Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread

[lfcmaster]

we were the team that looked like winning with 10 minutes to go

good performances from spearing, kelly, el zhar, pacheco, en gog

vincent and victor palsson also showed good touches when comming on

we need to give pacheco some game time in the first team to see if he can provide the creative spark we are missing

[JoeTwerp]

I was hoping that we would have brought Antwi on for Degen and moved Kelly out to the right, just so he could show off his versatility

[Mr_Morosoph]

do like the look of Palsson and for whoever it was that asked I believe his father is from Portugal

N'Gog might not look very good but at least he wasn't invisible like Simon.

Once we get Huth or San Jose back, I think Palsson and Spearing together could run a show quite nicely with Pacheco operating in the hole behind somebody, maybe Eccleston?

Simon was probably invisible to you because his strike partner barely gave him a touch. When Simon got the ball he done the sensible thing and layed the ball off to others in better positions whereas N'gog wanted to do everything himself and usually lost the ball. Of course he's going to look "busier"

[Passmaster Molby]

Spearing is practically smashing the first team door down now, looks such a level headed and composed player. Really does deserve a crack in the first team considering some of the dross being served up by other first team players recently.

Would have no fear of Spearing struggling at the top level in all honesty, and I think he is the type of player to thrive when surrounded by better players.

[JoeTwerp]

Spearing is practically smashing the first team door down now, looks such a level headed and composed player. Really does deserve a crack in the first team considering some of the dross being served up by other first team players recently.

Would have no fear of Spearing struggling at the top level in all honesty, and I think he is the type of player to thrive when surrounded by better players.

where would he play? ahead of Alonso or Mascherano?

[mariov77]

Simon was probably invisible to you because his strike partner barely gave him a touch. When Simon got the ball he done the sensible thing and layed the ball off to others in better positions whereas N'gog wanted to do everything himself and usually lost the ball. Of course he's going to look "busier"

I agree . Ngo was at the wrong places and keep losing the ball

[lfcmaster]

where would he play? ahead of Alonso or Mascherano?

lucas

[MagicB8all]

So is N'gog improving ?

[Passmaster Molby]

where would he play? ahead of Alonso or Mascherano?

They don't start every match do they? Stick him on the bench and give him 15-20 minute cameo's to start with and then lets see how he does. I think he will thrive in that environment playing with the top lads, where some young lads struggle. Lucas has been given ample opportunities to stake a claim for first team football, and Spearing is more than deserving of a similar opportunity.

[lfcmaster]

So is N'gog improving ?

i am a big fan of ngog and think he has done well in the last 2 reserve games
hopefully he will be sub on sunday and next wednesday

[whtwht]

Spearing is practically smashing the first team door down now, looks such a level headed and composed player. Really does deserve a crack in the first team considering some of the dross being served up by other first team players recently.

Would have no fear of Spearing struggling at the top level in all honesty, and I think he is the type of player to thrive when surrounded by better players.

I truly believe given the chance he'd make it in the 1st team , hopefully alongside Alonso and Gerrard in Midfield ( when Masch is resting/Injured)

[Mr_Morosoph]

So is N'gog improving ?

Doesn't look that way to me, others would disagree because he scored twice last week. Nemeth is a much better all-round player than him in my opinion.

[LFCfan4Life]

or because he's actually looking better there - he can provide from deep better than anyone at that level

i think he will before play just behind the striker but putting him in midfield is a great way to get him stronger + sharper quicker

[T-Bone]

So we've got a right-sided Aurelio as well. Great!

[hassinator]

El Zhar was good but no end product, Ngog got into some promising postions but again, no finish. Weijl hit a couple of good passes when he came on, didn't see enough of Palsson, er, I mean Victor Palsson ( ) to be able to make a judgement.

why 'again no finish'?  he scored two last time out, didn't he?

[El_Macca_17]

I was comparing him to El Zhar.

[hassinator]

Doesn't look that way to me, others would disagree because he scored twice last week. Nemeth is a much better all-round player than him in my opinion.

i think nemeth is more of a number 10 and n'gog a number 9 - different types of strikers and to be fair to n'gog nemeth didn't look half as good in the last game though i know he is coming back from injury.

or was coming back from injury until some qpr twat injured him again.

[hassinator]

I was comparing him to El Zhar.

furry muff sir

[Mr_Morosoph]

i think nemeth is more of a number 10 and n'gog a number 9 - different types of strikers and to be fair to n'gog nemeth didn't look half as good in the last game though i know he is coming back from injury.

or was coming back from injury until some qpr twat injured him again.

Nemeth is better outside the box and he's a much better finisher than N'gog aswell, I'm not even going to say "in my opinion" this time in the following sentence. Nemeth IS a much better all-round player than N'gog.

[El_Macca_17]

furry muff sir

Oh, go on then.

[hassinator]

Nemeth is better outside the box and he's a much better finisher than N'gog aswell, I'm not even going to say "in my opinion" this time in the following sentence. Nemeth IS a much better all-round player than N'gog.

i'm not going to argue about that but i refer the honorable member to my previous answer:  nemeth is a number 10 and n'gog is a number 9

[LFCfan4Life]

i'm not going to argue about that but i refer the honorable member to my previous answer:  nemeth is a number 10 and n'gog is a number 9

is ngog good enough to be in our future starting line?

are nemeth and pacheco? if you ask me these two look like a much much more exciting number 9+10 pairing

sorry if i sound like the voyeur but if only these two could have got some games for us in the Carling cup etc

[Adeemo]

are nemeth and pacheco? if you ask me these two look like a much much more exciting number 9+10 pairing

For me they're both number 10s. Nemeth has progressed further than Pacheco at the moment, and whilst I believe they will both make it here, Pacheco looks like he could possibly become 1 of the very best footballers on the planet in 4 or 5 years.

