Topic: UK General Election - CLACTON

[Statto Red]

Thats the kind of thing you’d see in a banana republic. Country before party? Yeah, like fuck. Get these traitors out.

Exactly my thoughts as well.

The voters would never forgive the Tories if they went & did this & got the election that's been announced called off, the Tories would be wipeout if they did a stunt like this

[hide5seek]

Nope

Unless you're voting tactically you're voting Tory.

[Peabee]

That speech will live on for decades.   

One of THE greta political disasters

Perhaps Sunak should listen to her about climate change. 

[BobPaisley3]

Dpends which Asians, I guess. They love a Tory in Leicester.

The ‘all the old folk are dying so the Tories will struggle’ argument. It’s been a thing since the dawn of time but they’re still going.

[cornishscouser92]

Yeah lets not start posting shit from those bastards, worse than posting from the fail imo.

You might disagree strongly with Chris Hopr or GB News and what they stand for, but just ignoring those opinions and that side of the debate isn't the way to go. Echo chambers = 2019 again.

[Peabee]

Unless you're voting tactically you're voting Tory.

I brought my missus round to voting Labour instead of Green. I agree the environment / climate change is the biggest issue we're facing, but this is a generation defining election not a single issue election, and removing the Tories is imperative. Whereas, the Greens are unlikely to make any meaningful inroads - nationally - except take some left-wing votes off Labour. I've voted Green before during the Blair years, but we need to kick the Tories out before they devour the state, the NHS and our futures, leaving the UK as a playground for the "asset sweating" uber wealthy. Also, Starmer's Labour is nothing like the Tories despite all those lazy "Blue Tory or Red Tory" claims that have hung around for many years.

If I lived in a seat where Lib Dems had the best chance of taking a Tory MP seat, then I'd vote Lib Dem. Same for any seats where Greens are polling high enough to win.

I've definitely moved from idealist to pragmatist over the last few years. Unless we move on from FPTP, idealism is just a fantasy, unfortunately. Democracy also isn't supposed to represent every single thing we want individually. We need to look at the big picture. And the big picture is the Tories are c*nts.

[Peabee]

You might disagree strongly with Chris Hopr or GB News and what they stand for, but just ignoring those opinions and that side of the debate isn't the way to go. Echo chambers = 2019 again.

I'm happy to ignore buffoons, racists and clowns.

[Statto Red]

Phil
@Philmoorhouse76
"It can still be aborted." No it can't. Replacing him as leader doesn't stop him being Prime Minister. They'd need a majority of parliament (not just Conservative MPs) to do that. Whoever is behind this has no clue how elections, governments or even parliament works.
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Tory MP: "Today has clearly been an absolute disaster but the election is NOT irrevocable; up until the point of the Dissolution of Parliament - when the writs are moved to begin the contests, it can still be aborted."
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[Redbonnie]

Drowned rat

The winner 🥇

[Statto Red]

[WhereAngelsPlay]

You might disagree strongly with Chris Hopr or GB News and what they stand for, but just ignoring those opinions and that side of the debate isn't the way to go. Echo chambers = 2019 again.

Ok

[Redbonnie]

The fact he is knighted is not relevant and doesnt suggest much thought.
The fact hes a c*nt who employs the likes of Reeves Lammy Streeting and Kendall is what should concern you more.

There are people on pip praying these get kicked out .. don’t underestimate how much they are negatively influencing vulnerable peoples lives.

[So… Howard Philips]

This will be what drives me nuts. People who don't vote Labour because of his stance on something happening 5,000 fucking miles away. The loss of innocent life infuriates me, and every leader in that conflict is acting like a complete tw@t, but how about we prioritise what's going on over here? It's not like the Tories have a radically different approach to the issue.

Surely those can vote for the Workers Party of Britain?

[ToneLa]

Selfish Rishi!

https://www.politico.eu/article/britains-july-election-summer-holidays-rishi-sunak/

5 great things Britain’s July election ruins

look forward to leaders going even further over the top than normal in their efforts to capitalize on the football frenzy — so expect more cringe photo-ops from the pub.

Yeah, it's funny

They also reckon some Tory MPs are gonna be cancelling their holidays

And it's a week after glasto

But before schools in England are on hols!

[Kenny's Jacket]

There are people on pip praying these get kicked out .. don’t underestimate how much they are negatively influencing vulnerable peoples lives.

Im aware of how bad the Tories are.  Thanks.

[ToneLa]

This will be what drives me nuts. People who don't vote Labour because of his stance on something happening 5,000 fucking miles away. The loss of innocent life infuriates me, and every leader in that conflict is acting like a complete tw@t, but how about we prioritise what's going on over here? It's not like the Tories have a radically different approach to the issue.

