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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #560 on: October 2, 2023, 02:40:22 am »
I don't get why people say Spuds are good. They have a good team (not great), and looked nowhere near beating us when we were down to 9 men. They won't make top 4.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #561 on: October 2, 2023, 03:05:05 am »
They’re a decent who I think can make top 4, maybe end up battling it out with Newcastle for that last spot. That bench is weak as fuck though so they’re a long way off achieving anything other then a top 4-5 finish.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #562 on: October 2, 2023, 04:04:56 am »
Are you quite sure they won the league cup in 2001? ;)

My ellipses would suggest not…
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #563 on: October 2, 2023, 04:24:23 am »
My ellipses would suggest not…
Hmm. Ok, apologies if there was a clever joke in there I missed. I only mentioned it as it was another team wot won the league cup in 2001. A team with devilishly handsome and rogueishly charming and intelligent fans, a team wot plays in red etc..
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #564 on: October 2, 2023, 06:00:14 am »
Hmm. Ok, apologies if there was a clever joke in there I missed. I only mentioned it as it was another team wot won the league cup in 2001. A team with devilishly handsome and rogueishly charming and intelligent fans, a team wot plays in red etc..

They won it in 99, 02 (when we won the double), and later on when woodgate scored against chelsea, about 15 years ago. Juande Ramos the last spurs manager to win something.

3 league cups in 33 years, thats newcastle level failure

Who did you beat in 01? Was that birmingham on pens? Or man utd 2-1.
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« Reply #565 on: October 2, 2023, 06:18:31 am »
They won it in 99, 02 (when we won the double), and later on when woodgate scored against chelsea, about 15 years ago. Juande Ramos the last spurs manager to win something.

3 league cups in 33 years, thats newcastle level failure

Who did you beat in 01? Was that birmingham on pens? Or man utd 2-1.
It was Birmingham on pens, as you say; in the Millenium Stadium. First of three cups that spring, and a Gary Mac inspired return to the CL.
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #566 on: October 2, 2023, 06:27:22 am »
They won it in 99, 02 (when we won the double), and later on when woodgate scored against chelsea, about 15 years ago. Juande Ramos the last spurs manager to win something.

3 league cups in 33 years, thats newcastle level failure

Who did you beat in 01? Was that birmingham on pens? Or man utd 2-1.

You’re giving them too much credit! I think Blackburn won the League Cup in 2002, under Souness. Did they beat Spurs in the final maybe?

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #567 on: October 2, 2023, 06:49:20 am »
Hmm. Ok, apologies if there was a clever joke in there I missed. I only mentioned it as it was another team wot won the league cup in 2001. A team with devilishly handsome and rogueishly charming and intelligent fans, a team wot plays in red etc..

Yes, Mac Red was a fan then too …
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #568 on: October 2, 2023, 07:04:03 am »
Saturday wasnt Spurs fault.
It was a corrupt organisation working on behalf of a gulf state owned team which caused the problems.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #569 on: October 2, 2023, 07:23:22 am »
That lap of honor with the kids is going to look pretty fucking stupid at the end of the season - with 11 on the pitch I'm convinced we would have hammered them . We nearly done it with 9 .

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« Reply #570 on: October 2, 2023, 07:50:47 am »
It's amazing you actually think that given that up until yesterday we hadn't beaten you in years. We had a penalty given against us for the ball hitting Sissokko in the armpit in the biggest game we've arguably ever had. I don't think I've ever seen a penalty given for a ball hitting an armpit.  ;D

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #571 on: October 2, 2023, 08:06:38 am »
Astonishing at how thick and tribalistic fans can be at times, a week after a massive moan about Romero’s handball incident, they are now going ‘well what about this, its evened out!!!’ When our club calls for change for the good of the game.

To be fair, it’s not just spurs fans. It’s just like Klopp and the fixture complaints over the years.
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #572 on: October 2, 2023, 08:08:40 am »
^that wasn’t aimed at Tommy by the way.

I do work with some spurs fans, and was listening to them go on about decisions that have gone against them in previous years against us. Always fun listening to it from another fans point of view, as Liverpool fans think the exact opposite.

