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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2020, 01:51:10 AM »
Genuinely didn't know why. Thanks.
Didn't want to sound condescending, sorry if it came that way... It just seemed unreal... :wave
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2020, 08:17:28 PM »
That's interesting. The initial results from resumption of the bundesliga showed that the usual advantage was turned on its head. Anyone have any idea of how that played out here for the end of last season?

On a separate note: prof I need the graph. Screw city and utd, I've got the jitters!

I dunno about the BL, but in the Prem, thie first weekend had 6 away wins, two home wins. This weekend (so far) has had 5 homes, 4 aways. No draws at all so far.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2020, 05:35:25 AM »

Oh, City already on par with a game to spare... We are doomed!
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2020, 10:51:37 AM »
Oh, City already on par with a game to spare... We are doomed!

I know you're joking, but the game they have in hand is a home game that they can only loose to par.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2020, 06:17:28 AM »
I know you're joking, but the game they have in hand is a home game that they can only loose to par.
They also aren't on par.  They're +2.   ;D

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2020, 07:02:55 AM »
They also aren't on par.  They're +2.   ;D

Maybe he meant they're on par with us?
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2020, 05:04:17 PM »
Maybe he meant they're on par with us?
I did; poor choice of words on my part considering the content of this thread... :)
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2020, 08:33:03 PM »
I did; poor choice of words on my part considering the content of this thread... :)
I knew really, I was just being a pedant  ;D

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #49 on: Yesterday at 06:50:48 PM »
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It looks to me as if we have signed another 'average' player. I'll hold back my complete opinion until I see the lad play

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #51 on: Yesterday at 09:04:29 PM »
Dunno where else to stick this.

After 26 games we have

21 penalties
8 home wins
16 away wins
2 draws
96 goals, nearly 3.7 per game

Without fans I could see home and away being about 50/50, but twice as many away wins is a bit odd.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #52 on: Yesterday at 09:32:49 PM »
Dunno where else to stick this.

After 26 games we have

21 penalties
8 home wins
16 away wins
2 draws
96 goals, nearly 3.7 per game

Without fans I could see home and away being about 50/50, but twice as many away wins is a bit odd.

A degree of complacency perhaps, assuming you’ll have a benefit when you have none and vice versa?
It looks to me as if we have signed another 'average' player. I'll hold back my complete opinion until I see the lad play

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #53 on: Yesterday at 09:37:53 PM »
Dunno where else to stick this.

After 26 games we have

21 penalties
8 home wins
16 away wins
2 draws
96 goals, nearly 3.7 per game

Without fans I could see home and away being about 50/50, but twice as many away wins is a bit odd.
It's only 4 results away from a 50/50 split.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #54 on: Yesterday at 09:57:25 PM »
A degree of complacency perhaps, assuming you’ll have a benefit when you have none and vice versa?

Aye, as good a reason as any.

It's only 4 results away from a 50/50 split.



8 results, without reply. But it is a small sample size to be sure.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #55 on: Yesterday at 10:03:02 PM »
Aye, as good a reason as any.

8 results, without reply. But it is a small sample size to be sure.
4 results - if four of the away wins were home wins, it would be 12 v 12.
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #56 on: Yesterday at 10:21:27 PM »
4 results - if four of the away wins were home wins, it would be 12 v 12.

But they weren’t.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #57 on: Yesterday at 10:23:31 PM »
4 results - if four of the away wins were home wins, it would be 12 v 12.

That’s up there with the famous commentator line of ‘if that was a metre lower it would have been a goal’. 😂
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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #58 on: Yesterday at 10:35:47 PM »
Think people are misunderstanding the distribution of results and what is a statistical anomaly or not.

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Re: The Alternative Premier League Table 2020-21
« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 11:12:22 PM »
The greatest of the "where are we really at" models I've seen out there, and modelling complex stuff is my daily job. Congrats Prof, I will follow you as always since the creation of the APLT!
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