Author Topic: Wrestling Thread (AEW, NJPW, WWE, etc) (*) (Read 469601 times)

tubby · « **Reply #1480 on:** March 30, 2020, 11:51:39 am »

So many amazing options:

Austin vs Punk
Vader vs Lesnar
Bryan vs Michaels
Angle vs Macho
Perfect vs Styles

You can mix and match all of the above.

Davidbowie · « **Reply #1481 on:** March 30, 2020, 11:58:54 am »

Quote from: XabiArt on March 30, 2020, 11:44:07 am

You could do an interesting angle between Booker T and Triple H, include Flair in there ringside as well.

Have Booker booked as the underdog, play on his upbringing and his past with heavy hints towards his race, then the two rich white men squash him anyway.

Davidbowie · « **Reply #1482 on:** March 30, 2020, 11:59:57 am »

Quote from: Stubby! on March 30, 2020, 11:51:39 am

So many amazing options:

Austin vs Punk
Vader vs Lesnar
Bryan vs Michaels
Angle vs Macho
Perfect vs Styles

You can mix and match all of the above.

Yes, Vader vs Lesnar would be one I'd like to see, I'd add that to my PPV.

paulrazor · « **Reply #1483 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:15:43 pm »

eddie guerrero vs ric flair

two awesome cheats

ricky steamboat vs owen hart

mentioned on last page a struggle to get hhh and ddp on the card, id have them face each other

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #1484 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:19:09 pm »

Peak Macho Man vs HBK is one I'd love to watch

tubby · « **Reply #1485 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:56:15 pm »

Quote from: ScouserAtHeart on March 30, 2020, 12:19:09 pm

Peak Macho Man vs HBK is one I'd love to watch

I remember watching a mid-90s(?) match between the two and being surprised that Michaels was bigger than Macho. Just shows how Macho was really larger than life in everything he did.

Samie · « **Reply #1486 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:57:07 pm »

Kurt Angle vs Bret Hart in an Iron Man match would be awesome.

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #1487 on:** March 30, 2020, 01:43:00 pm »

Mine was always Shawn Michaels v Eddie Guerrero! Two babyfaces with huge heel tendancies, would've had the crowd eating out of their hands like Hogan v Rock

kloppagetime · « **Reply #1488 on:** March 30, 2020, 01:49:47 pm »

A few of mine would of been

Cactus Jack vs Jon Moxley hardcore match
Owen Hart vs Eddie Guerrero
Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle
Heel John Cena vs Stone Cold
Sting vs Shawn Michaels
Razor Ramon vs The Rock

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #1489 on:** March 30, 2020, 03:14:54 pm »

Quote from: Stubby! on March 30, 2020, 12:56:15 pm

I remember watching a mid-90s(?) match between the two and being surprised that Michaels was bigger than Macho. Just shows how Macho was really larger than life in everything he did.

I think that was 92 or 93 in the UK?

Yeah, HBK was not naturally buffed up, let's just say

Tonyh8su · « **Reply #1490 on:** March 30, 2020, 06:54:23 pm »

Quote from: ScouserAtHeart on March 30, 2020, 03:14:54 pm

I think that was 92 or 93 in the UK?

Yeah, HBK was not naturally buffed up, let's just say

Wasn't this is his early 90s heel run where he was about 240 and gassed up to his eyeballs? Never suited him. He's deceptively tall thought isn't he? 6'1 maybe? And you'd assume he's under 6, maybe I'm wrong.

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #1491 on:** March 30, 2020, 07:08:59 pm »

Shawn was fairly brawny when he was in the Rockers, wasn't he? I don't think he slimmed down until he was on the coke and painkiller diet toward the middle of the 90's.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #1492 on:** March 30, 2020, 07:13:58 pm »

More modern but a CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan match with a 6 month lead in and booking would have been amazing.

mkferdy · « **Reply #1493 on:** March 30, 2020, 11:05:14 pm »

Gonna mix this up with some of the worst possible matches.

Giant González vs Great Khali iron man match
Pappa Shango vs The boogie Man
Yokozuna vs Viscera ladder match
Warlord vs Chris masters
Max moon vs kiss demon vs Brutus the Barber beefcake.

