Topic: UK General Election - July 4th, here we go folks.

[red_Mark1980]

Can't stand him. All for show.

Long may he have no job and be forced to follow fabricant and that carpet he wears

[Red Beret]

Writing exclusively for the Observer, Labour leader Keir Starmer says that Sunak has no option but to call a general election immediately to avoid further damage being inflicted on the country by his paralysed government and deeply divided party.

“Tragically, Britain is now the victim of a zombie government, stuck in purgatory with a prime minister who won’t call an election he fears he’ll lose, but can’t give this country the change it deserves. Dragging this out will only cause more damage, more decline and more drift.”

Certainly not wrong here. This government is like a bird with two broken wings.

[oldfordie]

Street backed Truss and has made a shit show of the west Midlands.

Deserve it all, the hiding little Tory rat

That says it all for me, he may be polite but anyone who supported Truss supported values I despise.

[Dr. Beaker]

Can't stand him. All for show.

Long may he have no job and be forced to follow fabricant and that carpet he wears

He's just the underlay.

[Dr. Beaker]

Poor old Sarmer calling for an early election. Bet he hasn't had a bacon butty for months, the poor bastard.

[red_Mark1980]

That says it all for me, he may be polite but anyone who supported Truss supported values I despise.

For me he's the worst kind of Tory.

Johnson, truss, Braverman are all out there bold as brass. You can't reasonably argue they are good.

Street is the acceptable Tory. The fella who says the right things but he's ultimately still a fucking Tory.

Hope he has to ask Fabricant to sell some of his wigs.

[Dr. Beaker]

For me he's the worst kind of Tory.

Johnson, truss, Braverman are all out there bold as brass. You can't reasonably argue they are good.

Street is the acceptable Tory. The fella who says the right things but he's ultimately still a fucking Tory.

Hope he has to ask Fabricant to sell some of his wigs.

Poor old Fabricant is going to have the rug pulled from over him.

[red_Mark1980]

Poor old Fabricant is going to have the rug pulled from over him.

My other half is not remotely politically minded so I showed her the photos of the candidates on Thursday and explained street is in "intense friendship" with fabricant and illustrated fabricant.

Without provocation she asked "why is he wearing that ridiculous wig"

And that's how I met your mother

[west_london_red]

Street backed Truss and has made a shit show of the west Midlands.

Deserve it all, the hiding little Tory rat

I keep wondering what he’s done to deserve this level of praise he’s getting

[oldfordie]

For me he's the worst kind of Tory.

Johnson, truss, Braverman are all out there bold as brass. You can't reasonably argue they are good.

Street is the acceptable Tory. The fella who says the right things but he's ultimately still a fucking Tory.

Hope he has to ask Fabricant to sell some of his wigs.

I will give him credit for not taking his campaign into the gutter which is something we want to see from future Torys but we also want to see future Torys call out the charlatans. maybe am being unfair as I don't know the ins and outs of this campaign but I thought his response to the defeat was bullshit, taking all the blame for the defeat, none of it down to Sunak or the Torys, nahh he lost because the country is showing it's contempt for this Tory government. his response might be down to the promise of a seat in the next election or his partner Fabricants influence.

[John C]

That says it all for me, he may be polite but anyone who supported Truss supported values I despise.

Can't argue with that.
Fuck him.

[LuverlyRita]

My other half is not remotely politically minded so I showed her the photos of the candidates on Thursday and explained street is in "intense friendship" with fabricant and illustrated fabricant.

Without provocation she asked "why is he wearing that ridiculous wig"

Always makes me think of Dougal from the Magic Roundabout 

The results today have been brilliant. In London Sadiq Khan has conducted himself with enormous dignity throughout what has been a toxic campaign. Aside from defeating the Tories there is the added bonus that the anti-enviromentalists, racists and Islamophobes are absolutely seething tonight. Hope that they're choking on their cocoa 

[jillcwhomever]

I have just rejoined the party, really feel we have to take this opportunity and finish the buggers off. If that means losing my fingers to big ruddy dogs, then so be it. Leafleting is back on the menu it seems. 

[classycarra]

I have just rejoined the party, really feel we have to take this opportunity and finish the buggers off. If that means losing my fingers to big ruddy dogs, then so be it. Leafleting is back on the menu it seems. 

good stuff Jill!

it's been a great few days for Labour, great to see yet more positive results from the work they've put in turning the ship around these last few years.

great to see so many people enjoying it on here too. although wondering if some of those who find an angle to criticise every single thing Labour does might emerge from the woodwork soon to congratulate the party for their successes (in spite of their own qualms)

[red_Mark1980]

I keep wondering what he’s done to deserve this level of praise he’s getting

Most of the praise comes from people not in the west Midlands.

He's not an overt racist or bigot. So he's the lesser evil.

