Author Topic: Liverpool v Manchester United - Anfield (Read 42893 times)

Pelé as a Comedian · « **Reply #240 on:** October 10, 2016, 10:45:43 pm »

well, heres hoping a well rested Rooney starts for the mancs. he might actually keep running till halftime what with him getting 2 weeks rest.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #241 on:** October 10, 2016, 11:27:27 pm »

Lallana may still be fit enough to start, which would leave us with Adam and Hendo, and perhaps either Can coming in or coutinho dropping into midfield. We have options thankfully

4pool · « **Reply #242 on:** October 10, 2016, 11:50:17 pm »

Grujic in for Gini if necessary

OOS · « **Reply #243 on:** October 10, 2016, 11:56:56 pm »

Can is the perfect fill in for Wijnaldum.

Warks Moustache · « **Reply #244 on:** October 10, 2016, 11:58:12 pm »

Quote from: OOS on October 10, 2016, 11:56:56 pm

Can is the perfect fill in for Wijnaldum.

I wonder if the training Can has done the past 2 weeks is enough to get him up to speed. Wouldn't be against seeing Grujic though...

Tonyh8su · « **Reply #245 on:** October 11, 2016, 12:45:47 am »

Mancunian Anthony Taylor will be the referee.

Number 7 · « **Reply #246 on:** October 11, 2016, 12:47:37 am »

Quote from: Warks Moustache on October 10, 2016, 11:58:12 pm

I wonder if the training Can has done the past 2 weeks is enough to get him up to speed. Wouldn't be against seeing Grujic though...

He's been training for more than 2 weeks. He's made sub appearances against Hull and Swansea.

It will likely be a midfield of Hendo, Can and Coutinho. Firmino, Mané and Sturridge front 3. However, we'll have to hope 4 of those come back unscathed from tomorrow's matches.

Fluke · « **Reply #247 on:** October 11, 2016, 01:34:40 am »

The more I think about it, I'd have Lucas in regardless of how fit Can is. Lucas is probably our best defensive header and you can bet we will be facing aerial balls to Ibra and Fellaini. Especially with Karius still bedding in, Lucas could be the key player of the match.

Fiasco · « **Reply #248 on:** October 11, 2016, 01:41:14 am »

Quote from: Fluke on October 11, 2016, 01:34:40 am

The more I think about it, I'd have Lucas in regardless of how fit Can is. Lucas is probably our best defensive header and you can bet we will be facing aerial balls to Ibra and Fellaini. Especially with Karius still bedding in, Lucas could be the key player of the match.

You could well be right. Personally I think Can will start and he could well get his place back as he is more than good enough to do so. However Lucas is good in the air considering he isn't overly tall and has a lot of experience in big games. He's also a very efficient passer.

Either way I think we'll be fine.

Hij · « **Reply #249 on:** October 11, 2016, 02:31:40 am »

Let's not fuck around. Let's twat these horrible entitled gang of shithouse wankers. Of all the games against Man United we've ever played this is the biggest for me apart from the 96 cup final and the 08/09 4-1 thrashing. Twat them and go 6 points clear of them, put them under pressure and be in the title race. Or lose and be level on points with them and miles behind City presumably.

Red men, this is the derby, this is the one you need to win.

farawayred · « **Reply #250 on:** October 11, 2016, 02:47:34 am »

OK. I'm taking vacation, going hiking to the fucking Sierras, and when I get back, this game better be ready to roll. Fuck international breaks!...

Hij · « **Reply #251 on:** October 11, 2016, 02:49:27 am »

I'm telling you.

Win this one, and let's all get aboard the party bus. No-one wants to dare think it, or say it out loud so I will.

Win this one, and we are 100% in this title race with Jurgen Klopp's tricky reds.

Edit: Even if we fall short, then top four is in range, and those magical Champions League nights are coming back. I believe in Klopp and these gang of fantastic lads.

Number 7 · « **Reply #252 on:** October 11, 2016, 03:24:17 am »

Quote from: Fiasco on October 11, 2016, 01:41:14 am

You could well be right. Personally I think Can will start and he could well get his place back as he is more than good enough to do so. However Lucas is good in the air considering he isn't overly tall and has a lot of experience in big games. He's also a very efficient passer.

Either way I think we'll be fine.

Lucas could play CB too as Lovren has a groin injury.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #253 on:** October 11, 2016, 03:25:54 am »

Quote from: Number 7 on October 11, 2016, 03:24:17 am

Lucas could play CB too as Lovren has a groin injury.

Lucas is good in the air, but against Ibrahimovic, at CB, that is going to be an issue. A major one if it comes to that. I don't think that's going to happen, because if Lovren doesn't play, Klavan will.