There really has been some awful gimmicks down the years.

wampa1 · « **Reply #1494 on:** March 30, 2020, 11:38:10 pm »

Quote from: ScouserAtHeart on March 30, 2020, 12:19:09 pm

Peak Macho Man vs HBK is one I'd love to watch

For HBK, I'd go with The Rock.

Samie · « **Reply #1495 on:** March 31, 2020, 12:50:46 am »

Quote from: mkferdy on March 30, 2020, 11:05:14 pm

Gonna mix this up with some of the worst possible matches.

Giant González vs Great Khali iron man match
Pappa Shango vs The boogie Man
Yokozuna vs Viscera ladder match
Warlord vs Chris masters
Max moon vs kiss demon vs Brutus the Barber beefcake.

There really has been some awful gimmicks down the years.

The Big GG would win that one easily 1-0 after 59 minutes have passed.

Samie · « **Reply #1496 on:** March 31, 2020, 12:51:25 am »

I LOVE GIANT GONZALEZ! THE UNDERTAKER DIDN'T BEAT HIM THIS SO CALLED "STREAK" ENDED AT WRESTLEMANIA IX.

ScouserAtHeart · « **Reply #1497 on:** March 31, 2020, 05:20:56 am »

Quote from: mkferdy on March 30, 2020, 11:05:14 pm

Gonna mix this up with some of the worst possible matches.

Giant González vs Great Khali iron man match
Pappa Shango vs The boogie Man
Yokozuna vs Viscera ladder match
Warlord vs Chris masters
Max moon vs kiss demon vs Brutus the Barber beefcake.

There really has been some awful gimmicks down the years.

Ralphus vs Gilberg

Riquende · « **Reply #1498 on:** March 31, 2020, 08:05:46 am »

Quote from: mkferdy on March 30, 2020, 11:05:14 pm

Gonna mix this up with some of the worst possible matches.

Giant González vs Great Khali iron man match
Pappa Shango vs The boogie Man
Yokozuna vs Viscera ladder match
Warlord vs Chris masters
Max moon vs kiss demon vs Brutus the Barber beefcake.

There really has been some awful gimmicks down the years.

What's wrong with Brutus? It was a nickname he was given because he did the deed after someone lost a hair vs hair match (not even to him). Ed Leslie himself has had far worse gimmicks.

But here's one for your event:

The Genius vs The Librarian

Riquende · « **Reply #1499 on:** March 31, 2020, 08:55:22 am »

AEW midcard title announced - the TNT championship. 8 wrestlers to compete, the first 4 announced on Dark (so sometime between midnight and 1am tonight) and the other 4 announced on Dynamite this week.

Tony Schiavone said "a new champion for a new league", so presumably there'll be some sort of qualifying criteria (usually weight but who knows) for the 'league' to prevent the criticism of asking why guys who are nowhere near the top of the rankings are competing for a belt.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #1500 on:** March 31, 2020, 09:32:06 am »

Got to give WWE credit, their on the fly booking for Mania is absolutely bonkers. Austin Theory replacing Andrade in the tag title match because... why not! And he's getting loads of flak online for failing to catch one of the Street Profits on Raw last night when he leapt over the top rope.

Mania will probably be a train wreck, but it'll certainly be remembered. I'm completely fine with it going ahead, vast majority of matches are uninspiring and who really cares if they're without a crowd. Only ones I wish they pulled were Edge/Orton and Brock/Drew. First has been a brilliant feud and deserves a crowd, and if Drew's going over Brock then you'd want to see him with the fans cheering. Zayn/Bryan could have been a great Mania match if given time too.

ToneLa · « **Reply #1501 on:** March 31, 2020, 10:50:10 am »

Quote from: mkferdy on March 30, 2020, 11:05:14 pm

Gonna mix this up with some of the worst possible matches.

Giant González vs Great Khali iron man match

Linda McMahon & Steph McMahon vs Bruiser Brody & New Jack in a last person standing match

CornerFlag · « **Reply #1502 on:** March 31, 2020, 11:17:31 am »

Quote from: mkferdy on March 30, 2020, 11:05:14 pm

Gonna mix this up with some of the worst possible matches.

