Author Topic: Name the best and the worst World Cup so far (Read 7044 times)

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **on:** November 26, 2022, 03:25:49 pm »

For me the best was 98, and the worst got to be 2010

What's your take?

Iska · « **Reply #1 on:** November 26, 2022, 03:29:15 pm »

Depends what age you are surely? I was 10 in 1986 and 14 in 1990, so those two. Objectively though 1986 must be the best cos of Maradona, plus it had games on in the middle of the night and everything.

2010 easily the worst on every metric.

demain · « **Reply #2 on:** November 26, 2022, 03:30:20 pm »

Think the fondest memories of a sporting event tend to be the earliest ones in general. So for me, 1994 and 1998 tend to stand out. I also enjoyed 2006 and 2010, to be fair.

The worst one will be the current edition, the on-field results won't really matter. I didn't enjoy the last two tournaments either.

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #3 on:** November 26, 2022, 03:40:17 pm »

Quote from: demain on November 26, 2022, 03:30:20 pm

Think the fondest memories of a sporting event tend to be the earliest ones in general. So for me, 1994 and 1998 tend to stand out. I also enjoyed 2006 and 2010, to be fair.

The worst one will be the current edition, the on-field results won't really matter. I didn't enjoy the last two tournaments either.

It's funny, i remember 2002 more than i remember 2006

Lastrador · « **Reply #4 on:** November 26, 2022, 03:40:24 pm »

98 by far the best I have seen. The amount of great players and all around great squads on that tournament put the most recent WC (especially this one) to absolute shame. Some greatly emotional games.

The worst was 2002. Some great names, but too many big nations underperformed. Awful kick off times. Dodgy as fuck, especially the South Korea games. Just very low quality.

theredguy03 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2022, 03:42:35 pm »

Germany 2006 was my favourite. Japan and Korea in 2002 wasn't too bad either. Not really a fan of any of the 2010's tournaments.

Tobelius · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2022, 03:56:21 pm »

-86 and funnily enough -94 for me were the best,the latter perhaps because i had just gotten through my mandatory armed service year,was young and it was a fun summer in many ways.

2010 and this one the worst for me,2010:shit football and because the sound of the vuvuzelas were permanently burned in my brain and this one because i despise everything about it,the thousands of deaths,FIFA,Qatar you name it i hate it.

Son of Spion · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2022, 03:58:57 pm »

I can't really play. I've never followed international football.

The only World Cup I remember anything about was Argentina 1978. Even then I only remember the crazy ticker-tape by the Argentine fans and everyone in school pretending to be Mario Kempes when we had a kickabout.

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rob1966 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2022, 04:22:28 pm »

Quote from: Son of Spion on November 26, 2022, 03:58:57 pm

I can't really play. I've never followed international football.

The only World Cup I remember anything about was Argentina 1978. Even then I only remember the crazy ticker-tape by the Argentine fans and everyone in school pretending to be Mario Kempes when we had a kickabout.

Ha ha, yeah, everyone was Mario Kempes that year. It also meant we got to see that little genius Ossie Ardiles in the 1st Division, even if it was for Spurs

1978 and 1982 stick in the memory for me, 82 for Paolo Rossi, banned and disgraced for match fixing and suddenly becoming the Italian hero and the run and pure joy on the face of Marco Tardelli when he gave Italy a 2-1 lead in the Final

This one is the worst for all the off field reasons. Not watched any games, I've got the Forest Green v Alvechurch FA cup game on, rather than this afternoons game

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #9 on:** November 26, 2022, 04:31:14 pm »

1970, not many people can say that

2022 so far, as I've not watched (and not that bothered really either, thought I'd miss it)

oojason · « **Reply #10 on:** November 26, 2022, 04:44:41 pm »

The best: Spain '82 for me (beautiful football on show) - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=254153.0

The worst: Qatar '22 (for obvious reasons) - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=305953.0

Brazil '70 with an obvious / obligatory mention (though before my time) - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=237937

Black Bull Nova must be older than I thought - or is in fact... a TimeLord!

TheMissionary · « **Reply #11 on:** November 26, 2022, 04:45:13 pm »

Quote from: Black Bull Nova on November 26, 2022, 04:31:14 pm

1970, not many people can say that

The Brazil Team of 1970 was the best ever, a magnificent team which, considering who was in it, was actually greater than the sum of its parts. Some teams retire shirt numbers when a "great" player packs in....similarly, in my opinion, the world cup should have just stopped after 1970 'cause nothing was going to top it.

So 1970 was the best. Can't comment on a worst one as I haven't really watched one since, got better things to so. Looking forward to the season starting again though.

afc tukrish · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:00:06 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on November 26, 2022, 04:22:28 pm

and the run and pure joy on the face of Marco Tardelli when he gave Italy a 2-1 lead in the Final

Still the greatest goal celebration ever, bar none...

