Author Topic: Man City 0-1 Liverpool: (Gerrard, pen) Half time........ (Read 122262 times)

-Q- · « **Reply #640 on:** January 9, 2012, 11:13:56 am »

Quote from: Armand9 on January 9, 2012, 07:02:10 am

Kompany, jay not red cards, good fucking tackles, wolve's guy not a red card clearly, lampard potential leg-breaker (ref bottled and gave yellow), cabaye potential leg breaker (not even a card), barton's head rub (red upheld after appeal) vs dempsey's (yellow - and much worse to me) and that's just a few over the last couple of games

Standard of refs this season is at all time low for me, pathetic, tackles will be fazed out of the game in years to come, it'll end up shadow play and fuckall contact.

If the wolve's red wasn't rescinded I can't see how Kompany has got a hope even tho it was a good tackle.

Good for us but one more nail in the coffin of our game, FA are fucking killing the sport (throw in the reduced ban for rooney for clear violent conduct after FA marches to FIFA with a group of lawyers and the game fucking stinks to high heaven when the muppets are involved).

Agree entirely.

All clubs should appeal for red card bans to be reduced to two games, on the basis of the FA's own appeal regarding Rooney's unprovoked violent kick at an opponent. How can the FA say with a straight face that Barton deserves a three game ban for... nothing after they appealed a three game ban for a blatant kick by Rooney...? #hypocrites

Sat1 · « **Reply #641 on:** January 9, 2012, 11:22:22 am »

I thought it was a red. But it wasnt as bad as the newcastle players challenge. Refs have to get their act together.

MiserableP15 · « **Reply #642 on:** January 9, 2012, 11:23:47 am »

Mancini said he'd appeal it (according to BBC), does that happen before or after the game on Wednesday? And if he loses could the ban then be increased to 5 games?

GBF · « **Reply #643 on:** January 9, 2012, 11:29:51 am »

Quote from: Stevo79 on January 9, 2012, 11:06:06 am

It's pretty simple for players, don't tackle ~~with both feet in the air and you've got a high chance of being ok.~~

corrected that for you

anfieldpurch · « **Reply #644 on:** January 9, 2012, 12:02:15 pm »

Quote from: MushyP15 on January 9, 2012, 11:23:47 am

Mancini said he'd appeal it (according to BBC), does that happen before or after the game on Wednesday? And if he loses could the ban then be increased to 5 games?

Think they need to announce the decision by Weds 12:00. Yeah He could get an extra game if the F.A deem it to be a frivolous appeal

Hymer Red · « **Reply #645 on:** January 9, 2012, 12:02:48 pm »

Ticker on BBC news says Mancini is saying Kompany only got sent off after pressure from Rooney lol Funny that after his card waving gesture the other night. What goes round comes around really quick for City. When do the other Mancs get theirs?

WOOLTONIAN · « **Reply #646 on:** January 9, 2012, 12:04:47 pm »

Cant wait, really up for this one. Only two sleeps to go

Aido LFC · « **Reply #647 on:** January 9, 2012, 12:05:53 pm »

he went in with 2 feet off the ground so he was always at risk doing it. It was a red card IMO but he'll appeal and it'll be rescinded because the FA want the semi final of the Carling Cup to have as many good players in it as possible. It's all about £££.

ThepepeReina · « **Reply #648 on:** January 9, 2012, 12:16:32 pm »

Fuck it, who cares if Kompany plays or not, we are good enough to beat these. Let the FA try to do us, and win the thing anyway.

stevied · « **Reply #649 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:21:20 pm »

Manchester City FC Vincent Kompany 08/01/2012 25/01/2012 Suspended from all first team football until the Club have completed 4 first team matches for a Sending Off in a match played on 08/01/2012.
unless they appeal he is banned as of today

rakey_lfc · « **Reply #650 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:26:08 pm »

Would the appeal delay the suspension? So they may appeal knowing they'd lose it, but just to keep him okay for wednesday?

brussels sprout · « **Reply #651 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:28:14 pm »

Quote from: Aido LFC on January 9, 2012, 12:05:53 pm

he went in with 2 feet off the ground so he was always at risk doing it. It was a red card IMO but he'll appeal and it'll be rescinded because the FA want the semi final of the Carling Cup to have as many good players in it as possible. It's all about £££.