Giant González vs Great Khali iron man match
Pappa Shango vs The boogie Man
Yokozuna vs Viscera ladder match
Warlord vs Chris masters
Max moon vs kiss demon vs Brutus the Barber beefcake.

There really has been some awful gimmicks down the years.

Loch Ness/Giant Haystacks vs. Yokozuna
Nathan Jones vs. Giant Gonzalez
Jackie Gayda vs. Cameron
Boogeyman vs. Seven
New Jack vs. Nicholas

Davidbowie · « **Reply #1503 on:** March 31, 2020, 11:32:27 am »

I put HBK vs The Rock on my PPV as I think that would have been great to see, even as a one off.

From what I've gathered, The Rock had no interest in ever working with Michaels allegedly due to HBK disrespecting The Rock's grandmother one time or something along those lines?

The Rock vs Macho Man is another one I'd have liked to have seen and there's an interview somewhere around 2000/01 where Savage shows interest in coming back to the WWF and he speaks positively about The Rock.. alas it was not meant to be.

Elzar · « **Reply #1504 on:** March 31, 2020, 11:34:48 am »

Lucha Bros vs Peak Hardy Boys

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #1505 on:** March 31, 2020, 11:35:18 am »

Quote from: CornerFlag on March 31, 2020, 11:17:31 am

Loch Ness/Giant Haystacks vs. Yokozuna
Nathan Jones vs. Giant Gonzalez
Jackie Gayda vs. Cameron
Boogeyman vs. Seven
New Jack vs. Nicholas

Surely, Seven vs Nicholas would be the nightmare match.

Samie · « **Reply #1506 on:** March 31, 2020, 01:03:12 pm »

So we're now getting "Ghost Rider" Undertaker, a hybrid of the American Badass and Deadman gimmicks?

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #1507 on:** March 31, 2020, 04:52:53 pm »

Deadman gimmick has ran it's course, he should've returned as the American Badass against Cena at that New Orleans Wrestlemania (damn you Vince for removing numbers from the PPV title!)

Samie · « **Reply #1508 on:** March 31, 2020, 04:54:50 pm »

The American Badass gimmick wasn't popular though. There's a reason he went back to the "Deadman" gimmick.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #1509 on:** March 31, 2020, 04:57:11 pm »

Quote from: Davidbowie on March 31, 2020, 11:32:27 am

I put HBK vs The Rock on my PPV as I think that would have been great to see, even as a one off.

From what I've gathered, The Rock had no interest in ever working with Michaels allegedly due to HBK disrespecting The Rock's grandmother one time or something along those lines?

The Rock vs Macho Man is another one I'd have liked to have seen and there's an interview somewhere around 2000/01 where Savage shows interest in coming back to the WWF and he speaks positively about The Rock.. alas it was not meant to be.

He did name Shawn Michaels at the Hall of Fame 2008 as one of the wrestlers he would've loved to faced. Shame it never happened

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #1510 on:** March 31, 2020, 04:58:26 pm »

Quote from: Samie on March 31, 2020, 04:54:50 pm

The American Badass gimmick wasn't popular though. There's a reason he went back to the "Deadman" gimmick.

It's like Marmite, I personally loved it. Deadman character is great but he's been doing it for 16 years straight now. Plus he doesn't really look that scary anymore

mkferdy · « **Reply #1511 on:** March 31, 2020, 10:42:05 pm »

Quote from: Sheer Magnetism on March 31, 2020, 11:35:18 am

Surely, Seven vs Nicholas would be the nightmare match.

Ha love that.

Undertaker vs The Yeti in a buried alive match.
Bastion Booger vs Giant Silva Golga
Doink the clown vs the insane clown posse house of mirrors match.
Pete Gas vs Kerwin White

mkferdy · « **Reply #1512 on:** March 31, 2020, 10:43:27 pm »

Quote from: Riquende on March 31, 2020, 08:05:46 am

What's wrong with Brutus? It was a nickname he was given because he did the deed after someone lost a hair vs hair match (not even to him). Ed Leslie himself has had far worse gimmicks.

But here's one for your event:

The Genius vs The Librarian

Haha good point I’ll leave Brutus alone and raise you the zodiac

stevieG786 · « **Reply #1513 on:** April 1, 2020, 01:16:02 am »

Quote from: Davidbowie on March 31, 2020, 11:32:27 am

I put HBK vs The Rock on my PPV as I think that would have been great to see, even as a one off.