Those people are traitors and are giving Tories a vote

Labour are the opposition, they can't force a ceasefire

I ripped off posters on Smithdown saying STARMER = GENOCIDE

When he's in power, sure, do what you want... but the actual fuckin GOVERNMENT are more guilty just by virtue of being in power

Besides, there's issues at home. No party should be single-issue

(And as much as I want Labour in, I also don't want to be let down... so I'll stay remain somewhat anti-government, even when it's a government I want)

[west_london_red]

Guys,

Was it definitely Steve Bray blasting out Things can only get better? I feel I have to chuck him a few quid for that

[Redbonnie]

Im aware of how bad the Tories are.  Thanks.

Then why would you say it wouldn’t make any difference if we had a Labour Govt instead?

[Red Beret]

Phil
@Philmoorhouse76
"It can still be aborted." No it can't. Replacing him as leader doesn't stop him being Prime Minister. They'd need a majority of parliament (not just Conservative MPs) to do that. Whoever is behind this has no clue how elections, governments or even parliament works.
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Tory MP: "Today has clearly been an absolute disaster but the election is NOT irrevocable; up until the point of the Dissolution of Parliament - when the writs are moved to begin the contests, it can still be aborted."
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https://x.com/Philmoorhouse76/status/1793389230921503124

This is what I said. Unless the Tories can line up a unity candidate with no challengers to avoid a contest, then there's no way they can oust Sunak and replace him in a week.

It took five days to replace Truss with Sunak. I can't see it being that smooth this time.

[Yorkykopite]

Bacon sandwich says rain-drenched Sunak has lost the election already.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Then why would you say it wouldn’t make any difference if we had a Labour Govt instead?

I didnt

[BarryCrocker]

An election about people.

Keeping people out of a country to keep people in their jobs in parliament.

[ToneLa]

Bacon sandwich says rain-drenched Sunak has lost the election already.

Of course he's lost

The poll lead is one thing. He's doing this now as the future is dodgy

- good economic news
- dumbass Rwanda scheme may pass.
- but more small boats are expected end of summer, so before then
- feel-good footie is on
- rather than wait on the unknown, watch them point at decreasing food prices etc.

Plus he's minted. I like Politico's line:

"If he was going to lose, why not lose now, and head off for a brighter future with his buddies in Silicone Valley?"

I think he's gambled on a loser, but the future may not be much better... when he would HAVE to call it. So he's taking short term good news, though we all know it simply won't fool anyone with their eyes open

[oldfordie]

I brought my missus round to voting Labour instead of Green. I agree the environment / climate change is the biggest issue we're facing, but this is a generation defining election not a single issue election, and removing the Tories is imperative. Whereas, the Greens are unlikely to make any meaningful inroads - nationally - except take some left-wing votes off Labour. I've voted Green before during the Blair years, but we need to kick the Tories out before they devour the state, the NHS and our futures, leaving the UK as a playground for the "asset sweating" uber wealthy. Also, Starmer's Labour is nothing like the Tories despite all those lazy "Blue Tory or Red Tory" claims that have hung around for many years.

If I lived in a seat where Lib Dems had the best chance of taking a Tory MP seat, then I'd vote Lib Dem. Same for any seats where Greens are polling high enough to win.

I've definitely moved from idealist to pragmatist over the last few years. Unless we move on from FPTP, idealism is just a fantasy, unfortunately. Democracy also isn't supposed to represent every single thing we want individually. We need to look at the big picture. And the big picture is the Tories are c*nts.

I remember warning a few people about these Torys back in 2020, they are fanatics, I think they must have wondered what I was talking about, how could they be fanatics they aren't even left wing.
These Torys today masquerade under the Tory banner, it won them power but am hoping they've destroyed the Tory partys image for many years to come.

[RedDeadRejection]

Tories trying to stop this may actually be the thing people finally hit the streets for.

[oldfordie]

Bookies first reaction to bring a few smiles.

 Labour 1/12 to unseat Johnathan Gullis. nothing on Lee Anderson yet but he's been saying he's been favourite to win the seat for a few months, I think he's telling Porkies.
Labour 4/9 to unseat Rees-Mogg
Labour 1/6 to unseat Theresa Villiers
Labour 11/10 to take out Braverman
Labour 1/7 to take out Daniel Kwacsynski
Laboour 1/3 to take out Theresa Coffey
labour 8/15 to take out Esther McVey
Many toss ups that would be normally safe Tory seats.

[ToneLa]

The Tories threw out Sly News from their top secret *checks notes* election launch press conference.

