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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80280 on: May 10, 2024, 09:19:51 pm »
Quite clearly has been using 4-2-3-1 and will probably continue with what works for him. Some people are taking this Klopp continuity too seriously. He's his own manager and will play very differently with the ball.

Also, Szobo will benefit the most and personally willing to bet he is in our top 2 best players next year if he plays LW or CAM.

Even so it won't be a rigid 4231, Klopp also used 4231 before coming to LFC. They key is to get the best out of your players, we have a world class player in Mac and TAA and by having two good midfielders who can defend very well we can give Mac and TAA freedom.

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« Reply #80281 on: May 10, 2024, 10:17:38 pm »
Even so it won't be a rigid 4231, Klopp also used 4231 before coming to LFC. They key is to get the best out of your players, we have a world class player in Mac and TAA and by having two good midfielders who can defend very well we can give Mac and TAA freedom.

Agreed, it won't be rigid. The formation will be quite fluid but there is a common theme of two midfielders with one ahead playing with the CF (more to do with defensive solidity down the middle which is responsible for very low xG against). It won't be a lone DM with two CMs roaming in front.

The inverting is still a thing so Trent will still have more involvement. The buildup is also more through the middle and not direct over the top. Better for players like Mac.

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« Reply #80283 on: May 11, 2024, 12:10:23 am »
Apart from Thiago, Matip and Adrian, who are out of contract this summer, I can't see anyone leaving before Slot has the chance to asses them in pre-season. Especially not the younger players ...

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« Reply #80284 on: May 11, 2024, 12:15:00 am »
Apart from Thiago, Matip and Adrian, who are out of contract this summer, I can't see anyone leaving before Slot has the chance to asses them in pre-season. Especially not the younger players ...

Maybe one or two of the loanees?

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« Reply #80285 on: May 11, 2024, 12:20:04 am »
Maybe one or two of the loanees?

I expect that everyone will be with the team during the pre-season. Slot will want to assess every player in training and in the pre-season games. Then, we can expect some departures in August ...

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« Reply #80286 on: May 11, 2024, 12:21:55 am »
If we keep Diaz (and all the rest of our forward options) I'd possibly lean towards not buying anyone else, as long as Doak is recovered. If, conversely, he wants to leave then fair enough, as long as we get a good replacement. Same with Nunez, or any of the forward options really.

I'm probably in the minority, but I'm pretty sound with our current squad, though Matip will need replacing, maybe a better DM. Wouldn't be against any shiny new attackers either mind, I just don't see them as a pressing need currently.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80287 on: May 11, 2024, 12:31:01 am »
Apart from Thiago, Matip and Adrian, who are out of contract this summer, I can't see anyone leaving before Slot has the chance to asses them in pre-season. Especially not the younger players ...
Phillips and Williams would be out for sure if they find clubs. Maybe a few others that don’t have a direct path to the first team.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80288 on: May 11, 2024, 08:14:34 am »
I expect that everyone will be with the team during the pre-season. Slot will want to assess every player in training and in the pre-season games. Then, we can expect some departures in August ...

I would think there will still be departures, some players will have decided to leave or offers will be on the table. Slot will not be all powerful in this new set-up either.
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« Reply #80289 on: May 11, 2024, 08:36:55 am »
Apart from Thiago, Matip and Adrian, who are out of contract this summer, I can't see anyone leaving before Slot has the chance to asses them in pre-season. Especially not the younger players ...

I guess if we have a few klopp/Linders signings we might be open to offers, I don’t think there’s a need for a major overhaul but then again, the difference a genuine world class player can make to the side compared to a good one is not to be underestimated, we do have a few players we could upgrade on

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« Reply #80290 on: May 11, 2024, 09:59:09 am »
Phillips and Williams would be out for sure if they find clubs. Maybe a few others that don’t have a direct path to the first team.

