Topic: World Athletics Championships 2022

[Hazell]

A couple of nations switched up the order of the mixed relay in the Olympics and if just completely fucked things up for them.

Yeah, though it is a new event so teams may evolve and find that another combination works better. I hope so anyway.

Quite enjoying the champs this year.  I record the evening session then get up early doors and can usually skip through & watch highlights within the hour before watching any news or opening social media. 

Me too, I try and avoid what happens in the evening session and then try and watch it in real time. Enjoying it as well, Women's 100m and men's high jump have been the highlights so far.

Obviously got vested interest in the Men's 800m my lad's mate Max Burgin running (know his dad pretty well back when he was running 1:47/48 - he's about 3 years older than me).  Just hope he can handle the 2 heats before the final.  Weird that about a month ago he was playing poker with my 3 lads in our dining room!

ha ha nice! Will look out for him.

[TheShanklyGates]

Gold for Jake Wightman in the 1500m! He just ran away from the Olympic champion Ingebrigtsen! Mad, didn't see that coming at all.

[spen71]

Gold for Jake Wightman in the 1500m! He just ran away from the Olympic champion Ingebrigtsen! Mad, didn't see that coming at all.

Nor me.   I thought he might get a silver, he ran brilliantly and never looked like being passed

[Ziltoid]

He's looked good in the rounds, and tactically he's probably the best out there. Always thought it'd be him or Ingebrigsen and going ahead with 200m to go i think affected Ingebrigsen as he's used to dictating from the front.

[Crosby Nick]

Brilliant! Slightly annoyed that I heard in the news when I put the radio on rather than watching ‘as live’ but still great to watch. When was the last time three Europeans won the medals in the 1,500m?

Also, did Warholm forget his magic shoes?

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Also, did Warholm forget his magic shoes?

Carrying a hamstring injury isn't he?

[Gerry Attrick]

Inegbritsen was a bit salty after too, which should make it much sweeter for Wightman.

[Crosby Nick]

Carrying a hamstring injury isn't he?

Just watched the race, and it mentioned his form/fitness had been a bit of a concern before hand. Shame for him although a brilliant run from the Brazilian.

[Crosby Nick]

Funny how having once been so good at middle distance events, then going through a pretty barren spell with the exception of Kelly Holmes we’ve suddenly got loads of medal possibilities across the men and women. How does that happen? Loads of good planning and coaching behind the scenes? Just a good crop pushing each other on? Although Wightman is 28 so been around a while.

[SouthDerryLaggo]

Funny how having once been so good at middle distance events, then going through a pretty barren spell with the exception of Kelly Holmes we’ve suddenly got loads of medal possibilities across the men and women. How does that happen? Loads of good planning and coaching behind the scenes? Just a good crop pushing each other on? Although Wightman is 28 so been around a while.

Big improvement to make at 28

[Ziltoid]

Big improvement to make at 28

Not really he's always been in finals in recent years and was European Junior Champion

[Elzar]

Why do they do 1500m rather than 1600m?

[Crosby Nick]

Big improvement to make at 28

Haha here we go.

It’s not like he’s smashed a world record out of nowhere. Wasn’t a particularly fast race I don’t think and he’s been around and in the mix for a while.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Why do they do 1500m rather than 1600m?

It's the metric mile isn't it?

[Hazell]

Gold for Jake Wightman in the 1500m! He just ran away from the Olympic champion Ingebrigtsen! Mad, didn't see that coming at all.

Watched this as live and it was a pretty great race, loved Steve Cram getting all excited when he realised Wightman was going to win it. Britain doing quite well in the middle distances right now with Wightman, Muir and Hodgkinson all winning medals at major championships.

The 400m hurdles was great as well, Dos Santos deservedly got the gold in that one.

And the women's 200m semi's was high quality, no surprise given how strong that field is right now. That final should be brilliant.

[Hazell]

Inegbritsen was a bit salty after too, which should make it much sweeter for Wightman.

