Topic: The RAWK Film Thread

[Buck Pete]

Are you using more than one pole, or a massive, weighted net?

Yeah I'm being sarcastic mate.  Tepid and Andy will be on in a bit to call me a mutherfucka!!

QT's characters deliver swear words like poetry IMO.  And the 'Jimmy Situation' is my favourite scene in Pulp Fiction regardless of how many N words there are.

[Beav]

Once Upon A Time... In Hollywood is kinda the most Tarantino movie, and the least Tarantino movie hes made yet.

Easily his most restrained and human story since Jackie Brown, melancholic and laid back, its a Tarantino hang out movie.

Also for all the hoopla about him "covering the Manson murders", his treatment of Sharon is the most loving, wonderful thing that anyone could do for her in a film. Robbie's performance is the heart of the movie and I want to go back just to watch her again, its beautiful.

[afc tukrish]

Yeah I'm being sarcastic mate.  Tepid and Andy will be on in a bit to call me a mutherfucka!!

QT's characters deliver swear words like poetry IMO.  And the 'Jimmy Situation' is my favourite scene in Pulp Fiction regardless of how many N words there are.

You're going to need a bigger boat, mate...

[Lad]

Once Upon A Time... In Hollywood is kinda the most Tarantino movie, and the least Tarantino movie hes made yet.

Easily his most restrained and human story since Jackie Brown, melancholic and laid back, its a Tarantino hang out movie.



Also for all the hoopla about him "covering the Manson murders", his treatment of Sharon is the most loving, wonderful thing that anyone could do for her in a film. Robbie's performance is the heart of the movie and I want to go back just to watch her again, its beautiful.

Yeah I agree about the Sharon bit but honestly I would have walked out after the first hour such was my level or boredom, if it wasn’t for the fact I was sitting with the missus. Turns out she felt the same.

[Ziltoid]

Those who enjoy Martial Arts pure shit kicker action movies such as 'The Raid' and 'John Wick' then you should really check out 'The Night Comes For Us (2018)'

Cheers Pete, loved The Raid

[Buck Pete]

Cheers Pete, loved The Raid

Zilt. Check out 'Headshot' too.  Much of the same.

There's a half English/Indonesian fella in both movies called Zack Lee.  He's a scouser and plays the part of a proper bad guy nutter in both movies.

[AndyMuller]

Yeah I'm being sarcastic mate.  Tepid and Andy will be on in a bit to call me a mutherfucka!!

QT's characters deliver swear words like poetry IMO.  And the 'Jimmy Situation' is my favourite scene in Pulp Fiction regardless of how many N words there are.

You motherfuckin’ motherfucker how dare you call me and motherfucking Tepid out in the RAWK Film Thread motherfucker!

[Buck Pete]

You motherfuckin’ motherfucker how dare you call me and motherfucking Tepid out in the RAWK Film Thread motherfucker!

Quentin is that you?

[moondog]

I'd be more happy with 'shoot' or 'sugar' to be honest so I'm gonna give it a miss and watch Toy Story 4 instead.

Not Buzz Motherfuckin Lightyear and Woody??

[Barneylfc∗]

Just back from seeing the Lion King. 20 odd years later, Scar is still a massive wanker. Hate that c*nt.
Decent enough, but still not a patch on the original.

[Redcap]

Really enjoyed Midsommar the other day. It's a beautiful dark pagan fantasy, rather than a horror movie per se.

Some utterly gorgeous photography - Ari Aster's outdone himself after Hereditary, which I didn't really enjoy. It's a solid 2.5 hours, but it never feels slow, despite having a dream-like quality throughout.

Some of the violence is very confronting and gory - reminiscent of Hereditary, actually. But it never comes across as gratuitous.

Despite being set in some gloriously open green fields, Aster evokes a real sense of claustrophobia - not the claustrophobia of enclosed spaces, but more that of a tight-knit community, and being a stranger to it.

There are also some really funny scenes in there, which release some of the tension, but without losing the prevailing sense of uneasiness throughout.

Really great. 4/5.

[J-Mc-]

Any idea when Toy story 4 will be out in the usual places?