Be nice if when push is changed, everyone just agreed maybe its needed!
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #573 on: October 2, 2023, 08:43:22 am »
You’re giving them too much credit! I think Blackburn won the League Cup in 2002, under Souness. Did they beat Spurs in the final maybe?

Actually you are right i just checked it, they lost the final to blackburn.

2 league cups in 33 years, they have to be the worst big club out there, alongside Newcastle and Everton

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #574 on: October 2, 2023, 08:50:58 am »
Astonishing at how thick and tribalistic fans can be at times, a week after a massive moan about Romero’s handball incident, they are now going ‘well what about this, its evened out!!!’ When our club calls for change for the good of the game.

To be fair, it’s not just spurs fans. It’s just like Klopp and the fixture complaints over the years.

You cant compare that handball to the decisions on the weekend, that was a hand ball with his arm raised with debate on how close he was to the shot, like united fans saying the garnacho offside was the same as diaz, when garnacho was actually offside but it was marginal. Some of the decisions on Saturday were baffling, not just close calls interpreted differently.
I dont think Liverpool had any choice other than to put out this statement. They cant keep hiding behind saying sorry until the next mistake.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #575 on: October 2, 2023, 09:18:57 am »
Trouble is most fans just believe what they read in the rags or hear the garbage pundits spout. SKY & Talkshite have pushed an anti Liverpool agenda for decades and all the soccer AM bantz doesn't help either.
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #576 on: October 2, 2023, 09:41:06 am »
That lap of honor with the kids is going to look pretty fucking stupid at the end of the season - with 11 on the pitch I'm convinced we would have hammered them . We nearly done it with 9 .

Just thankful I don't have to go to London for work today. That open top bus parade will be a nightmare.

I find it fascinating this love in for an average side who struggled against nine men and needed as Atko from TAW put it "a set of circumstances from Mars" and a very fortunate OG to win this game.

I like their manager as a person. But this love in from the media and journos is frankly weird.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #577 on: October 2, 2023, 09:42:05 am »
That lap of honor with the kids is going to look pretty fucking stupid at the end of the season - with 11 on the pitch I'm convinced we would have hammered them . We nearly done it with 9 .

To be fair to them they never did anything to insult us. They were just enjoying a memorable moment for their fans. Fair do's. I don't think they're under any illusion that they'll finish top 4 with a smaller squad or win any cups.
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #578 on: October 2, 2023, 09:59:43 am »
You cant compare that handball to the decisions on the weekend, that was a hand ball with his arm raised with debate on how close he was to the shot, like united fans saying the garnacho offside was the same as diaz, when garnacho was actually offside but it was marginal. Some of the decisions on Saturday were baffling, not just close calls interpreted differently.
I dont think Liverpool had any choice other than to put out this statement. They cant keep hiding behind saying sorry until the next mistake.

Out of interest mate, as a fan who supports neither team (granted there will be some anti Spurs bias) what's your opinion on...

Jones red card
The challenge on Gomez in their box
Udogie tripping himself over
Jota red card
Salah being adjudged to have fouled Bissouma
The offside and subsequent explanation from PGMOL

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #579 on: October 2, 2023, 11:45:27 am »
They'll be fuming that no one's talking about them taking 4 points from 6 against Arsenal and Liverpool or that they're second in the table and just a point off City
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #580 on: October 2, 2023, 01:00:20 pm »
Out of interest mate, as a fan who supports neither team (granted there will be some anti Spurs bias) what's your opinion on...

Jones red card
The challenge on Gomez in their box
Udogie tripping himself over
Jota red card
Salah being adjudged to have fouled Bissouma
The offside and subsequent explanation from PGMOL

I thought Jones red card was 50/50 because how bad it looked in slow motion so thats the only one I could possibly understand.

Didnt see the challenge on Gomez

Jota’s second challenge shouldve been his first yellow as the first one was hilarious

Salahs on bissouma was very lucky for bissouma.

The offside didnt need a second look, you can tell live that he was miles on.

There were other incidents, advantages not being played when Liverpool were clean through, referee trembling excitedly as he gave Liverpool players cards.
The whole show was really bad, one of the worst refereed games ive seen in a long time, and it wasnt just var, all the officials were ridiculously bad.