Phillips will likely see out his contract (2025) unless he wants to take a massive pay-cut elsewhere.
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« Reply #80291 on: May 11, 2024, 11:19:49 am »
That's a tough situation I'm sure Phillips as a footballer wants to play. But he's not at the top of the table so the income is an important issue for himself and his family.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80292 on: May 11, 2024, 01:17:56 pm »
Apart from Thiago, Matip and Adrian, who are out of contract this summer, I can't see anyone leaving before Slot has the chance to asses them in pre-season. Especially not the younger players ...

I think some people will want to know where they stand in the pecking order and then force moves if they don't like what Slot tells them.

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« Reply #80293 on: May 11, 2024, 01:19:03 pm »
I think some people will want to know where they stand in the pecking order and then force moves if they don't like what Slot tells them.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80294 on: May 11, 2024, 03:29:42 pm »
Do Olise or there has to be sackings

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« Reply #80295 on: May 11, 2024, 03:30:20 pm »
Do Olise or there has to be sackings

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« Reply #80296 on: May 11, 2024, 03:34:44 pm »
Apart from Thiago, Matip and Adrian, who are out of contract this summer, I can't see anyone leaving before Slot has the chance to asses them in pre-season. Especially not the younger players ...

I’m not sure. I’m fairly certain if a player has asked to leave we’ll have told them to find a buyer and this is around the price we want. Anyone in that situation could leave regardless of whether Slot wants them or not. There’s obviously been ongoing talk of Diaz/Salah and more recent talk of Gomez and now Darwin potentially looking to leave. I don’t tend to worry about the rumours and would be happy if all stayed as they’re top players who will be difficult to replace for varying reasons. I wouldn’t be shocked if there are a few exits though, it would only be normal if a few players wanted a change or felt like the timing was right with Klopp going.

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« Reply #80297 on: May 11, 2024, 04:32:09 pm »
Do Olise or there has to be sackings

Priority for us in summer.

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« Reply #80298 on: May 11, 2024, 04:50:34 pm »
Priority for us in summer.

Yep hopefully, seems perfect, age, price, delivering in this league already etc, should be ours if City don't go for him.

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« Reply #80299 on: May 11, 2024, 04:53:55 pm »
Yep hopefully, seems perfect, age, price, delivering in this league already etc, should be ours if City don't go for him.

Linked to Utd the most, be interesting if their new overloads hand out sancho style contracts from the off or if they’ve actually learned anything.

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« Reply #80300 on: May 11, 2024, 04:54:32 pm »
Few rumblings about our enquiry into Mohamed Amoura from Union Saint-Gilloise.

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« Reply #80301 on: May 11, 2024, 04:55:46 pm »
If we got Olise where would he play though? The 10 position or one of the wings? Doesn't seem to have top end pace and I would still be worried about his injury issues. I'd love Neto but he is an even worse sick note.

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« Reply #80302 on: May 11, 2024, 04:59:09 pm »
Few rumblings about our enquiry into Mohamed Amoura from Union Saint-Gilloise.

Doesn't seem like our usual type of signing, probably bullshit

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« Reply #80303 on: May 11, 2024, 05:04:04 pm »
That's why we're not "monitoring" mate. It's a level below.

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« Reply #80304 on: May 11, 2024, 05:06:05 pm »
Sign Olise and Eze.

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« Reply #80305 on: May 11, 2024, 05:06:44 pm »
Olise at 22 and with a buyout clause is looking like a no-brainer.

If we got Olise where would he play though? The 10 position or one of the wings? Doesn't seem to have top end pace and I would still be worried about his injury issues. I'd love Neto but he is an even worse sick note.

Salah looks primed to move into a more central position when you dig into his stats.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80306 on: May 11, 2024, 05:14:00 pm »
Doesn't seem like our usual type of signing, probably bullshit

Not too dissimilar to signing Minamino.
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« Reply #80307 on: May 11, 2024, 05:39:02 pm »
I’d be surprised if we’d go toe to toe with United for a player unless the player has said he definitely wants us over them. I don’t know much about Olise, but I do know United will have no qualms in offering him £300k a week to stop him from joining a rival and that’s probably double what we’d offer as a basic weekly salary. So it would really depend on Olise, does he want to leave London? Does he want to maximise his earnings potential or does he want to play for a club with their shit together, with a proven track record of allowing offensive players to flourish and are in the Champions League? Hopefully it’s the latter but I’d be amazed if we got into a bidding war with contracts with a club as reckless as United.

