Topic: Wrestling Thread (AEW, NJPW, WWE, etc) (*)

[Sheer Magnetism]

What's the context of this? Looks amazing.

It was like the last 10 seconds of this, but with Cena as Jimbo:

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[Stockholm Syndrome]

Depends purely on the creativity at hand for Undertaker. Matt Hardy has created something very special with "Cinematic Matches".

Come on, let's not forget cinematic matches like Minoru Suzuki vs Mecha Mummy which predates Matt Hardy by a lot 

[Stockholm Syndrome]

They are so so determined to make Charlotte the womens' Austin or Rock when its clear she's the Triple H. Not the person that draws but the person that works with the one that draws.

Now she can cut off people's credibility and go over them before they even reach the main roster, show how cool and badass she really is.

It's going to be real fun comparing Io and Charlotte's moonsaults in a match.

I just hope the talk on Io and Kairi's contracts coming up and them wanting to go back to Japan has a solid basis - by far the most talented women on the roster and will have ZERO chance going beyond enhancement talent for Becky and Charlotte (and the rest of the 4 horsewomen and Bliss to a lesser degree)

[OsirisMVZ]

Now she can cut off people's credibility and go over them before they even reach the main roster, show how cool and badass she really is.

It's going to be real fun comparing Io and Charlotte's moonsaults in a match.

I just hope the talk on Io and Kairi's contracts coming up and them wanting to go back to Japan has a solid basis - by far the most talented women on the roster and will have ZERO chance going beyond enhancement talent for Becky and Charlotte (and the rest of the 4 horsewomen and Bliss to a lesser degree)

Yeah Asuka being so over and hitting a glass ceiling very early on into her main roster career is a red flag for the both of them.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Yeah Asuka being so over and hitting a glass ceiling very early on into her main roster career is a red flag for the both of them.

Also, to be quite frank, if I was a wrestler moving from Tokyo to Florida, I think I would either need a lot of money or a big push to want to stay.

Io took a paycut and Bushiroad want to pay them a shit tonne to get them back at Stardom.

Asuka hit the glass ceiling in like 5 months of main roster didn't she? Lauri hit it right away. Up may not even leave NXT before she hits it

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

What's the context of this? Looks amazing.

Watch WrestleMania, there's no way a post on here can explain the firefly house match.

I now want a firefly house boneyard match.

[paulrazor]

Read last few pages. Laughed out load at suggestion of yokozuna and viscera having a ladder match.

Loved the wm17 stuff too

This boneyard match sounds interesting

[tubby]

Think this kind of stuff is fine every now and then, the worry would be Vince thinking it's turned out amazing and then trying to do similar matches on every PPV.

[courty61]

Watch WrestleMania, there's no way a post on here can explain the firefly house match.

I now want a firefly house boneyard match.

Seen a few things now. Haha looks a bit mad!

It would have been better if they got Bruce Prichard to do the "damn that's good shit" - unless his impression has got even better

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Think this kind of stuff is fine every now and then, the worry would be Vince thinking it's turned out amazing and then trying to do similar matches on every PPV.

Absolutely. I think every Undertaker match should be like this, and likely no other match should be in this style.

It's an over the top, B Movie, somewhat exciting in a stupid way match. If you do it rarely, and do it mainly to hide deficiencies it is great. I would rather this than watching Undertaker REALLY struggle in a normal match, which is just sad and depressing.

I fear Vince will see it as the future of wrestling and every match will be cinematic, or at least a one per PPV. It will go stale, they will run out of ideas, it will end up being shitter.

[rakey_lfc]

Edge v Orton stole the show for me.

Still a bit baffled by the whole Firefly fun house match.

Overall thought night 1 was better than night 2.

[Sheer Magnetism]

I fear Vince will see it as the future of wrestling and every match will be cinematic, or at least a one per PPV. It will go stale, they will run out of ideas, it will end up being shitter.