Always makes me think of Dougal from the Magic Roundabout 

We moved onto Micky Flanagans syrup of figs rant because I'm a basic bitch

Personally I think he should fuck off with carpet hair to north Wales. But I'm what you may call left leaning

[jillcwhomever]

good stuff Jill!

it's been a great few days for Labour, great to see yet more positive results from the work they've put in turning the ship around these last few years.

great to see so many people enjoying it on here too. although wondering if some of those who find an angle to criticise every single thing Labour does might emerge from the woodwork soon to congratulate the party for their successes (in spite of their own qualms)

The likes of Liverpool, Sheffield and Manchester have no Tory councillors at all now, when Labour gets in it's an opportunity that has to be taken so we can prove that Labour can improve things and be trusted. So, I really hope everyone can get together and find a constructive way of working. There are always going to be different opinions, as everyone is different but let's use in a constructive way rather than a negative one.

[spen71]

The joke in the West Midlands is that, if their is a photo opportunity then Street would be there in his Hi Viz

[west_london_red]

This is less than 2 weeks old but I don’t remember it getting much coverage, if London was in top spot it would have been front page news with Khans face all over it (interestingly they don’t even mention who was responsible for policing in the West Midlands until a few hours ago):

West Midlands force has highest knife crime rate

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce7r36rrezjo

But apparently it’s London fault:

West Midlands anti-knife crime mentor Malachi Nunes said: "Knife crime is higher in the West Midlands because young people here follow the trend of what’s happening in the capital. London has a big influence on cities like Birmingham.

[Wabaloolah]

Meanwhile the final outcome of the council elections has Labour winning control of 50, Lib Dem’s 12, Tories 6.

still one to come later today, Salford, 5 Tory councillors there, hopefully they all get wiped out

[djahern]

I'm going to have to start getting into 'nights' mode in preparation for the GE. I do not want to miss one minute of that!

Got one of my days annual leave saved up for the day after 😄

Won’t be fit for work that day

[oldfordie]

I don't think I've ever seen a party of government collapse so severely between one GE and the next. This isn't like losing a coalition partner, or seven to eight years of steadily increasing unpopularity. The Tories have gone from a relatively healthy majority to being utterly doomed in less than five years. It really is spectacular.

We won't know for sure for at least 5-10yrs but I think the Torys still don't understand just how much damage they've done to the partys future.
Only have to look at the reaction of studio audiences these days.  ive never seen what's happening today ever before, they can't even get people to listen.
All the old bulls.. doesn't work anymore. blaming others to deflect doesn't work, stirring up anger doesn't work. all the promises are seen as just more lies. excuses mocked. I honestly believe this Tory government have been a education for millions that will stay with them for life. the Torys have just gone too far, they have destroyed everything while putting us in massive debt,  it's not all down to Brexit lies. it's just everything. the sleaze. the incompetence. blowing billions, giving m8s millions for donations. audiences just frown or laugh mockingly when Tory MPs try to con them. I can't see people changing that opinion in years to come.

[Fitzy.]

I keep wondering what he’s done to deserve this level of praise he’s getting

I genuinely think it’s because he talks with a degree of normality. A low bar. Compared to the Tories we’ve been subjected to in recent years, he seems like a fairly nice bloke - who I think connects with folk. Delighted he’s lost though!

[Fitzy.]

Just seen a Susan Hall campaigner on Twitter suggest he barely met a Khan supporter in 8 months of canvassing. The implication that it was rigged. How grim.

[rob1966]

Just seen a Susan Hall campaigner on Twitter suggest he barely met a Khan supporter in 8 months of canvassing. The implication that it was rigged. How grim.

Trump play book right there.

[Draex]

Trump play book right there.

The Tory’s and Trump have been in bed since Brexit, Steve Banon and Cummings. Identical strategy’s. Repeat the lie enough and boldly, idiots believe.

[Fromola]

We won't know for sure for at least 5-10yrs but I think the Torys still don't understand just how much damage they've done to the partys future.
Only have to look at the reaction of studio audiences these days.  ive never seen what's happening today ever before, they can't even get people to listen.
All the old bulls.. doesn't work anymore. blaming others to deflect doesn't work, stirring up anger doesn't work. all the promises are seen as just more lies. excuses mocked. I honestly believe this Tory government have been a education for millions that will stay with them for life. the Torys have just gone too far, they have destroyed everything while putting us in massive debt,  it's not all down to Brexit lies. it's just everything. the sleaze. the incompetence. blowing billions, giving m8s millions for donations. audiences just frown or laugh mockingly when Tory MPs try to con them. I can't see people changing that opinion in years to come.

They have nothing to say. 2010-2015 it was all "Labour wrecked the economy so we need austerity". 2016-2019 it was "get Brexit done". Once that was off the agenda they've had nothing except "stop the boats", yet are powerless to do so other than silly gimmicks like Rwanda which only plays to a minority of their base.