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« Reply #581 on: October 2, 2023, 01:02:40 pm »
They'll be fuming that no one's talking about them taking 4 points from 6 against Arsenal and Liverpool or that they're second in the table and just a point off City

Im fuming that united got away with it this weekend because everyone is rightfully talking about the var shitshow

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« Reply #582 on: October 2, 2023, 01:10:06 pm »
I thought Jones red card was 50/50 because how bad it looked in slow motion so thats the only one I could possibly understand.

Didnt see the challenge on Gomez

Jota’s second challenge shouldve been his first yellow as the first one was hilarious

Salahs on bissouma was very lucky for bissouma.

The offside didnt need a second look, you can tell live that he was miles on.

There were other incidents, advantages not being played when Liverpool were clean through, referee trembling excitedly as he gave Liverpool players cards.
The whole show was really bad, one of the worst refereed games ive seen in a long time, and it wasnt just var, all the officials were ridiculously bad.
Thing about the Jones one if he'd been initially shown the red or maybe even wasn't shown a card at all and then to VAR, I think although most of us would still think it was harsh then it would be more understandable. But to go to VAR for such a contentious one when the ref has already gave it a yellow just really felt like we got screwed and not how VAR is supposed to be used.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #583 on: October 2, 2023, 01:12:51 pm »
The number of their fans I've seen banging on about the handball in the CL final is hilarious. As if it wasn't a handball.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #584 on: October 2, 2023, 01:21:53 pm »
The number of their fans I've seen banging on about the handball in the CL final is hilarious. As if it wasn't a handball.

And either way, it’s a slightly subjective call. Them bringing it up would only be relevant if they had sent it to VAR who said it wasn’t a penalty but somehow forgot to tell the ref.

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« Reply #585 on: October 2, 2023, 01:25:28 pm »
Thing about the Jones one if he'd been initially shown the red or maybe even wasn't shown a card at all and then to VAR, I think although most of us would still think it was harsh then it would be more understandable. But to go to VAR for such a contentious one when the ref has already gave it a yellow just really felt like we got screwed and not how VAR is supposed to be used.

100% , I found it weird that it was dealt with(yellow), then got referred.

I have to say ive seen a few weird ref decisions against Liverpool this season, still don’t understand the van dijk red card for example.

A lot of people say letter of the law, but surely it cant apply just for one team.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #586 on: October 2, 2023, 01:27:25 pm »
I thought Jones red card was 50/50 because how bad it looked in slow motion so thats the only one I could possibly understand.

Didnt see the challenge on Gomez

Jota’s second challenge shouldve been his first yellow as the first one was hilarious

Salahs on bissouma was very lucky for bissouma.

The offside didnt need a second look, you can tell live that he was miles on.

There were other incidents, advantages not being played when Liverpool were clean through, referee trembling excitedly as he gave Liverpool players cards.
The whole show was really bad, one of the worst refereed games ive seen in a long time, and it wasnt just var, all the officials were ridiculously bad.



The second shouldn't have happened as the fella jota "fouled" gesticulated for a card and he was already on a yellow.

Unless that was only a three week thing

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #587 on: October 2, 2023, 01:28:19 pm »
The second shouldn't have happened as the fella jota "fouled" gesticulated for a card and he was already on a yellow.

Unless that was only a three week thing

It's only a Liverpool thing. Same with the Mascherano test to see how it goes.

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« Reply #588 on: October 2, 2023, 01:28:25 pm »
I've tried to be grown up about this today, made a real effort, but I've failed. Hope these lose every match going forward unless it's one where their winning helps us.

No real logic to it, just want them to suffer. Blaaagh!

I've always felt this about Spurs. I've had an irrational hatred for them for as long as I've been watching football  ;D
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« Reply #589 on: October 2, 2023, 01:31:01 pm »
Out of interest mate, as a fan who supports neither team (granted there will be some anti Spurs bias) what's your opinion on...

Jones red card
The challenge on Gomez in their box
Udogie tripping himself over
Jota red card
Salah being adjudged to have fouled Bissouma
The offside and subsequent explanation from PGMOL

Add

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« Reply #590 on: October 2, 2023, 01:37:07 pm »
I mean Spurs have the same amount of points after 7 games that they did last season under Conte. I would hold horses on calling big Ange their saviour.