Yeah Something about Ingebrigtsen rubs me up the wrong way.

[Crosby Nick]

Yeah Something about Ingebrigtsen rubs me up the wrong way.

What did he say?

[Hazell]

What did he say?

Don't know, I just like that he's bitter.

Actually, it wasn't that bad:

https://www.flotrack.org/events/7727004-2022-world-athletics-championships/videos?playing=7914770

[Crosby Nick]

Don't know, I just like that he's bitter.

Thanks.

[duvva 💅]

Watched this as live and it was a pretty great race, loved Steve Cram getting all excited when he realised Wightman was going to win it. Britain doing quite well in the middle distances right now with Wightman, Muir and Hodgkinson all winning medals at major championships.

The 400m hurdles was great as well, Dos Santos deservedly got the gold in that one.

And the women's 200m semi's was high quality, no surprise given how strong that field is right now. That final should be brilliant.

I haven’t heard it but apparently Wightmans dad was the stadium commentator, imagine it was pretty emotional calling his boy home in front

[Hazell]

I haven’t heard it but apparently Wightmans dad was the stadium commentator, imagine it was pretty emotional calling his boy home in front

Yeah he was. I haven't heard the commentary but yeah, must have been a special moment.

[Ziltoid]

Gutted, Max has had to pull out due to calf injury

[Red-Soldier]

Gutted, Max has had to pull out due to calf injury

Yeah, just read that. Shame.

[Red-Soldier]

Surprised to read that Semenya has balls.

[Crosby Nick]

Gutted, Max has had to pull out due to calf injury

That’s a shame. We’re you saying he hasn’t been at a Championships for a long time?

[Ziltoid]

That’s a shame. We’re you saying he hasn’t been at a Championships for a long time?

He's pretty injury prone and missed the whole of last season.  He's run very sparingly this season and concentrated on strength work back in winters/spring.  His WL time was only his 2nd race this season.

[Dull Tools]

Watched this as live and it was a pretty great race, loved Steve Cram getting all excited when he realised Wightman was going to win it. Britain doing quite well in the middle distances right now with Wightman, Muir and Hodgkinson all winning medals at major championships.

The 400m hurdles was great as well, Dos Santos deservedly got the gold in that one.

And the women's 200m semi's was high quality, no surprise given how strong that field is right now. That final should be brilliant.

Annoyingly Burgin had to pull out of the 800m as he had the quickest time of the year.

[TheShanklyGates]

Noah Lyles ran a 19.31s 200m. Faster than Michael Johnson's old world record and only behind Bolt and Blake on the all time list.

Well done to Dina Asher-Smtih as well on picking up a bronze behind the two Jamaicans.

[Crosby Nick]

Noah Lyles ran a 19.31s 200m. Faster than Michael Johnson's old world record and only behind Bolt and Blake on the all time list.

Well done to Dina Asher-Smtih as well on picking up a bronze behind the two Jamaicans.

Behind 2 of the 3 Jamaicans! I excellent run from her just to get a medal. I read that the Silver Medal time from when she won it in 2019 wouldn’t have been fast enough to make the final this time round, showing how high the standard was. Where we’re all the Jamaicans in 2019?!).

[Linudden]

Seems to have gone under the radar this year, usually gets more attention.

Eilish McColgan currently going in the 10,000m Final.

I think it being in Pacific Time always makes it more difficult for the event to get attention in Europe. Likewise, I don't know whether the 2028 Olympics will be a success in Europe for the same reason. It's much easier when it's in Asia because then the TV stations can do re-runs at night and most people are awake while the finals are going on anyway.

[Ray K]

Gutted, Max has had to pull out due to calf injury

Steve Cram just said on the commentary that Max's calf injury was actually Deep Vein Thrombosis, as a result of the flight over. He'll have to wait over there a while as it's very dangerous to fly back with it.

[TheShanklyGates]

Sydney McLaughlin just took nearly a second off her own world record in the 400m hurdles

That's the 4th time she's broken the world record in the last year, incredible.

