a fairly unremarkable film on Netflix. It may have been a Blumhouse production but it also may have been one of Netflix's own films. No combination of sentences describing the premise seems to get a hit on Google to tell me the film's name.

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Probably everyone's seen something similar sounding but if anyone could remember it would ease my mind. It was probably some time from like 2012 - 2020 I would say.
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« Reply #54893 on: July 27, 2022, 06:03:14 pm »
Coming to RAWK for help in finding the name of a film.

Maybe a year ago, I watched a fairly unremarkable film on Netflix. It may have been a Blumhouse production but it also may have been one of Netflix's own films. No combination of sentences describing the premise seems to get a hit on Google to tell me the film's name.

The Premise is that a Family with some unnamed tensions between them live a lifestyle of wealth in a beautiful house where there's mentions of past shared trauma and incidents that aren't explicitly revealed. Anyway, two drifters - a man and a woman I think, maybe even an additional man - are living in the crawl space in the attic as part of a social media/ online trend seeing how long they can live there rent free and undetected, coming out at night or when the house is empty to steal food etc. One of them seems to have a screw loose and wants to mess with the family and spook them, pulling pranks etc and his behaviour gets progressively more extreme leading to disaster.

Probably everyone's seen something similar sounding but if anyone could remember it would ease my mind. It was probably some time from like 2012 - 2020 I would say.

Is it either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawlspace_(2013_film)?
or
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_See_You_(2019_film)?

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« Reply #54894 on: July 27, 2022, 09:53:59 pm »
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« Reply #54895 on: July 28, 2022, 01:39:46 pm »
Been meaning to watch for a while, but finally got round to watching Riders of Justice

Really enjoyed it and thoroughly recommended

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« Reply #54896 on: July 28, 2022, 06:02:09 pm »
Watched 'Nobody' starring Bob Odenkirk. Decent one - entertaining.
Also, has a nice little rendition of YNWA in the middle of an apocalyptic gun fight.

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« Reply #54897 on: July 28, 2022, 11:04:39 pm »
You have to find your own way, but Children of Men in black and white, well

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« Reply #54898 on: July 29, 2022, 05:36:49 pm »
If you do find a way to pay for Children Of Men (B&W) please do.  If we stop paying for shit we can't complain when all we get are superhero films.

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« Reply #54899 on: July 29, 2022, 06:16:09 pm »
You have to find your own way, but Children of Men in black and white, well

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If you do find a way to pay for Children Of Men (B&W) please do.  If we stop paying for shit we can't complain when all we get are superhero films.

Is this the Clive Owen movie you're talking about? Did it get a re-release or something?

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« Reply #54900 on: July 29, 2022, 06:24:34 pm »
Is this the Clive Owen movie you're talking about? Did it get a re-release or something?

It's the Clive Owen one.  There's a black and white version that makes it seem like a different film.  It's an extra on a blu-ray somewhere, not the one I have but on a specific region disc.  I imagine it's certainly worth checking out, that said the original version is a masterpiece anyway.

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« Reply #54901 on: July 29, 2022, 07:14:37 pm »
Seems like there's currently a lull in any big films coming out at the moment, Nope came out in America last weekend but won't be in the UK for a few more weeks yet.

Doesn't help when stuff like The Grey Man goes straight onto Netflix. Weird to think if that was a cinema release I'd have gone opening weekend yet because its always on Netflix I've just not bothered with it yet.
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« Reply #54902 on: July 29, 2022, 08:10:18 pm »
It's the Clive Owen one.  There's a black and white version that makes it seem like a different film.  It's an extra on a blu-ray somewhere, not the one I have but on a specific region disc.  I imagine it's certainly worth checking out, that said the original version is a masterpiece anyway.

Yeah I really enjoyed the original, although it's been a long time since I saw it.

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« Reply #54903 on: July 30, 2022, 11:39:46 am »
Just got round to watching The Lost City and it's a very funny film, the chemistry is spot on.

My one gripe is Sandra Bullock must have had some work done on her face, as she had this constant expression as if she was about to burst into tears  ;D Didn't matter what the scene called for; joy, fear, surprise, anger   ...she just looked like she was about to bawl her eyes out!