No way they would do something that would cut into their gate receipts. They were going to hold Wrestlemania at a 75,000 capacity stadium with an average ticket price exceeding $200. I can see the appeal but ultimately, I can't imagine anyone convincing Vince to spend money on something you can otherwise charge people to see.

[gazzalfc]

Outside of the HBK vs Bret Ironman match at WM 12, Edge vs Orton was the longest match in WM history

[stoa]

No way they would do something that would cut into their gate receipts. They were going to hold Wrestlemania at a 75,000 capacity stadium with an average ticket price exceeding $200. I can see the appeal but ultimately, I can't imagine anyone convincing Vince to spend money on something you can otherwise charge people to see.

Add to that, that it probably cost them a lot more to build that set for the boneyard match (haven't seen the other one yet) and have a film crew there to shoot it than just having a normal match between Undertaker and Styles. The question is, would it be worth it to pay that money in normal circumstances when you have thousands of people in the crowd in a stadium and you're showing the whole thing on the network. How many more people would be willing to get the network for a glorified B-movie? Why pay for something that won't really increase the money you make from the event? They had to do something special for this WM, because nobody would have given a fuck had they had all the matches in an empty arena. So, they were probably happy to pay extra for those two matches....

[stevieG786]

Edge and Orton was shite, 20 minutes too long. allot of huffing and puffing the lack of trash talk and zero blood (really?!) hurt it

[mgs88]

Edge and Orton was shite, 20 minutes too long. allot of huffing and puffing the lack of trash talk and zero blood (really?!) hurt it

I didn't think wwe did colour at all these days unless it happens by accident the hard way?

[gerrardisgod]

Do it on the very odd occasion, normally involving Lesnar.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Is there anywhere I can watch the Undertaker match?

[tubby]

Is there anywhere I can watch the Undertaker match?

Will post a link to a site that usually has everything when I get back on my non-work laptop.

[mgs88]

Is there anywhere I can watch the Undertaker match?

http://watchwrestling.in

[stevieG786]

Is there anywhere I can watch the Undertaker match?

heard theyre replaying it on RAW and firefly funhouse match on Smackdown this week

[I've been a good boy]

http://watchwrestling.in

Is that a dodgy website? Every link I click on, takes me to some geek jets website showing me how to fix the wi-fi

[gazzalfc]

Not sure if trying to hang a aging Canadian wrestler with workout equipment was in the best of tastes in hindsight

[mgs88]

Is that a dodgy website? Every link I click on, takes me to some geek jets website showing me how to fix the wi-fi

Na the website should be fine. I use ad block and the videos just load. I've been using for years with out any issues.

[stoa]

Is that a dodgy website? Every link I click on, takes me to some geek jets website showing me how to fix the wi-fi

Just play the video. It should be the one you were looking for (i.e. Wrestlemania). The stuff about the wi-fi fixing is just there to make it look like it's something else so it doesn't get taken down or whatever....

[Stockholm Syndrome]

So from the Gargano/Ciampa match, WWE have already found a way to ruin the cinematic style match. It was dull, mediocre as a wrestling match, and had a fucking TNA tier bad finish. Worst of all, there was no reason to have it as a cinematic match, which makes me worried they will do lots of matches like this.

[Something Worse]

So from the Gargano/Ciampa match, WWE have already found a way to ruin the cinematic style match. It was dull, mediocre as a wrestling match, and had a fucking TNA tier bad finish. Worst of all, there was no reason to have it as a cinematic match, which makes me worried they will do lots of matches like this.

They will over the next few weeks, for obvious reasons.

[Kopout]

Even if there is nothing else on i wouldn't watch this. empty arena just doesn't work for me.

[Riquende]

The first of AEW's prerecorded shows aired last night, and given the circumstances they're doing a great job. Flying in Jericho for commentary alongside Schiavone was a masterstroke, they have an excellent dynamic together, with Jericho doing his best attempt at Heenan. The show was padded out with VT of course, but the 3 non-squash matches we got were a good quality, and having the roster at ringside helps a lot. This week they let the local enhancement guys come out to watch which led to Jericho getting continually annoyed at one guy he was referring to as 'Pineapple Pete'. By the end he was utterly incensed with him!

https://streamable.com/40rnuu

A clip from Shida/Britt earlier in the evening.