From what I've gathered, The Rock had no interest in ever working with Michaels allegedly due to HBK disrespecting The Rock's grandmother one time or something along those lines?

The Rock vs Macho Man is another one I'd have liked to have seen and there's an interview somewhere around 2000/01 where Savage shows interest in coming back to the WWF and he speaks positively about The Rock.. alas it was not meant to be.

Shawn and HHH were always jealous of Rock and Austin and tried to sabotage their pushes (rock at Mania 15) not t mention HBK was a jerk to Rock’s grandma so The Rock never wanted to work with him

Then weirdly enough, at the HOF 2008 Rock named HBK as the one man he would have loved to wrestle (rumour was HBK apologised and made up with Rock’s grandma, he was sat with her during the HOF speech)

stevieG786 · « **Reply #1514 on:** April 1, 2020, 01:26:30 am »

My dream card of matches that never happened

The Rock vs Shawn Michaels - WWE world heavyweight championship

Steve Austin vs Hulk Hogan - icon vs icon 2

Bret Hart vs Chris Jericho - Submission match

The Undertaker vs Sting

Ric Flair vs The Ultimate warrior (I know they wrestled on House show, but damn can’t believe these two didn’t have a proper televised match)

John Cena vs Goldberg

Randy Savage vs Kurt Angle

Daniel Bryan vs Chris Benoit

Winners in bold

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #1515 on:** April 1, 2020, 02:02:08 am »

This is going to be an absolute shitshow. I know people are self-isolating but what, they couldn't even put music behind a pre-recorded promo they did in the back? Looks cheap and indie as hell. Undertaker's wife? Why?

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Re4nmf-a1S4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Re4nmf-a1S4</a>

There are a few interesting looking matches (Rollins/Owens, Zayn/Bryan, Lynch/Baszler, the Firefly Funhouse match) but this might be the first Wrestlemania in years I don't even tune in for and I honestly can't understand why they haven't postponed. The results will probably be leaked out before the weekend either way. Some of the promos have been very good this year, but taking away the advantage of the big arenas and crowds has put WWE on the same footing as AEW the past two or three weeks and it really hasn't come out well.

Riquende · « **Reply #1516 on:** April 1, 2020, 08:14:21 am »

First half of AEW's TNT title tournament brackets have been revealed:

Shawn Spears vs Cody

Sammy Guevara vs Darby Allin

A few people thought they'd push both Sammy/Darby to the final after their excellent match at the last PPV but it's a QF match. Somewhat surprised to see Cody there as it seems a midcard title is 'beneath' him but he is banned from competing for the main belt so it makes sense. Plus he had that very brief thing with Spears last summer.

You could make a decent semi from almost any pair (the only one I don't think we'll see is Spears/Guevara both through).

The final match is at the Double or Nothing PPV, and we'll find out the other 4 guy on Dynamite later tonight/tomorrow if you're downloading/Saturday if you watch the cropped broadcast on ITV.

Samie · « **Reply #1517 on:** April 1, 2020, 01:24:37 pm »

So this is their Intercontinental Title?

Riquende · « **Reply #1518 on:** April 1, 2020, 04:25:10 pm »

Quote from: Samie on April 1, 2020, 01:24:37 pm

So this is their Intercontinental Title?

I suppose so, though I expect there to be some qualifying criteria to explain why guys who are nowhere near the ranked top 5 are challenging for a title. Schiavone said in the announcement it was a 'new title for a new league'. Cody and Spears aren't particularly 'lightweight' for AEW so I'm not sure what they'll go with.

Something Worse · « **Reply #1519 on:** April 1, 2020, 04:26:41 pm »

Quote from: Riquende on April 1, 2020, 04:25:10 pm

I suppose so, though I expect there to be some qualifying criteria to explain why guys who are nowhere near the ranked top 5 are challenging for a title. Schiavone said in the announcement it was a 'new title for a new league'. Cody and Spears aren't particularly 'lightweight' for AEW so I'm not sure what they'll go with.

None of that stuff ever mattered, it was just pandering