Number 7 · « **Reply #254 on:** October 11, 2016, 03:31:23 am »

Quote from: farawayred on October 11, 2016, 02:47:34 am

OK. I'm taking vacation, going hiking to the fucking Sierras, and when I get back, this game better be ready to roll. Fuck international breaks!...

17 days between games is kind of preposterous if you think about it, but it is what it is. And the next one is less than a month away. Yep! I suppose the one siliver lining this time around is the Monday game which gives players an extra 2 days rest. Most notably it will help Coutinho and Firmino coming back from a long trek. Fingers crossed they get through fine in tomorrow's game. Cannot afford any more injuries, especially to those two and Hendo. If Hendo got injured I think we'd be in trouble with the injuries already in midfield, and he's been a key player for us this season if not our best.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #255 on:** October 11, 2016, 03:43:14 am »

Quote from: Number 7 on October 11, 2016, 03:24:17 am

Lucas could play CB too as Lovren has a groin injury.

If Lovren is unavailable I'm pretty sure Klavan would start.

IzeOfAnfield · « **Reply #256 on:** October 11, 2016, 04:28:19 am »

Great, so Wijnaldum is for sure not featuring, and now maybe Lovren? I know this ain't happening but I'd love to see Sakho try to redeem himself against Ibra. Klavan has his upside in a few departments over Sakho, but I think the way to control Ibra is to match his physicality, which Sakho is more suited for.

Fully expecting Klavan if Lovren can't go though.

Fiasco · « **Reply #257 on:** October 11, 2016, 04:37:29 am »

Quote from: IzeOfAnfield on October 11, 2016, 04:28:19 am

Great, so Wijnaldum is for sure not featuring, and now maybe Lovren? I know this ain't happening but I'd love to see Sakho try to redeem himself against Ibra. Klavan has his upside in a few departments over Sakho, but I think the way to control Ibra is to match his physicality, which Sakho is more suited for.

Fully expecting Klavan if Lovren can't go though.

I'm pretty certain Sakho will get a chance to redeem himself at some point this season. For all his foolishness lately I think Klopp does rate him, both for his ability and his sheer passion. Sakho has brought a lot of the flak upon himself but he's not a devil. With that said, I doubt he'd be thrown back in against United in such a big game. He hasn't played competitively for 6 months and he won't be up to speed. He's well liked by the fans but his transgressions mean he's got a bit of making up to do and there are plenty of bigots out there who wouldn't give him a jot of credit when he built up a great partnership with Lovren towards the back end of last season. With everything that has happened those same fans would jump down his neck should he make the tiniest mistake against United.

Klavan will step in if Lovren doesn't play, but there might be a place for Sakho on the bench as Lucas will either start or be on the bench also as cover for Can in the middle (who might need replacing after 70 minutes if he's not quite at 100 percent sharpness).

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #258 on:** October 11, 2016, 05:37:30 am »

This is another of those big tests for us. It's against one of our arch rivals. Who are very dangerous from set-pieces(something we haven't dealt with well so far). Just coming back from an International break. And it's at a point were rival fans said we'd start to drop away once we got a few injuries to key players. Let's prove all our doubters wrong and smash these mancs into oblivion.

harleydanger · « **Reply #259 on:** October 11, 2016, 07:14:22 am »

Quote from: Fluke on October 11, 2016, 01:34:40 am

The more I think about it, I'd have Lucas in regardless of how fit Can is. Lucas is probably our best defensive header and you can bet we will be facing aerial balls to Ibra and Fellaini. Especially with Karius still bedding in, Lucas could be the key player of the match.

This is correct. He is also the most experienced man at the club, and he's 'needless fouls in bad places' have saved god knows how many goals over the years, could use that smart head.

Roady · « **Reply #260 on:** October 11, 2016, 07:22:15 am »

Quote from: ZeusMetallica on October 10, 2016, 09:43:40 pm

What will Klopp's mood be for the derby?

Adventurous?

Firmino Sturridge Mane
Coutinho
Can Henderson

Or pessimistic/cautious:

Coutinho Firmino Mane
Can Lucas Henderson

*Option to bring Milner into midfield if we need a goal, with Moreno coming on to attack their right side.

Let's concentrate on the games we have before the Derby . This threads about a massive game under the floodlights at Anfield on Monday night against Manchester United

IzeOfAnfield · « **Reply #261 on:** October 11, 2016, 07:46:53 am »

Quote from: Fiasco on October 11, 2016, 04:37:29 am

I'm pretty certain Sakho will get a chance to redeem himself at some point this season. For all his foolishness lately I think Klopp does rate him, both for his ability and his sheer passion. Sakho has brought a lot of the flak upon himself but he's not a devil. With that said, I doubt he'd be thrown back in against United in such a big game. He hasn't played competitively for 6 months and he won't be up to speed. He's well liked by the fans but his transgressions mean he's got a bit of making up to do and there are plenty of bigots out there who wouldn't give him a jot of credit when he built up a great partnership with Lovren towards the back end of last season. With everything that has happened those same fans would jump down his neck should he make the tiniest mistake against United.