As for the relative unknowns like the USG player, I think the club will always be interested if we rate a player and they’re undervalued. I thought we might give the ‘sixth forward’ role to Doak/Gordon/Danns and let them slug it out, but maybe they go out on loan next year to get regular top level football under their belts?

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« Reply #80308 on: May 11, 2024, 05:54:34 pm »
I really hope we are eyeing this Francisco Conceicao. No murmurs yet, but he looks like a big talent.
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« Reply #80309 on: May 11, 2024, 06:06:37 pm »
Amoura i think is someone worth a risk rather than say Summerville
https://fbref.com/en/players/6597f8b6/Mohamed-El-Amine-Amoura

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« Reply #80310 on: May 11, 2024, 06:08:45 pm »
Amoura i think is someone worth a risk rather than say Summerville
https://fbref.com/en/players/6597f8b6/Mohamed-El-Amine-Amoura

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If we sell a forward i think it would be Diaz & replace him with Amoura

That would be ridiculous, the guy is 25 playing in France. We need to be upgrading our players, not downgrading.

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« Reply #80311 on: May 11, 2024, 06:12:23 pm »
That would be ridiculous, the guy is 25 playing in France. We need to be upgrading our players, not downgrading.
i would like to keep Diaz but we are clearly going very data driven think we may sell Diaz. I hope we dont

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« Reply #80312 on: May 11, 2024, 06:14:20 pm »
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« Reply #80313 on: May 11, 2024, 06:15:00 pm »
i would like to keep Diaz but we are clearly going very data driven think we may sell Diaz. I hope we dont

I dont mind us selling Diaz but we need to improve the players, not downgrade them. Id want someone like the guy from Napoli or Musiala, someone of that level.

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« Reply #80314 on: May 11, 2024, 06:21:44 pm »
That would be ridiculous, the guy is 25 playing in France. We need to be upgrading our players, not downgrading.

He’s not even playing in France, he’s playing in Belgium.

I wouldn’t be opposed to a move if the club rate him, but he shouldn’t be seen as a replacement for any of our players, more of a compliment/bench option. Going from Belgium to the top end of the PL is a huge leap for any player, the fee should reflect that, but his place in our squad should, too.

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« Reply #80315 on: May 11, 2024, 06:23:15 pm »
We should be going for players that are lower risk because we already have enough kids that we're developing. We're not a kindergarten, we want to win too.


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« Reply #80316 on: May 11, 2024, 06:37:24 pm »
i would like to keep Diaz but we are clearly going very data driven think we may sell Diaz. I hope we dont

I was a bit disappointed with Diaz earlier in the season hes no Mane. But the last month he was by far our best forward so would like to keep him too. Now if he wants to leave to Barcelona or psg for £60m he can fuck off.

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« Reply #80317 on: May 11, 2024, 06:55:35 pm »
If either of them come for Diaz, especially PSG, we should be getting more than £60m.
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« Reply #80318 on: May 11, 2024, 06:57:42 pm »
If we ultimately move for a forward, it shouldn’t be for depth. We saw limitations with our attack in the second half of the season, so we need to target someone who’s an upgrade.
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« Reply #80319 on: May 11, 2024, 07:12:17 pm »
I’m not sure. I’m fairly certain if a player has asked to leave we’ll have told them to find a buyer and this is around the price we want. Anyone in that situation could leave regardless of whether Slot wants them or not. There’s obviously been ongoing talk of Diaz/Salah and more recent talk of Gomez and now Darwin potentially looking to leave. I don’t tend to worry about the rumours and would be happy if all stayed as they’re top players who will be difficult to replace for varying reasons. I wouldn’t be shocked if there are a few exits though, it would only be normal if a few players wanted a change or felt like the timing was right with Klopp going.

Why would a player ask to leave, unless he is told that he is not in Slot's plans? And why would Slot dismiss any player, before he has the chance to see him in pre-season? It doesn't make sense ...