[gazzalfc]

https://streamable.com/40rnuu

A clip from Shida/Britt earlier in the evening.

There's a bit later where britt has blood gushing from her nose so she pulls the latex glove off the ref so she could safely apply her submission

[Stockholm Syndrome]

There's a bit later where britt has blood gushing from her nose so she pulls the latex glove off the ref so she could safely apply her submission

Britt did a lot in that spot. The complaint asking for a glove was to not put blood in Shida's mouth, and then managed to shift her angle so Shida could roll her out of the submission without getting any blood on her.

Just on AEW in general Archer and Jake the Snake are fucking awesome. Jake is doing a good job of bigging Archer up as an unstoppable psychopath, and Archer is putting on what I would call 5 star squash matches.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

They will over the next few weeks, for obvious reasons.

They can do prerecorded matches without it being cinematic, which they really should do. Leave it for big matches with big stars (especially those who cannot work well, like Taker)

[Something Worse]

They can do prerecorded matches without it being cinematic, which they really should do. Leave it for big matches with big stars (especially those who cannot work well, like Taker)

Isn't baldybeard vs the other guy their biggest possible match in NXT?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Isn't baldybeard vs the other guy their biggest possible match in NXT?

It is for NXT, but I mean save these for Undertaker, Cena, HHH, Shawn Michaels, Edge even, etc.

Not the biggest guys on the 3rd brand, the biggest people in the entire industry, who can still somewhat go. Especially as Gargano and Ciampa can work, they are good wrestlers, but terrible actors.

They didn't need to do it, and it took away from it all, with melodramatic acting shouting out the themes of the feud (in some cases literally) in case you didn't get it

[Something Worse]

It is for NXT, but I mean save these for Undertaker, Cena, HHH, Shawn Michaels, Edge even, etc.

Not the biggest guys on the 3rd brand, the biggest people in the entire industry, who can still somewhat go. Especially as Gargano and Ciampa can work, they are good wrestlers, but terrible actors.

They didn't need to do it, and it took away from it all, with melodramatic acting shouting out the themes of the feud (in some cases literally) in case you didn't get it

I think the entire concept is shit and I wish they wouldn't do it at all, but I can see that one match in particular getting the treatment. It's their big blow-off match and without a crowd, is a good way of assigning importance to it.

[stevieG786]

Just been rewatching some old classing, and damn Rock vs Hogan - Mania 17 was great, that atmosphere is on a whole different level.

It’s a shame they never did Austin vs Hogan as that would have been a dream match too but their first choice in Rock/Hogan was definitely the right choice.

[S]

Just been rewatching some old classing, and damn Rock vs Hogan - Mania 17 was great, that atmosphere is on a whole different level.

It’s a shame they never did Austin vs Hogan as that would have been a dream match too but their first choice in Rock/Hogan was definitely the right choice.

Is it me or is there something different about the camera for that match? I don't know why, but it looks as though it's filmed at quite a low level. It makes Rock and Hogan look even bigger, which really adds to the epic feeling of the match. I'm probably imagining all of this but it always looks a little different.

[CornerFlag]

The Revival just got released by WWE.  Should be an interesting pick-up by AEW.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Is it me or is there something different about the camera for that match? I don't know why, but it looks as though it's filmed at quite a low level. It makes Rock and Hogan look even bigger, which really adds to the epic feeling of the match. I'm probably imagining all of this but it always looks a little different.

I think it is maybe the set up in Toronto Skydome. Like at the new Tottenham stadium the camera is a lot lower because of how the stadium is built

[Stockholm Syndrome]

The Revival just got released by WWE.  Should be an interesting pick-up by AEW.

The Bucks have wanted to wrestle them for years, they are going to throw money at them.

Already got an amazing tag division so they should fit right in.