Klavan will step in if Lovren doesn't play, but there might be a place for Sakho on the bench as Lucas will either start or be on the bench also as cover for Can in the middle (who might need replacing after 70 minutes if he's not quite at 100 percent sharpness).

This would be great to see if Lovren can't go. I just feel bad for Sakho, because at his peak I think he's better than Lovren, and I think there's potential for a great partnership with Matip. Like you said though, he'll get his chance eventually.

redbyrdz · « **Reply #262 on:** October 11, 2016, 08:59:46 am »

Quote from: Hij on October 11, 2016, 02:31:40 am

Red men, this is the derby, this is the one you need to win.

No its not. The derby is against Everton.

Ciara (with a capital "C") · « **Reply #263 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:32:37 am »

Don't forget that some of those not on International duty have just played a behind closed doors game, so the likes of Can and Grujic should be ready to start the game if we need them.

I doubt Wjinaldum is making this game, so you would expect Can to come straight in alongside Henderson and Coutinho/Lallana.

Maybe this means we might see Ings on the bench for a game - I really hope so.

ZeusMetallica · « **Reply #264 on:** October 11, 2016, 09:54:50 am »

Quote from: Roady on October 11, 2016, 07:22:15 am

Let's concentrate on the games we have before the Derby . This threads about a massive game under the floodlights at Anfield on Monday night against Manchester United

A game against our biggest rivals isn't technically a derby as well? That was the point of my entire post, the match on Monday night.

Dench57 · « **Reply #265 on:** October 11, 2016, 10:04:09 am »

Be interested to see whether we bring in Lucas or Can for Wini. Can't see Grujic getting his first (?) start in this game.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #266 on:** October 11, 2016, 10:27:04 am »

You know something, I'll take a scrappy 1-0 win, in off someones testicles, for all I care.

If we can richly humiliate them as well, well that's just a bonus. The icing on the cake.

The 3 points is all I want. I think we have bigger fish to fry than just United, this season.

redbyrdz · « **Reply #267 on:** October 11, 2016, 10:28:17 am »

Quote from: ZeusMetallica on October 11, 2016, 09:54:50 am

A game against our biggest rivals isn't technically a derby as well? That was the point of my entire post, the match on Monday night.

No. The derby is against your closest neighbours, not necessarily your biggest rivals.

King Klopp. · « **Reply #268 on:** October 11, 2016, 10:49:29 am »

A midfield of Henderson, Emre and Coutinho. Quite funny anyone would be worried about that because if you had asked the fanbase to choose a 3 man midfield in the summer most would have chose that

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #269 on:** October 11, 2016, 10:49:43 am »

Let's win this derby and then the Christian Benteke and Martin Kelly derby at the end of the month.

CraigDS · « **Reply #270 on:** October 11, 2016, 10:51:07 am »

Quote from: ZeusMetallica on October 11, 2016, 09:54:50 am

A game against our biggest rivals isn't technically a derby as well? That was the point of my entire post, the match on Monday night.

That's not the definition of a derby game I grew up with.

SC04OCT · « **Reply #271 on:** October 11, 2016, 11:01:45 am »

I've seen/heard it called the north-west Derby many times.

cornelius · « **Reply #272 on:** October 11, 2016, 11:02:46 am »

Quote from: IzeOfAnfield on October 11, 2016, 04:28:19 am

Great, so Wijnaldum is for sure not featuring, and now maybe Lovren? I know this ain't happening but I'd love to see Sakho try to redeem himself against Ibra. Klavan has his upside in a few departments over Sakho, but I think the way to control Ibra is to match his physicality, which Sakho is more suited for.

Fully expecting Klavan if Lovren can't go though.

I wouldn't worry, keeper and back four will have fuck all to do in this one.

CraigDS · « **Reply #273 on:** October 11, 2016, 11:04:36 am »

Quote from: SC04OCT on October 11, 2016, 11:01:45 am

I've seen/heard it called the north-west Derby many times.

I've seen United fan's call us bin dippers many times, doesn't mean it's correct.

SC04OCT · « **Reply #274 on:** October 11, 2016, 11:05:00 am »

"Games between two rivals of close geographical proximity are usually called a local derby, or simply just derby (UK: /ˈdɑːrbi/; DAR-bee or US: /ˈdɜːrbi/; DER-bee); a sporting fixture between two teams from the same town, city or region"

Liverpool and United are in the same region. It's not actually wrong to call it a Derby game.