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« Reply #54904 on: July 30, 2022, 04:37:14 pm »
Norwegian movie - The Innocents; kids with superpowers in a dark tale.

Put the mobile down to watch this one.
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« Reply #54905 on: July 30, 2022, 05:54:51 pm »
Enjoyed Where The Crawdads Sing this week.

Like most films taken from books, there’s a lack of detail but thought this was a really good portrayal.

The book is fantastic!

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« Reply #54906 on: August 1, 2022, 03:28:56 am »
Jurassic World Dominion

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when you think back to the original film, which i found interesting and fun and the dino's were stellar, it's been on the slide ever since, pity cos im sure there's more they could've done with it apart from repeating the same formula continually (with ever decreasing quality)
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« Reply #54907 on: August 1, 2022, 09:33:33 am »
I think the whole Jurassic thing couldn't kick on once the dino's were revealed in the 1st one. That initial 'wow' moment and how to take it all in was amazing at the time.

After that, what where they going to do? go bigger, and bigger but by now we've seen it before.

Furthermore, if this was somehow set in older times it would have made for a more interesting challenge.

Nowadays with modern technology/weapons there's always the thought in the back of your mind to say "How far will this go? just nuke the lot of them" or use one of the many advanced weapons at our disposal, so to me, it takes away the dramatic tension of it all.

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« Reply #54908 on: August 1, 2022, 09:44:45 am »
If they had just included Doug McClure then the series would have been spectacular

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« Reply #54909 on: August 1, 2022, 09:48:38 am »
I'd even take Troy McClure!

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« Reply #54910 on: August 1, 2022, 11:28:46 am »
Make the dinosaurs sentient and do a Planet Of The Apes with them.

Then have Troy McClure star in the musical.
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« Reply #54911 on: August 1, 2022, 12:02:20 pm »
I'm pretty sure one of the pitches for maybe Jurassic World was to have talking dinosaurs.

Jurassic World I actually thought was not too bad, better than JP3 anyway even if it was literally just a reboot of what happened in the first. But there's only so many ways you can get a group of people stranded somewhere with loose dinosaurs before it gets too silly (even for a film about dinosaurs). I'm surprised actually that they've never done a prequel, or even a prequel trilogy. 'Dawn of Jurassic Park' or something. There's a lot of backstory with Hammond, Wu, Nedry, Dodgson etc about how they even got to the point of breeding dinosaurs.
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« Reply #54912 on: August 1, 2022, 03:26:21 pm »
I'm pretty sure one of the pitches for maybe Jurassic World was to have talking dinosaurs.

Jurassic World I actually thought was not too bad, better than JP3 anyway even if it was literally just a reboot of what happened in the first. But there's only so many ways you can get a group of people stranded somewhere with loose dinosaurs before it gets too silly (even for a film about dinosaurs). I'm surprised actually that they've never done a prequel, or even a prequel trilogy. 'Dawn of Jurassic Park' or something. There's a lot of backstory with Hammond, Wu, Nedry, Dodgson etc about how they even got to the point of breeding dinosaurs.

I'm sure half of them on the transfer thread are talking dinosaurs.
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« Reply #54913 on: August 1, 2022, 05:04:34 pm »
I think the whole Jurassic thing couldn't kick on once the dino's were revealed in the 1st one. That initial 'wow' moment and how to take it all in was amazing at the time.

After that, what where they going to do? go bigger, and bigger but by now we've seen it before.

Furthermore, if this was somehow set in older times it would have made for a more interesting challenge.

Nowadays with modern technology/weapons there's always the thought in the back of your mind to say "How far will this go? just nuke the lot of them" or use one of the many advanced weapons at our disposal, so to me, it takes away the dramatic tension of it all.

that was my point

are we saying you can't have an interesting dinosaur movie once dino's have been seen? of course not

it's down to the writing, crafting an interesting story

you could apply the same principle to any movie that has 'monsters' - just cos we've seen the vampire we can't have an interesting movie after the fact?

this is what i mean when i often talk about lazy story writing, it's not just lazy in the sense of cutting corners so shit doesn't make a lot of sense (which does happen a lot), it's actually getting writers of quality who can create an interesting story in the first place

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« Reply #54914 on: August 1, 2022, 06:31:45 pm »
I'm pretty sure one of the pitches for maybe Jurassic World was to have talking dinosaurs.