How are they so bad at politics? Is it performance art at this stage or what?

Found the video

Sky News’ political correspondent Darren McCaffrey was thrown out of a Conservative party campaign launch event on Wednesday live on air.

McCaffrey was manhandled by the event’s security as he attempted to explain, walking backwards while broadcasting, why he was being forcibly removed.

McCaffrey said the party claimed the event was being covered by a pool camera which was supporting broadcasters with footage and therefore he wasn’t authorised to be there.<a href="https://youtube.com/v/jIZRnhaaUCg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://youtube.com/v/jIZRnhaaUCg</a>

[Kenny's Jacket]

Tories trying to stop this may actually be the thing people finally hit the streets for.

Its hard to imagine how it wouldn't make it worse for them

[Redbonnie]

I didnt

Apologies ..it was a different poster. You were the one who called the country’s only hope of getting rid of a rogue government which is actively destroying peoples lives… A c**nt.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Apologies ..it was a different poster. You were the one who called the country’s only hope of getting rid of a rogue government which is actively destroying peoples lives… A c**nt.

yay, you got there in the end.

[west_london_red]

This is what I said. Unless the Tories can line up a unity candidate with no challengers to avoid a contest, then there's no way they can oust Sunak and replace him in a week.

It took five days to replace Truss with Sunak. I can't see it being that smooth this time.

It would be an absolute gift for Labour if they abort the election, they are such a shambles that they can’t even hold an election, it would finish them off.

[Statto Red]

Bookies first reaction to bring a few smiles.

 Labour 1/12 to unseat Johnathan Gullis. nothing on Lee Anderson yet but he's been saying he's been favourite to win the seat for a few months, I think he's telling Porkies.
Labour 4/9 to unseat Rees-Mogg
Labour 1/6 to unseat Theresa Villiers
Labour 11/10 to take out Braverman
Labour 1/7 to take out Daniel Kwacsynski
Laboour 1/3 to take out Theresa Coffey
labour 8/15 to take out Esther McVey
Many toss ups that would be normally safe Tory seats.

McVey is in an ultra safe Tory seat [Tatton] i'll be amazed & laughing my head off, if the Tories lose that seat, the only time they've ever lost the seat was at the 97 election, when Labour & Lib Dems came together & pulled out their candidates, for an independent candidate [Martin Bell] against the Tory incumbent at the time who was hit by sleaze & scandal.

[Redbonnie]

yay, you got there in the end.

I honestly don’t find any humour in human suffering. The tories have the whole establishment behind them and god knows what they have got up their sleeves in terms of dirty tricks. It’s incredibly depressing to me that people can’t unite to get this over the line. It really is life or death for some people. We live in a right of centre country and it takes an awful lot for Labour to win any election.

For the next 6 weeks if you can’t be positive please be quiet.

[Red_Mist]

Labour for me. Mainly because I’ve always voted Labour.

Part of me hates the two party system. We all know in x number of years time, the country, bored of Labour, will be voting Tory again, and it stinks. But another part of me is terrified of what the alternative might be. Could be some right fuckin nut job two bit set of chancers. Fuck that.

Just vote Labour folks. Get the c*nts out.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Guys,

Was it definitely Steve Bray blasting out Things can only get better? I feel I have to chuck him a few quid for that

And when they cut the PA, he started singing it at the top of his voice 

[Red_Mist]

Guys,

Was it definitely Steve Bray blasting out Things can only get better? I feel I have to chuck him a few quid for that

He’s a bit of a legend him.

[Kenny's Jacket]

I honestly don’t find any humour in human suffering.

Me neither

For the next 6 weeks if you can’t be positive please be quiet. 

Its a discussion forum, I expressed a view.  You can react to that in different ways, challenge them, ignore them, agree with them or put me on ignore.

[west_london_red]

He’s a bit of a legend him.

I was listening to the speech on LBC on my phone when it was being made and the music was definitely louder then it is on the BBC footage they have on their website

[oldfordie]

McVey is in an ultra safe Tory seat [Tatton] i'll be amazed & laughing my head off, if the Tories lose that seat, the only time they've ever lost the seat was at the 97 election, when Labour & Lib Dems came together & pulled out their candidates, for an independent candidate [Martin Bell] against the Tory incumbent at the time who was hit by sleaze & scandal.

  I bet she thought the same back in 2020.

[Sangria]

You might disagree strongly with Chris Hopr or GB News and what they stand for, but just ignoring those opinions and that side of the debate isn't the way to go. Echo chambers = 2019 again.

More relevantly, left wing echo chambers equals 2016.