[IgorBobbins]

Went to see Once Upon A Time in Hollywood last night - not really sure what to think of it.  Initial feeling is disappointment - it didn't really know what it wanted to be and was a bit all over the place, I thought.  It looked beautiful and was well acted, but the pacing seemed off and the...

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...frenzied outburst of violence in the "payoff" at the end seemed completely unnecessary and out of context with the rest of the film.  It's almost as if Tarantino remembered that there just has to be a section of glorified violence in each of his films, so tacked it on.

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[Beav]

Yeah I agree about the Sharon bit but honestly I would have walked out after the first hour such was my level or boredom, if it wasn’t for the fact I was sitting with the missus. Turns out she felt the same.

I've seem a few people struggling with it so far, with complaints of "nothing much happening" which isnt uncommon with these kind of films where the play-by-play plot isnt really important, and its all about mood and atmosphere, characters mulling over their thoughts about life and love as we follow them in their day to day lives. Sometimes these hangout movies really work for me (most of Linklaters films), and sometimes they dont (I struggled to get into American Honey), but I think this is a really brilliantly pitched version of this kind of film, slow nature of it is fantastic for what hes going for, letting the late 60s mood wash over us as we sink into this gloriously detailed world. Its not about what happens necessarily, he just wants us to experience this moment in history as the landscape of film was moving from one era into another while he contemplates his own career.

I cant remember if I mentioned it before, but watching some of the late 60s films he programmed at the New Beverly really helped my enjoyment of this, helping to give context from what he was pulling from so if anyone can see some before they go to this, definitely try and catch a few. Id recommend Moving Target, Gunmans Walk, Navajo Joe and The Secret Invasion to get started, as a flavour of spaghetti westerns and the sort of b-movies Rick was in, as well as The Wrecking Crew for Sharon Tate's last performance, then go from there but its insane the amount of material hes referencing in this film.

[Henry Gale]

Any idea when Toy story 4 will be out in the usual places?

I would say the first or maybe second week in September. I think the digital release is mid September time.

[Zlen]

Once upon a time was pretty meh.
Quentins most self indulgent and lukewarm movie.

[TepidT2O]

Once upon a time was pretty meh.
Quentins most self indulgent and lukewarm movie.

Most self indulgent?

That’s going some

[IgorBobbins]

Went to see Once Upon A Time in Hollywood last night - not really sure what to think of it.  Initial feeling is disappointment - it didn't really know what it wanted to be and was a bit all over the place, I thought.  It looked beautiful and was well acted, but the pacing seemed off and the...

Spoiler

...frenzied outburst of violence in the "payoff" at the end seemed completely unnecessary and out of context with the rest of the film.  It's almost as if Tarantino remembered that there just has to be a section of glorified violence in each of his films, so tacked it on.

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Oh, and Al Pacino is completely wasted in his small role

[Casta]

I enjoyed Once upon a time in Hollywood, it's a slow burn at the beginning but the batshit crazy last 30 mins are superb, i would mirror what's been mentioned on here, Brad Pitt was excellent again, Leo pretty good as well, also what an ensemble cast that was, some big names on in it for like 5 or 10 mins or so. Loved it.

[Trada]

They are saying that Disney are getting a bit uneasy about JoJo rabbit after a screening because it makes fun of Hitler. WTF

[Chakan]

They are saying that Disney are getting a bit uneasy about JoJo rabbit after a screening because it makes fun of Hitler. WTF

All the white nationalist in the USA might take offense

[Kopite Tom]

Any decent copies of Far From Home about yet or still too soon?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Blinded by the Light.

This seemed like a play that made it to the big screen. I know it was based on a book (Said at the end) which was based on a true story.

Fairly interesting and a good representation of the 80s (Except if you actually lived through them - quite a few jarring words 'Cool' and clothes and stuff which didn't sit right) - Also not that much into Bruce Springsteen myself - but a quietly enjoyable film. More of a story than a film - nothing mad happens and well it was quite ordinary - which was probably the point. Touched on the shit that immigrants got in the 80s from gobshites as well. Sadly that seems to be one thing that's coming back.

7/10.

[gary75]

I'm saying it, John Wick 3 was shite! Absolutely nothing left in the tank at all. Hope KR doesn't do a 4th one!