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« Reply #54915 on: August 1, 2022, 06:52:36 pm »
that was my point

are we saying you can't have an interesting dinosaur movie once dino's have been seen? of course not

it's down to the writing, crafting an interesting story

you could apply the same principle to any movie that has 'monsters' - just cos we've seen the vampire we can't have an interesting movie after the fact?

this is what i mean when i often talk about lazy story writing, it's not just lazy in the sense of cutting corners so shit doesn't make a lot of sense (which does happen a lot), it's actually getting writers of quality who can create an interesting story in the first place


I would personally blame audiences more than writers.

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« Reply #54916 on: August 1, 2022, 07:08:01 pm »
unless the script has been butchered by someone else (it happens), i will always blame the writer for a poor script (and conversely praise them for a good one) - it's their work

in what sense are you blaming the audience?
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« Reply #54917 on: August 1, 2022, 07:41:37 pm »
unless the script has been butchered by someone else (it happens), i will always blame the writer for a poor script (and conversely praise them for a good one) - it's their work

in what sense are you blaming the audience?
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« Reply #54918 on: August 2, 2022, 03:40:40 am »
i get your point, it's what i suspected you were suggesting, i just wanted to make sure

i agree that is generally the case with franchise movies

what i disagree with, is that they have to be that way

Aliens is a classic example of what TipTopKop pointed out earlier, yet i'd argue it's a great movie. At the time it's what we were expecting from Cameron - more/bigger/badder aliens - but it had a good script, great characters/cast and a good storyline. I prefer Alien but Aliens is no franchise cash-in imo, Cameron made a fucking good movie.

Similarly, Terminator, all the above applies to that movie too and again I prefer Terminator but the sequel is a quality movie with a good script generally (don't get me started on the end scene  ;D), good characters/cast, well made.

So my point is just because something is a sequel (or further seasons in TV) is not an excuse for poor writing and badly made films/shows - you can even follow up with bigger badder more-more-more if that's what the studio is calling for, but you can still make a good movie. And im not going to blame the audience if it's not.

Take Picard, season 2 especially - i dont blame trekkies for that, that is 100% on the fuckers that made it. They went with a terrible script in every way possible and did an incredibly shoddy job cutting corners all over the place till it became laughable.

Cos im not in total agreement either that audiences wouldn't take a more 'cerebral', for want of a better expression, film for something like Jurassic - you dont even have to take out the presence of the dino's, you just need a good fucking script, an interesting story.

My whole gripe is that the standards in writing seems to have plummeted in general in the genres i like to watch, whether it's studio heads getting in the way or some other shit im too ignorant to know about, the bottom line is it comes across as yeah we've cut corners but this is it, like it or lump it.

A recent breath of fresh air was Arcane - what a fantastic show, in every way - visually stunning, great characterisation, a compelling story, good fucking writing from dialogue and story to no cutting fucking corners. And as far as im aware it was received very well across the board. Attack on Titan another great show and has maintained a high standard over multiple seasons (not easy). So there's no excuse, it's not an audience thing per se, that's just letting studios off for churning out shite when the talent is out there to make quality products.

Sure the brain dead shit we'll always have and some, maybe lots, of people want it - that has always been the case with cinema, there's nothing new there. And each to their own for those that like that shit.

But for the love of fucking god can we get back to fully fleshed out scripts with no corner cutting in movies/shows where it's required.
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Re: The RAWK Film Thread
« Reply #54919 on: August 2, 2022, 03:53:50 am »
Watched The Parralax View last night. A proper 70s JFK assassination conspiracy/paranoia fest. The story obviously can be a bit silly for some (I am not big into conspiracies) but the film does well to pull you in and make you feel the paranoia. The brainwashing montage was genuinely creepy and brilliant.

The cinematography was in general amazing. In a weird way, almost prefer The Parralax View to All the Presidents Men (which I love too).