Her time was faster than 2 of the finalists ran in the flat 400m race!

[Crosby Nick]

Sydney McLaughlin just took nearly a second off her own world record in the 400m hurdles

That's the 4th time she's broken the world record in the last year, incredible.

Her time was faster than 2 of the finalists ran in the flat 400m race!

Wow.

Bronze for Matt Hudson-Smith in the 400m, holding off Van Niekerk who had had injury problems, but still a good effort.

Both 4x100m relays teams into their finals too, as is Hodgkinson in the 800m. Chances for a few more medals still.

[Ray K]

Sydney McLaughlin just took nearly a second off her own world record in the 400m hurdles

That's the 4th time she's broken the world record in the last year, incredible.

Her time was faster than 2 of the finalists ran in the flat 400m race!

She must have been wearing extra magic shoes.

[Ziltoid]

Steve Cram just said on the commentary that Max's calf injury was actually Deep Vein Thrombosis, as a result of the flight over. He'll have to wait over there a while as it's very dangerous to fly back with it.

Yes we heard yesterday but sworn to secrecy as we didn't know if it was being made public. Looks like he'll miss Commonwealth Games but hopefully be ok for Europeans.

[Red-Soldier]

She must have been wearing extra magic shoes.

Usain Bolt: ‘I would have run under 9.5 seconds with super spikes’

he fastest man in history is pondering just how much more destructive he could have been in the super spikes that have swung a wrecking ball at so many world records. Briefly, there is a battle between Usain Bolt the diplomat and Usain Bolt the competitor. The competitor wins. “Me and a friend were talking about this the other day,” he says. “And I was like, ‘should I be upset?’ Because I know over the years everyone has tried to make spikes different and better but …”

Bolt stresses he is not worried about the current crop shredding his 100m world record of 9.58sec or his 200m best of 19.19sec. Yet he sounds uneasy about where the arms race in shoe technology will lead. “How can I argue if World Athletics decide that it’s legal? I can’t do anything about it. The rules are the rules. I don’t think I’ll be fully happy, but it’s just one of those things.”

He wants to make one thing absolutely clear: he would have gone a whole lot faster in the new wave of super spikes – which feature a superlight, energy-returning foam and are said to be worth at least a tenth of a second over 100m. He is just not sure by how much. “We have guessed and we have talked about it, but I don’t know for sure,” he says. “But definitely much faster. Below 9.5 seconds for sure. Without a doubt.”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/06/usain-bolt-i-would-have-run-under-95-seconds-with-super-spikes

Tegla Loroupe says athletes using high-tech shoes are 'cheating'

Athletes using new running shoe technology are "cheating" and it is "almost like doping", says ex-marathon world record holder Tegla Loroupe.

The growth of high-tech shoes has coincided with a number of world records being set in endurance races in recent years.

Critics argue such shoes give the wearer an unfair advantage and Kenya's Loroupe believes they should be banned.

"I'm not a fan of that because there is no human energy," she told BBC Sport.

"You are cheating, you are not a hero because you don't use your own strength.

"You can have a faster shoe [but] what about those who cannot afford, it's almost like doping, for me there is no difference between doping and having a faster shoe."

In March, Welsh marathon runner Dewi Griffiths told BBC Sport Wales the advancements in shoe technology gave runners "free time" in races.

In 2020, World Athletics tightened its rules around high-tech shoes, including banning the Nike 'Alphafly' prototype shoes worn by Eliud Kipchoge when he became the first athlete to run a marathon in under two hours in October 2019.

Former British Olympic marathon runner Mara Yamauchi previously told BBC Sport that "we no longer truly have fair competition".

Nike has said it "respects the spirit of the rules" and does not "create any running shoes that return more energy than the runner expends".

Loroupe, who will be the chef de mission for the refugee team at the Tokyo Olympics this summer, said: "[It's] good to have shoes but to have this element that other athletes cannot afford, it's wrong. For me, the shoes should be banned so that people can trust themselves, they can train and see that I am able to do.