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Didn't get past 30 minutes of the first one, I recall a scene where a guy is describing who John wick was and he used the phrase " killed three men, in a bar, with a pencil"
It was at this point I switched it off.

[Something Worse]

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Didn't get past 30 minutes of the first one, I recall a scene where a guy is describing who John wick was and he used the phrase " killed three men, in a bar, with a pencil"
It was at this point I switched it off.

[Zlen]

Most self indulgent?

That’s going some

Maybe so, just left me completely unmoved.
Giggled a bit when he gave the dog his command, but mostly it was just a weird mish mash of different tones and in the end felt only really polished on the visual side. The fact that its not, as most of his movies, Quentins take on a genre, somehow played against it. It wasnt much of anything in the end. Still glad he is making movies and long may he continue - Ill always go and see them, but this one is low on the list of my Tarantino favourites.

[stevieG786]

Yeah I agree about the Sharon bit but honestly I would have walked out after the first hour such was my level or boredom, if it wasn’t for the fact I was sitting with the missus. Turns out she felt the same.

Yup, Robbie’s role was an afterthought imo she was just ‘there’ without being any relevant scenes with the main two stars.

The first 2.5 hours were boring and the last 30 minutes were great. I would definitely not watch this one Again.

[JoeCole]

Just been to see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood again, holds up on second viewing. It is paced slowly but the characters and dialogue are great and keep it ticking along nicely, but those are always my favourite kind of films anyway (see: 90% of Richard Linklater's work). I hear there's an extended cut out there that may find its way to Netflix eventually, hopefully that ends up being true.

[Something Worse]

Yup, Robbie’s role was an afterthought imo she was just ‘there’ without being any relevant scenes with the main two stars.

The first 2.5 hours were boring and the last 30 minutes were great. I would definitely not watch this one Again.

No she's the entire point of the movie, in both a meta and a plot sense.

[rafathegaffa83]

Yup, Robbie’s role was an afterthought imo she was just ‘there’ without being any relevant scenes with the main two stars.

The first 2.5 hours were boring and the last 30 minutes were great. I would definitely not watch this one Again.

Her character isn't an afterthought

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She juxtaposes with DiCaprio's and Pitt's "Old Hollywood" characters throughout. There are scenes that mirror each other with different endings (i.e. Pitt speeding down Cielo Drive to his trailer, while Polanski and Tate go to the Playboy Mansion.

Then you also have the scene in which she has pure joy at watching herself and the reaction of others when she sees her own movie. Compare that with DiCaprio's self-loathing when trying to remember his lines

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[damomad]

Thought Once Upon a Time was excellent. I knew nothing about the Sharon Tate story before watching.

Felt it was paced well throughout. Robbie lights up the screen in every scene. A really well made film, it goes up alongside Tarantino's best for me.

Pitt's scene with Bruce Lee and Di Caprio's explaining the book to the child were other highlights.

[Buck Pete]

Once Upon a Time is splitting opinions on here and I can understand that to be honest

Personally speaking, I absolutely loved it. Captured late 60's Hollywood beautifully.  Acting Masterclasses from the main players and I will definitely be going to see it again.  I just have to re-watch Rick Dalton verbally destroy a car full of hippies while drinking Margarita's straight from a blender jug.  Funniest scene in a movie I've seen for ages

The soundtrack too. Immense.  'Out of Time' by Chris Farlowe and 'Hush' by Deep Purple were highlights for me.

Also...

I was so happy to see that end credits scene I must admit.  Without spoiling it, I thought QT had forgotten about this scenes subject matter, or maybe just decided not to bother to include it this time.

[OneTouchFooty]

I saw Once Upon A Time in Hollywood the other day and I’m still figuring out totally what to make of it.. but I enjoyed it on the whole and it had me smiling many times, a film to just appreciate with obsessing over a storyline. I’d say it’s one of Tarantino’s better films and the shouts about ‘indulgence’ are harsh, it wasn’t thrusting it in your face and it the way it played was more as homage to the Western/B movie genre of that era, which clearly he loves.