[rowan_d]

How good is coverage for reserve games on LFCTV? Is it all reserve games or just home/selected games? Thinking of getting Setanta.

[TK]

How good is coverage for reserve games on LFCTV? Is it all reserve games or just home/selected games? Thinking of getting Setanta.

they show most of the ressies games, what they dont cover live there is always a weekly round up so you need not miss any of the highlights.

Youth is equally well covered.

I quite like Setanta to be honest - it has an ammaturosh feel over sky, but then they really dont have the clear bias of Sky.

But they also show UFC - winner for me.

Good value for a tenner - much better than Sly.

imo

[rocco]

degen off injured

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[Manila Kop]

Hungarian striker Krisztian Nemeth will undergo an operation after fracturing a cheekbone while making his debut for Blackpool in their 3-0 defeat to Queens Park Rangers on Tuesday night.

Reserve forward Nemeth started a one-month loan stint with the Coca-Cola Championship outfit on January 26, but will now return to Liverpool and is expected to be sidelined for six weeks.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2009/01/30/we-have-a-fantastic-opportunity-rafa-benitez-64375-22815474/2/

[hassinator]

is ngog good enough to be in our future starting line?

are nemeth and pacheco? if you ask me these two look like a much much more exciting number 9+10 pairing

sorry if i sound like the voyeur but if only these two could have got some games for us in the Carling cup etc

well n'gog has been in our starting line up and also for full a season at paris st germain.

both nemeth and pacheco are outstanding prospects but we've yet to see them do it for the first team excluding pre-season.

if we're using a crystal ball why not all three with pacheco at the tip of a midfield diamond and n'gog/nemeth up front?

[lamonti]

where would he play? ahead of Alonso or Mascherano?

Probably not one of them.... but don't we have another midfielder.... quiet game during the week... looks a bit like Craig Bellamy in a wig?

[scatman]

^of course, cos Mascherano is playing much better then Lucas, I mean he's having a great season, been really leading our title charge :|

[JoeTwerp]

For me they're both number 10s. Nemeth has progressed further than Pacheco at the moment, and whilst I believe they will both make it here, Pacheco looks like he could possibly become 1 of the very best footballers on the planet in 4 or 5 years.

if your talking 4 to 5 years. LDV would be my pick for "who among the current crop of players in the club has the best chance of starting in the "#10 position in 5 years time"?

[IOMRed]

Anyone know how Degen did last night? See he only played 45 mins, is this a sign he might be on the bench on Sunday?

[Adeemo]

Anyone know how Degen did last night? See he only played 45 mins, is this a sign he might be on the bench on Sunday?

Think there's mixed reports over whether he went off injured or not. Pretty sure he won't be on the bench on sunday anynway.

[kingz]

I wish pacheco was older
we need a player of his ability on the first team

[sinnermichael]

I particularly enjoyed listening to their in-bred vermin going through their reportoire of anti-scouse songs. 'Murderers', 'Sign on', 'You scouse bastards'. It was all there. At a reserve game.

[IOMRed]

I particularly enjoyed listening to their in-bred vermin going through their reportoire of anti-scouse songs. 'Murderers', 'Sign on', 'You scouse bastards'. It was all there. At a reserve game.

Do you know that is really depressing, when my young lad is old enough I've thought reserves games would be an ideal place to take him when he's not quite old or big enough for 45,000 at Anfield. How sad a world we live in.

[Greg]

Heard some interesting snippet about Jay Spearing yesterday. From someone at Melwood.

Apparently Carragher had asked Rafa at Melwood to give him a game (not sure what position he was talking about). Carra had said something along the lines of "give Spearing a go. I will cover him and look after him".

Rafa kept saying "he's too small, he's too small".

If Rafa thinks he's too small now - and assuming he's not gonna get any taller - his days at Anfield look to be over.

[Crouchy]

El Zhar was on a different level to others on the pitch Yesterday.  Great touch and skill.

[Mooncat Sundog]

Heard some interesting snippet about Jay Spearing yesterday. From someone at Melwood.

Apparently Carragher had asked Rafa at Melwood to give him a game (not sure what position he was talking about). Carra had said something along the lines of "give Spearing a go. I will cover him and look after him".

Rafa kept saying "he's too small, he's too small".

If Rafa thinks he's too small now - and assuming he's not gonna get any taller - his days at Anfield look to be over.

That would be a real shame if true.  I also do not think Rafa would ever rule a player out due to height.  Surely he would be looking for more from him before he got his chance.  Rafa played Aimar in Spain, Garcia was never ruled out over height and Owen would have played if he had stayed.  Spearing though i have not seen him this season will just have to develop his game.  Mascherano and insua are also players that play that are blessed with height if being short is your thing.  It sure works for me and I am a bit of a twat.

[Juan Loco]

Heard some interesting snippet about Jay Spearing yesterday. From someone at Melwood.

Apparently Carragher had asked Rafa at Melwood to give him a game (not sure what position he was talking about). Carra had said something along the lines of "give Spearing a go. I will cover him and look after him".

Rafa kept saying "he's too small, he's too small".

If Rafa thinks he's too small now - and assuming he's not gonna get any taller - his days at Anfield look to be over.

Not buying that. There is a marginal difference between his height and Mascherano's. A difference so small that it would have absolutely no affect on the decision to play him or not. They both play in the same position, they're both short.

Spearing probably isn't getting games because he's just not that good.

Anyways, if there is any truth in that, Carragher would be better looking after his own game the way he's playing this season.