"We ran without shoes and when we got shoes, it's just normal shoes, but we still broke the world record."

Loroupe, 47, was the first African woman to hold the marathon world record, which she set in Rotterdam in 1998 and held until 2001.

In March, Welsh marathon runner Dewi Griffiths told BBC Sport Wales the advancements in shoe technology gave runners "free time" in races.

In 2020, World Athletics tightened its rules around high-tech shoes, including banning the Nike 'Alphafly' prototype shoes worn by Eliud Kipchoge when he became the first athlete to run a marathon in under two hours in October 2019.

Former British Olympic marathon runner Mara Yamauchi previously told BBC Sport that "we no longer truly have fair competition".

Nike has said it "respects the spirit of the rules" and does not "create any running shoes that return more energy than the runner expends".

Loroupe, who will be the chef de mission for the refugee team at the Tokyo Olympics this summer, said: "[It's] good to have shoes but to have this element that other athletes cannot afford, it's wrong. For me, the shoes should be banned so that people can trust themselves, they can train and see that I am able to do.

"We ran without shoes and when we got shoes, it's just normal shoes, but we still broke the world record."

Loroupe, 47, was the first African woman to hold the marathon world record, which she set in Rotterdam in 1998 and held until 2001.

She twice won the New York marathon as well as winning in London and Berlin.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/56927028


Nike Vaporfly ban: why World Athletics had to act against the high-tech shoes

Kenyan runner Eliud Kipchoge last year became the first person to run a marathon distance in under two hours. But instead of being a pure celebration of human performance, the achievement (though not technically an official world record) led to criticism of Kipchoge’s shoes, an advanced design of the Nike Vaporfly. It represented an intensification of concern that the Vaporfly design was turning the humble trainer into an unfair form of performance enhancement.

Now Kipchoge’s Vaporflys have been banned from competition in a recent move by running’s governing body, World Athletics. Despite this, other versions of the shoes will still be legal. The new rules also set a maximum sole thickness and a limit to the number of internal carbon plates that are used to help manage the runner’s energy. In addition, any new design of shoes has to be made available for anyone to buy four months before they can be used in competition.

Likewise, once full-body and specially textured swimsuits started rapidly rewriting swimming’s world records, their adoption was challenged and eventually outlawed. In that case (like that of Kipchoge’s Vaporflys), athletes who couldn’t get hold of the swimsuits were left at a competitive disadvantage if they had sponsorship or endorsement with brands that didn’t produce the equipment.

Ultimately, the proposed gains of the Vaporfly shoes will not suddenly turn recreational donkeys into racehorses. But at an elite level it is possible for a top athlete to suddenly become uncompetitive if they don’t keep up with the kind of innovation Nike has demonstrated. Irrespective of the World Athletics decision, running has moved from being a footrace to an arms race.

https://theconversation.com/nike-vaporfly-ban-why-world-athletics-had-to-act-against-the-high-tech-shoes-131249

[Ray K]

Usain Bolt: ‘I would have run under 9.5 seconds with super spikes’

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/06/usain-bolt-i-would-have-run-under-95-seconds-with-super-spikes

Tegla Loroupe says athletes using high-tech shoes are 'cheating'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/56927028


Nike Vaporfly ban: why World Athletics had to act against the high-tech shoes

https://theconversation.com/nike-vaporfly-ban-why-world-athletics-had-to-act-against-the-high-tech-shoes-131249

He ran 9.58. Not a great stretch ti suggest he could get under 9.50.
Michael Johnson said he could have done it easily if he improved his starts

[Red-Soldier]

He ran 9.58. Not a great stretch ti suggest he could get under 9.50.
Michael Johnson said he could have done it easily if he improved his starts

I'm just the messenger mate.  You can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink 

[Samie]

Oh fuck the Shoe Inspector is back. 

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

I'm just the messenger mate.  You can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink 

You should tell Bolt he should forget 9.5 and aim for 8.5