I think anyone expecting a film that’s packaged nice and neatly with a beginning, middle and end will be disappointed, its one to allow to wash over you and appreciate visually and the scenes individually, without fretting about it being tied up neatly with a bow. Brad Pitt & Leo are great and I was worried from seeing the trailer that it might be a bit of an overbearing “buddy comedy” but they played it just right.

My one gripe is I felt the Manson story was shoehorned in a little, also what’s the point wasting Margot Robbie by giving her no dialogue and having her basically pout and flutter her eyelashes in slow motion for 2 hours. Instead of an appreciation it made Sharon Tate come across as a vacuous, vain airhead.

[Buck Pete]

I'm a bit sceptical to even call OUATIH a buddy movie really.  I enjoyed the dynamic between Rick and Cliff but it never struck me as a 'best mates' sort of arrangement.

This is a dodgy comparison but it's the first one that came to my head,  I saw their relationship and bit like Arthur Daley (Rick) and Terry (Cliff) off the TV series 'Minder'.   In that, Rick needed Cliff more than Cliff needed Rick.

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My one gripe is I felt the Manson story was shoehorned in a little, also what’s the point wasting Margot Robbie by giving her no dialogue and having her basically pout and flutter her eyelashes in slow motion for 2 hours. Instead of an appreciation it made Sharon Tate come across as a vacuous, vain airhead.

I felt the same until I saw a quote by Roman Polanski himself during the 60's. He said something to the effect of "you've seen much of her, how beautiful she is but you've never heard her talk".

And that's what Robbie was in my opinion a thing of ethereal beauty gliding along.

[eddiedingle]

Tarantinos a cringeworthy goon on a downward slide. Won't be paying to see his flicks from now on. He's conned me for the last time.

Wish he would make a simple crime film and not all this fantasy alternate history guff.

[Zlen]

I think anyone expecting a film that’s packaged nice and neatly with a beginning, middle and end will be disappointed, its one to allow to wash over you and appreciate visually and the scenes individually, without fretting about it being tied up neatly with a bow.

Packaged neatly is no problem, I’m all for just sitting back and soaking it in - but this movie fucks that up by wild tonal and pace shifts. Characters go from great moments of personal drama (DiCaprio in his trailer) to being absolute caricatures (Him in the final showdown and more so sending his best friend to the hospital). It’s as if he mixed attempting his usual dualogue slow tension driven moments (Pitt looking for the ranch owner) with some bits where dialogue in esssence reflects the style of tv of the era. Thats nice conceptually, but its shit in practice.

Sharon Tate character is just pointless, either flesh her out or find another vehicle for showing vistas and feet. Mansons children go from subtly menacing to blabbering idiots - again no problem with it - but commit to one.

In the end he mixed on the plate all his favourite dishes as he felt. Perhaps he loves the result - but I found it undecided on what it is and it never gripped me because of it. Movie itself kept breaking the spell by being all over the place.

[sirKennyDaggers]

Tarantino,love his films.
Bit underwhelmed by Once Upon In Hollywood,but like others thought the last half hour was brilliant,and Brad Pitt's acting s fantastic.
Went with my wife and 90 year old dad  and they loved the movie!

[afc tukrish]

Packaged neatly is no problem, I’m all for just sitting back and soaking it in - but this movie fucks that up by wild tonal and pace shifts. Characters go from great moments of personal drama (DiCaprio in his trailer) to being absolute caricatures (Him in the final showdown and more so sending his best friend to the hospital). It’s as if he mixed attempting his usual dualogue slow tension driven moments (Pitt looking for the ranch owner) with some bits where dialogue in esssence reflects the style of tv of the era. Thats nice conceptually, but its shit in practice.

Sharon Tate character is just pointless, either flesh her out or find another vehicle for showing vistas and feet. Mansons children go from subtly menacing to blabbering idiots - again no problem with it - but commit to one.

In the end he mixed on the plate all his favourite dishes as he felt. Perhaps he loves the result - but I found it undecided on what it is and it never gripped me because of it. Movie itself kept breaking the spell by being all over the place.

Seems a well-argued criticism of the film...

[Buck Pete]

Yeah good post Zlen.  I agree with that.

Still really enjoyed it though even though it was basically all over the place as you say.