Give that Uruguayan kid a runout then

thekitkatshuffler · « **Reply #652 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:28:58 pm »

Quote from: rakey_lfc on January 9, 2012, 01:26:08 pm

Would the appeal delay the suspension? So they may appeal knowing they'd lose it, but just to keep him okay for wednesday?

Given the possibility of getting an additional games suspension for doing that, I'd say they're unlikely to appeal in such a tactical manner.

-Q- · « **Reply #653 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:31:46 pm »

They have already appealed it.

Looking at the tackle, the law and the Milijas appeal - they have no basis to get it overturned. But who knows with the FA?

eirwen · « **Reply #654 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:34:03 pm »

There is no way the red card gets overturned.

Billman · « **Reply #655 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:38:32 pm »

According to city's own website "The FA have confirmed that a hearing will be held ahead of Wednesday evening’s Carling Cup semi-final first leg tie at home to Liverpool."

Trada · « **Reply #656 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:43:22 pm »

RobHarrisUK Rob Harris
ManCity lodges appeal against Kompany's 4-match ban following red card. Will be heard ahead of Wednesday's Liverpool match

Billman · « **Reply #657 on:** January 9, 2012, 01:47:27 pm »

Mark Ogden from the telegraph saying "Kompany appeal is fast-track, so it will be overturned or upheld by 6pm Tuesday."

Jersey · « **Reply #658 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:10:47 pm »

Great that it's on bbc, for once I can watch it on my telly instead of a stream/sopcast.

a glass of wine Sir? · « **Reply #659 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:11:35 pm »

I'm surprised they've appealed, if it isn't accepted, an extra game is added, so will miss both legs. Internally, I'd have thought City will be confident of a home win, so will be happy with his return for the second leg...but saying that, they haven't got Kolo and will be short at the back I reckon it will be overturned

stevied · « **Reply #660 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:12:40 pm »

Quote from: a glass of wine Sir? on January 9, 2012, 02:11:35 pm

I'm surprised they've appealed, if it isn't accepted, an extra game is added, so will miss both legs. Internally, I'd have thought City will be confident of a home win, so will be happy with his return for the second leg...but saying that, they haven't got Kolo and will be short at the back I reckon it will be overturned

4 game ban already and he misses both legs already it might go to 5 game ban if appeal rejected

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #661 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:19:22 pm »

Quote from: Stevo79 on January 9, 2012, 11:06:06 am

It's pretty simple for players, don't tackle with both feet in the air and you've got a high chance of being ok.

Its not that simple though is it, sometimes while tackling your feet will be off the ground. You know when your lunging our not, example Dirks against the shite a few years ago.

eirwen · « **Reply #662 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:19:48 pm »

Quote from: stevied on January 9, 2012, 02:12:40 pm

4 game ban already and he misses both legs already it might go to 5 game ban if appeal rejected

Is any appeal automatically frivolous or does it depend on FA?

a glass of wine Sir? · « **Reply #663 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:19:59 pm »

Quote from: stevied on January 9, 2012, 02:12:40 pm

4 game ban already and he misses both legs already it might go to 5 game ban if appeal rejected

ah yes of course, he received 1 extra due to his second straight red of the season, so it makes sense then why they are appealing

stevied · « **Reply #664 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:21:11 pm »

Quote from: eirwen on January 9, 2012, 02:19:48 pm

Is any appeal automatically frivolous or does it depend on FA?

Not sure but our friends at Lancaster gate will i am sure be fair

J-Mc- · « **Reply #665 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:34:39 pm »

Have a feeling it'll get overturned to be honest.

Watching it back, it didn't look that bad until the replays were saw.

He one the ball, IMO, that's what the appeal will be based on.

Thomas · « **Reply #666 on:** January 9, 2012, 02:38:35 pm »

in fairness it was never a red card, there isn't anything int he rules of the game stating you can't tackle with 2 feet. its the refs interpretation as to whether it was dangerous.

I suppose you could argue if Nani hadn't jumped out the way it could of been dangerous. very grey area.