'82 the best for me.

Didn't watch 2018 at all, couldn't be bothered.

The North Bank · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:01:58 pm »

Best 1994, worst 2010

Red Bird · « **Reply #14 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:08:24 pm »

2022 the worst by a country mile — truly dreadful football on general show. 1982 was the best when we witnessed some truly beautiful football, hardly seen since.

Samie · « **Reply #15 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:12:32 pm »

98 World Cup is the first one I remember properly so it has to be that.

2010 World Cup was pretty crap.

S · « **Reply #16 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:14:58 pm »

Can only go on ones I’m old enough to have watched at the time.

Best - Germany 2006
Worst - South Africa 2010

I tend to enjoy the Euros more. Euro 2008 remains the best tournament I’ve ever seen.

rob1966 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:15:38 pm »

Quote from: Red Bird on November 26, 2022, 05:08:24 pm

2022 the worst by a country mile — truly dreadful football on general show. 1982 was the best when we witnessed some truly beautiful football, hardly seen since.

Got me thinking back to Zico, Socrates and the rest of that Brazil team - best team ever to NOT win a WC Tournament?

Samie · « **Reply #18 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:16:40 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on November 26, 2022, 05:15:38 pm

Got me thinking back to Zico, Socrates and the rest of that Brazil team - best team ever to NOT win a WC Tournament?

74 Dutch team probably just tips it mate.

S · « **Reply #19 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:28:16 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on November 26, 2022, 05:15:38 pm

Got me thinking back to Zico, Socrates and the rest of that Brazil team - best team ever to NOT win a WC Tournament?

In terms of individual talent, England 2006 is up there. There I’ve said it.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #20 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:42:31 pm »

Worst? 94 by a mile.

Best? 86 for me, but enjoyed 98 and 2014 a lot too.

rob1966 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 26, 2022, 05:44:31 pm »

Quote from: Samie on November 26, 2022, 05:16:40 pm

74 Dutch team probably just tips it mate.

God yeah, that was a hell of a side too. I can't really remember the 74 WC, but I do remember seeing Cryuff at Anfield in the 76 UEFA cup semi.

Red Bird · « **Reply #22 on:** November 26, 2022, 06:05:51 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on November 26, 2022, 05:15:38 pm

Got me thinking back to Zico, Socrates and the rest of that Brazil team - best team ever to NOT win a WC Tournament?

Brilliant footballers, the lot of them. There was also a waspish left-sided attacker, Juniór, who scored a couple of crackers. If you have time, watch the best Brazilian of 1982 World Cup goals on YouTube.

Iska · « **Reply #23 on:** November 26, 2022, 06:19:13 pm »

I was trying to think if there *has* been a ‘best team not to win the world cup’ since that Brazil 82 side. Probably not? I feel like these tourneys actually were always won by the best team. Probably France 2006, but Italy were worthy winners that year. Maybe you could offer Argentina 2006 for the cognoscenti. High quality tournament that year.

4pool · « **Reply #24 on:** November 26, 2022, 06:38:51 pm »

USA 1994 best because I went to 4 matches.

2022 the worst. Haven't watched one minute of it. Fcuk FIFA. Fcuk Qatar.

King_doggerel · « **Reply #25 on:** November 26, 2022, 06:42:57 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on November 26, 2022, 06:38:51 pm

USA 1998 best because I went to 4 matches.

2022 the worst. Haven't watched one minute of it. Fcuk FIFA. Fcuk Qatar.

USA 94 or France 98?

Those 2 are my favourites. I haven't watched 2022 so will be my worst.

afc tukrish · « **Reply #26 on:** November 26, 2022, 06:58:05 pm »

Quote from: Samie on November 26, 2022, 05:16:40 pm

74 Dutch team probably just tips it mate.

Or '54 Hungary...

Red Bird · « **Reply #27 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:14:34 pm »

Quote from: afc turkish on November 26, 2022, 06:58:05 pm

Or '54 Hungary...

I’ve heard tell of them.

Samie · « **Reply #28 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:17:10 pm »

Quote from: afc turkish on November 26, 2022, 06:58:05 pm

Or '54 Hungary...

Good shout. Hadjekuti bandwagon gains a new member.

4pool · « **Reply #29 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:24:07 pm »

Quote from: King_doggerel on November 26, 2022, 06:42:57 pm

USA 94 or France 98?

Those 2 are my favourites. I haven't watched 2022 so will be my worst.

Don't know what you're talking about..

Morgana · « **Reply #30 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:24:46 pm »

90 was the first one I remember watching from opening ceremony to closing, and it was great. Some really entertaining matches, even the 1-0s and 0-0s. My sister had a massive crush on Maradona and she cried like a baby when Argentina lost the final. Weirdly, I became Klinsmann-obsessed after that WC and would buy Shoot! and any other magazine with his mug on the cover. Even though he played for Tottenham.