When it's the poorest in society taking the hit (i.e. austerity) they can get by with bribing their base with tax cuts and low interest rates/low inflation. Once the middle classes started being hit by the cost of living crisis they were done for.

Their existential crisis for years to come is younger people aren't turning conservative as they age as they used to.

[redbyrdz]

Just seen a Susan Hall campaigner on Twitter suggest he barely met a Khan supporter in 8 months of canvassing. The implication that it was rigged. How grim.

He just did a shit job. If he'd actually gone and talked to people, she might have done better.


It's not the US. Londoners will just laugh at stuff like that.




That rumour that Khan was going to lose probably came from the same place. Make up an election result beforehand, and if it doesn't come to pass, people are more likely to believe the election was rigged...

[TepidT2O]

The question now is whether farrage makes a come back or not.  If he returns to lead Deform, the Tories will beget under 100 seats.

I suspect he will only return if he thinks he can win a seat though, is that possible? It might not be, deform are polling lower than ukip at their peak.

[killer-heels]

The question now is whether farrage makes a come back or not.  If he returns to lead Deform, the Tories will beget under 100 seats.

I suspect he will only return if he thinks he can win a seat though, is that possible? It might not be, deform are polling lower than ukip at their peak.

He isnt returning to Reform. He will join the Tories post election if they elect a nutter as leader.

[Crosby Nick]

This is less than 2 weeks old but I don’t remember it getting much coverage, if London was in top spot it would have been front page news with Khans face all over it (interestingly they don’t even mention who was responsible for policing in the West Midlands until a few hours ago):

West Midlands force has highest knife crime rate

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce7r36rrezjo

But apparently it’s London fault:

West Midlands anti-knife crime mentor Malachi Nunes said: "Knife crime is higher in the West Midlands because young people here follow the trend of what’s happening in the capital. London has a big influence on cities like Birmingham.

https://twitter.com/FergusCraig/status/1786040030663717052/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1786040030663717052&currentTweetUser=FergusCraig

[TSC]

Mark Harper rolled out to face the media music this morning and states ‘the polls are wrong’ on sky news when confronted with the ever widening gap between the Tories and Labour.

Comical Ali lives.

[B0151?]

For me, all of this is bigger than party politics. Theyve been in charge for all this time, someone else deserves a go. I think even if i was a Tory voter,  I'd want them out of power at this point. Its madness anyone could vote for them.

[west_london_red]

https://twitter.com/FergusCraig/status/1786040030663717052/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1786040030663717052&currentTweetUser=FergusCraig

Isn’t working

[Felch Aid]

Sky still pushing the projections that based upon Thursday's results labour at best only 7% ahead and a hung parliament.

So the pollsters have it all wrong?

[Red Beret]

Sky still pushing the projections that based upon Thursday's results labour at best only 7% ahead and a hung parliament.

So the pollsters have it all wrong?

It's what the Tories are clinging to this morning. Transport secretary says the locals prove the polls are wrong and that there's everything to fight for.

Fine. Call an election then.

[Yorkykopite]

Just seen a Susan Hall campaigner on Twitter suggest he barely met a Khan supporter in 8 months of canvassing. The implication that it was rigged. How grim.

Here we go.

[TSC]

The lunatic Braverman on Kuenssberg talking her usual bigoted nonsense

[Hazell]

The lunatic Braverman on Kuenssberg talking her usual bigoted nonsense

Just caught some of that. Wants to stop migration, do something about the European Court of Human Rights and the transgender ideology which has been indoctrinated in our schools. Not sure why the BBC have her on now?

[Red Beret]

The lunatic Braverman on Kuenssberg talking her usual bigoted nonsense

Gone Full Boebart there. You never go Full Boebart.

The Tories' only hope now is a snap election whilst people are moaning that Starmer is committing genocide for behaving exactly the same as the Tories and Biden. Im starting to suspect that one of the reasons Sunak is holding off isn't fear, or delusion, or grift - it's brain lock.

Bozo turned them into a single issue party and then purged the Tories of anyone with common sense. They have no record to campaign on, and I dont think they're capable of putting together a manifesto.

That's it. Sunak won't call an election because his team can't come up with any policies. They have no identity. They have made enemies everywhere - householders, rail workers, doctors, nurses, teachers. Who is going to believe them on the economy, the NHS, publicservices?

All they have is tax cuts and immigration. It's not enough and they know it. It's not so much fear as deer caught in headlights.

[west_london_red]

Just caught some of that. Wants to stop migration, do something about the European Court of Human Rights and the transgender ideology which has been indoctrinated in our schools. Not sure why the BBC have her on now?

Nothing about the cost of living, the NHS, defence, just hate, hate and more hate I’m guessing?