Reminded me a bit of Gerrard in the 3rd round last season

gorgepir · « **Reply #667 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:04:46 pm »

His tackle was more dangerous than Spearing's clearance. Spearing cleared the ball, and way after his clearance hit the Fulham's player's outstretched leg trying to defend the clearance, and even though the Fulham's player was late to the ball Spearing was the one who committed the foul.

Compared to that a two legged tackle is going to be a red card, even when minimal contact.

But one thing I found interesting is this: "The FA have confirmed that a hearing will be held ahead of Wednesday evening's Carling Cup semi-final first leg at home to Liverpool."

My English is not that good, so that means they will make a decision before the Wednesdays game, right? And if the ruling is upheld, he will be banned for 4-5 games?

Chivasino · « **Reply #668 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:21:15 pm »

Quote from: J-Mc- on January 9, 2012, 02:34:39 pm

He one the ball, IMO, that's what the appeal will be based on.

Doubt it mate. The rules/guidelines mention nothing about winning the ball and I think they'll say he was off the ground with both feet, and therefore, the ban stands.

Camarero25 · « **Reply #669 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:21:45 pm »

If Miljas' red wasn't overturned, then Kompany's shouldn't be. Neither was a red, for me, though.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #670 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:31:19 pm »

Quote from: Camarero25 on January 9, 2012, 03:21:45 pm

If Miljas' red wasn't overturned, then Kompany's shouldn't be. Neither was a red, for me, though.

Correct.

Miljas, one footed, not off the deck.

It was a far tamer tackle..

If the Miljas one wasn't overturned, then Kompany's won't be.

J-Mc- · « **Reply #671 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:32:17 pm »

Quote from: Chivasino on January 9, 2012, 03:21:15 pm

Doubt it mate. The rules/guidelines mention nothing about winning the ball and I think they'll say he was off the ground with both feet, and therefore, the ban stands.

It's the FA though mate, anything's possible.

UntouchableLuis · « **Reply #672 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:33:21 pm »

I'd go with:

------------------------Reina-----------------------------

--Kelly--------Skrtel------------Agger-------------Enrique-------------

--------------------Henderson---Spearing-------------------------------

--------Downing---------------Gerrard-----------------Bellamy----------

--------------------------------Carroll-------------------------------------------

Subs: Doni, Carra, Johnson, Kuyt, Maxi, Jonjo, Adam

Camarero25 · « **Reply #673 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:39:00 pm »

Is Downing available to play?

1770ben · « **Reply #674 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:40:56 pm »

Quote from: Stevo79 on January 9, 2012, 11:06:06 am

It's pretty simple for players, don't tackle with both feet in the air and you've got a high chance of being ok.

cant get more straight forward than this. From most tv angles it DID look harsh, but certainly from one it looked quite nasty.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #675 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:45:12 pm »

Quote from: Camarero25 on January 9, 2012, 03:39:00 pm

Is Downing available to play?

Yes. Why wouldn't he be?

It's not like man in the iron mask, you know.

If you are arrested, they don't put you in chains in the dungeon untill your trial.

stevied · « **Reply #676 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:46:11 pm »

The Football Association says Manchester City's appeal against Vincent Kompany's red card is claiming wrongful dismissal and will be heard on Tuesday. A result is expected on Tuesday afternoon. For the ban to be overturned, it would have to be proved the referee made an obvious error. If City are unsuccessful, the FA could technically extend the ban to five matches should it deem the appeal had no prospect of success, although that is thought unlikely in this case.

tommy LFC · « **Reply #677 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:49:02 pm »

So if Kompany and Toure are out who do City play alongside Lescott? Maybe move Richards in there, or throw that Serbian kid in? I hope Andy Carroll is licking his lips at those pairings, I know Bellamy will be!!

Camarero25 · « **Reply #678 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:50:50 pm »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on January 9, 2012, 03:45:12 pm

Yes. Why wouldn't he be?

It's not like man in the iron mask, you know.

If you are arrested, they don't put you in chains in the dungeon untill your trial.

Just asking. Thanks for the kind response.

RossoBianchi · « **Reply #679 on:** January 9, 2012, 03:51:23 pm »

Silva's a major doubt.

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=244564