2010 was hilarious. I didn't mind the vuvuzelas at all. Endless complaints from match commentators were way more annoying. That Holland-Spain final was so mind-numbing you would've died of boredom if it weren't for the vuvuzelas. Fondest memories of 2010 was getting to watch that WC with my mum, who was visiting me in North Wales. Lasting memory was that Ghana-Uruguay game and Suarez doing Suarez things.

2018 was just a bad World Cup. It also started the trend of FIFA selling the tournament to the highest bidder. France were not inspiring as champions. Would've preferred anybody but them to win.

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #31 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:27:25 pm »

Quote from: oojason on November 26, 2022, 04:44:41 pm

The best: Spain '82 for me (beautiful football on show) - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=254153.0

The worst: Qatar '22 (for obvious reasons) - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=305953.0

Brazil '70 with an obvious / obligatory mention (though before my time) - www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=237937

Black Bull Nova must be older than I thought - or is in fact... a TimeLord!

I am 137, the world cup in Uruguay was brilliant. (I was very young in 1970 but I saw colour television at the same time, Colour TV and Pele's Brazil, unbeatable combination, 1982 was good as well, Socrates)

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #32 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:31:59 pm »

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Iska · « **Reply #33 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:46:56 pm »

1954 must have been a belter, some cracking scorelines in the knockouts. Three separate games with their own nicknames!

The Austria-Switzerland game looks particularly mental - 3 goals in 4 minutes for Switzerland early on, followed by Austria hitting back with 5 goals in 9 minutes shortly afterwards.

King_doggerel · « **Reply #34 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:56:06 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on November 26, 2022, 07:24:07 pm

Don't know what you're talking about..

there wasn't a 'usa 98' as you said. but there was a usa 94.

oojason · « **Reply #35 on:** November 26, 2022, 07:57:45 pm »

Quote from: Black Bull Nova on November 26, 2022, 07:27:25 pm

I am 137, the world cup in Uruguay was brilliant. (I was very young in 1970 but I saw colour television at the same time, Colour TV and Pele's Brazil, unbeatable combination, 1982 was good as well, Socrates)

Ah, you're one of those whippersnappers with a season ticket on the original Kop!

I am forever envious of anyone who watched Mexico '70 - that team... (and the whole World Cup looked quality).

One of the only things FIFA have done well of late is put the available matches up for everyone to watch for free - www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/archive?filters=3oN3YY1ihoEBFyDMZr5k9V

Quote from: Black Bull Nova on November 26, 2022, 07:31:59 pm

^ It must have mentally destroyed Italy to have Brazil's defensive midfielder do that to their midfield... all four of them teased and nowhere near getting the ball off him. Simply layoff and then that ball down the line - the control and take on the turn by Jairzinho (on a shit pitch, heavy ball, the heat, last game of the tournament), and then cut in...

Dr. Beaker · « **Reply #36 on:** November 26, 2022, 08:12:06 pm »

70 the best ( though Pele reckoned the '58 team was better), maybe '66 the worst.

Worth watching the pass from Carlos Alberto to Jairzinho that lead to the Banks save from Pele' s header if anyone can put it up. Can't think of anyone since who could play that pass.

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #37 on:** November 26, 2022, 08:17:47 pm »

Quote from: oojason on November 26, 2022, 07:57:45 pm

Ah, you're one of those whippersnappers with a season ticket on the original Kop!

You don't get to avoid piss streams and moving 10 yards without touching the floor in Qatar

On the subject of Pele

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/k85liXbZiao" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/k85liXbZiao</a>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k85liXbZiao

oojason · « **Reply #38 on:** November 26, 2022, 08:18:19 pm »

Quote from: Dr. Beaker on November 26, 2022, 08:12:06 pm

70 the best ( though Pele reckoned the '58 team was better), maybe '66 the worst.

Worth watching the pass from Carlos Alberto to Jairzinho that lead to the Banks save from Pele' s header if anyone can put it up. Can't think of anyone since who could play that pass.

Around 40 seconds into this video mate - the way the ball seemed to just evade and then cut inside the England full-back...

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ngE9RCAdWaE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ngE9RCAdWaE</a>

and a little more focus on Banks' save here - www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IXEc6BAHpY

Dr. Beaker · « **Reply #39 on:** November 26, 2022, 08:24:53 pm »

Quote from: oojason on November 26, 2022, 08:18:19 pm

Around 40 seconds into this video mate - the way the ball seemed to just evade and then cut inside the England full-back...

and a little more focus on Banks' save here - www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IXEc6BAHpY

Spot on mate. Best header I've ever seen too, goes over Mullery' s head but Pele manages to head it down!?