To be honest, that has been the delusion of United fans. Get a new manager in, he has a good run and he's the man to spend hundreds of millions to get them back.
Yeah, much as I like big Ange, remember that this is a "new manager bounce"... and it remains to be seen if they can maintain that, cause what happens when results start going down? That's when you see what a manager is made of. He should be able to maintain this level or get them out of a rut, but it remains yet to be seen.
Anyway- the results and performances sofar haven't been as fantastic as the media wants us to believe- and they are on the same number of points at this stage as last season.

They almost lost against Sheffield, only managing to draw level on 98 minutes and then scoring the winner on 100, after the ref gave them 13 minutes added on. I don't think you've realized what I've just said- SHEFFIELD LED FOR 98 MINUTES, AWAY AT SPURS!

Yesterday, they were 2nd best in everything, at home, when it was 11v11, couldn't keep a clean sheet after we went down to 10, and failed to break down a 9-man team. They FAILED.
We could've easily won that game with 9 men, if the Diaz goal stood, and if Mo wasn't yellow-carded for shite cause that was a simple tap-in.


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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #591 on: October 2, 2023, 01:37:49 pm »
Actually you are right i just checked it, they lost the final to blackburn.

2 league cups in 33 years, they have to be the worst big club out there, alongside Newcastle and Everton
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« Reply #592 on: October 2, 2023, 01:38:34 pm »
I've always felt this about Spurs. I've had an irrational hatred for them for as long as I've been watching football  ;D

I’ve got 30 years on you of having a rational hatred of Spurs.

For some reason they were always the London club the media fawned over in the 60s.

Chelsea were trendy, West Ham great young players, Arsenal a gritty team a bit similar to Liverpool. Spurs irrelevant but the media furore when Roger Hunt was selected for the 1966 World Cup ahead of Greaves (who was a good player) was a joy to behold.

All they’ve done since is sign Villa and Ardiles and sell Bale for mega bucks.
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« Reply #593 on: October 2, 2023, 01:40:00 pm »
It's only a Liverpool thing. Same with the Mascherano test to see how it goes.

Everton fans would disagree, see Niasse ban.
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« Reply #594 on: October 2, 2023, 01:42:15 pm »
I thought they looked incredibly clueless and weak-minded on Saturday up against the lowest of blocks. Despite being handed the game on a plate by PGMOL they still had to rely on luck. We will finish comfortably ahead of this lot.
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« Reply #595 on: October 2, 2023, 01:44:26 pm »
I’ve got 30 years on you of having a rational hatred of Spurs.

For some reason they were always the London club the media fawned over in the 60s.

Chelsea were trendy, West Ham great young players, Arsenal a gritty team a bit similar to Liverpool. Spurs irrelevant but the media furore when Roger Hunt was selected for the 1966 World Cup ahead of Greaves (who was a good player) was a joy to behold.

All they’ve done since is sign Villa and Ardiles and sell Bale for mega bucks.

The only thing I can come up with for hating them is Paul Stewart scoring a header against us in the early 90s and my grandad, who was a United supporter, making me cry after the match  ;D
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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #596 on: October 2, 2023, 01:44:57 pm »
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Robertson yellow card for Porro launching himself into Robbo.

Find the clip, he doesn't look for the ball once. His eyes are solely fixed on Robbo and his only intention is taking him out.

Every altercation was resolved with a Liverpool player getting booked. To be fair they were consistent

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #597 on: October 2, 2023, 01:47:52 pm »
Don't give a shit about Spurs either way, and never really have done. I'd say they were struggling to beat us with 9 men, let alone 10 and 11. Perhaps they'll be in the Top 4 fight, but the title? No chance. We're finishing ahead of these 100%.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #598 on: October 2, 2023, 01:49:29 pm »
The only thing I can come up with for hating them is Paul Stewart scoring a header against us in the early 90s and my grandad, who was a United supporter, making me cry after the match  ;D

We signed Stewart who joins the list of Spurs players we signed who were underwhelming- Keane and Ruddock immediately spring to mind.

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Re: Spurs - First Ten Games 23/24 League Champs
« Reply #599 on: October 2, 2023, 01:55:54 pm »
I must say though.. although I'm livid, it was class from Richarlison at the end there.
Quite unexpected.
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In such a sumptuous festival of shite, I wouldn't be so quick to pick a winner..

But he'd make the shortlist