Topic: 4th place is lava, who'll get it?

[MonsLibpool]

Man Utd surely.

[darragh85]

the referee might actually favour us on wednesday.

[BobOnATank]

Time to change the title of this thread to 5th place.

31 points from last 36. We are walking this.

You are, you lot could lose half of your remaining games and still finish 4th.

[rushyman]

North London Derby is looking like a decider in this

[Red Cactii]

You are, you lot could lose half of your remaining games and still finish 4th.

If they avoid defeat against Spurs, United and West Ham it'll basically be impossible for those three to catch them.

[Morgana]

I hope Arsenal pull through.  They should be in the Champions League. And it would cheer my brother up immensely.

[farawayred]

I hope Arsenal pull through.  They should be in the Champions League. And it would cheer my brother up immensely.

Arsenal will not finish 4th. They will get 3rd if the play the way they have of late. A while back I said that half-jokingly that Chelsea will finish 4th, but I'm beginning to believe that more with the staff going around at the plastics.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

I feel sorry for our boy Northy, but you have to take them points off someone else

[newterp]

Arsenal only have 1 game in hand in Spurs and lead by 3.

2 games on ManU and West Ham - they lead ManU by 1 and west ham by 3.

Games in hand are Chelsea and Spurs?

Ugh - Spurs could still squeak this.

[him_15]

Whoever but United please.

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

Arsenal comfortably

[El Lobo]

Remaining games (Home in bold)

Arsenal

Villa, Palace, Brighton, Southampton, Chelsea, United, West Ham, Leeds, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs

Spurs

West Ham, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton, Brentford, Leicester, Liverpool, Burnley, Norwich, Arsenal

United

Leicester, Everton, Norwich, Liverpool, Arsenal, Brentford, Brighton, Chelsea, Palace


Next two are absolutely colossal for Arsenal, they've got to this point by beating 'everyone below them'. If they can go to Villa and Palace and win, I think they'll get 4th comfortably. If not, I suspect it'll be Spurs looking at their fixtures and Sir Harry playing for a move again.

[Gili Gulu]

Remaining games (Home in bold)

Arsenal

Villa, Palace, Brighton, Southampton, Chelsea, United, West Ham, Leeds, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs

Spurs

West Ham, Newcastle, Villa, Brighton, Brentford, Leicester, Liverpool, Burnley, Norwich, Arsenal

United

Leicester, Everton, Norwich, Liverpool, Arsenal, Brentford, Brighton, Chelsea, Palace


Next two are absolutely colossal for Arsenal, they've got to this point by beating 'everyone below them'. If they can go to Villa and Palace and win, I think they'll get 4th comfortably. If not, I suspect it'll be Spurs looking at their fixtures and Sir Harry playing for a move again.

I sometimes think you're better off at this stage playing teams towards the middle like Brighton, Palace, Villa, rather than teams at the bottom like Newcastle, Burnley, Everton, and even more so when it gets to the last three or four games.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

I sometimes think you're better off at this stage playing teams towards the middle like Brighton, Palace, Villa, rather than teams at the bottom like Newcastle, Burnley, Everton, and even more so when it gets to the last three or four games.

Yeah, Brighton and Southampton are currently the easiest game you can have as both seem to be on the beach.

Looking at the fixtures I honestly think Spurs will do it. They have more home games and play Arsenal at home, which is the key fixture. Arsenal strangely have 7 away games and four at home, whilst Spurs have 6 home games and 4 away. That's a huge advantage.

[Crosby Nick]

Yeah, Brighton and Southampton are currently the easiest game you can have as both seem to be on the beach.

They are probably the two closest to it.

[Goalposts for Jumpers]

Yeah, Brighton and Southampton are currently the easiest game you can have as both seem to be on the beach.

Looking at the fixtures I honestly think Spurs will do it. They have more home games and play Arsenal at home, which is the key fixture. Arsenal strangely have 7 away games and four at home, whilst Spurs have 6 home games and 4 away. That's a huge advantage.

Spurs have by far the easiest set of fixtures, but they seem to be doing better against decent teams than they are against the dross.

I reckon Utd will get it - another corner turned. Next year will be their year, etc, etc.

[PeterTheRed ...]

It would be nice if Man Utd finish out of the top 4, even though it won't change much in the big picture. They are fucked anyway. As for the other 3 contenders, for us is probably the best if West Ham finish 4th ...

[Schmidt]

Yeah, Brighton and Southampton are currently the easiest game you can have as both seem to be on the beach.

I wonder if Brighton are on the beach or not, they seemed to collapse shortly after they sold Dan Burn to Newcastle, with Newcastle seeing a huge improvement in results around the same time.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

I wonder if Brighton are on the beach or not, they seemed to collapse shortly after they sold Dan Burn to Newcastle, with Newcastle seeing a huge improvement in results around the same time.

I can categorically state that Dan Burn has absolutely nothing to do with either of those things.

[Terry de Niro]

Arsenal's to lose now.

[MonsLibpool]

Man Utd lol

[rocco]

Arsenal but then it’s Arsenal

[The North Bank]

We ll bottle it , we always do . It’s between United and Spurs

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Spurs are still in it, if they beat Arsenal. Arsenal avoid defeat there and it's done and dusted.

[Crosby Nick]

We ll bottle it , we always do . It’s between United and Spurs

Don’t be so hard on yourself. Most teams will lose to us.

[Yorkykopite]

We ll bottle it , we always do . It’s between United and Spurs

It's true. Arsenal do usually bottle it. It's a southern thing I think. But Man United are cack and Spurs are bottlers too, so you should be all right. Not that you'll do anything in the European Cup.  It's not really a competition for Arsenal is it?

[The North Bank]

It's true. Arsenal do usually bottle it. It's a southern thing I think. But Man United are cack and Spurs are bottlers too, so you should be all right. Not that you'll do anything in the European Cup.  It's not really a competition for Arsenal is it?

No it’s not for us. I think if we get there we won’t get out of the groups. We ll bottle the groups, and if we do get through, we ll bottle the first knock out round. If we get past that , then we ll bottle the next  round after that. We always do.

[Yorkykopite]

No it’s not for us. I think if we get there we won’t get out of the groups. We ll bottle the groups, and if we do get through, we ll bottle the first knock out round. If we get past that , then we ll bottle the next  round after that. We always do.

You did get the Final once I think. Can't remember what happened.

[The North Bank]

You did get the Final once I think. Can't remember what happened.

Wouldnt be surprised if we bottled that too

[Terry de Niro]

Wouldnt be surprised if we bottled that too

Could have been so different if Jens Lehmann wouldn't have had a brain fart so early in the game, that resulted in him walking.
Wasn't Robert Pires sacrificed for your sub goalie as well?

[rushyman]

We ll bottle it , we always do . It’s between United and Spurs

Now you’re getting it

I was getting worried about your arrogance

More of this please

[kavah]

We ll bottle it , we always do . It’s between United and Spurs

I think you'll stroll it now but it would be great for Arsenal to Welly Spurs and Man U in the process

[The North Bank]

I think you'll stroll it now but it would be great for Arsenal to Welly Spurs and Man U in the process

I can’t wait to play them. United at home especially.

Another team drops out of the race today when Spurs host west ham . Whoever loses is done , draw doesn’t help either.

[MonsLibpool]

I can’t wait to play them. United at home especially.

Another team drops out of the race today when Spurs host west ham . Whoever loses is done , draw doesn’t help either.

I tipped you guys in November because you have the hallmark of a top 4 side; beating teams you should beat. There's a lot of room for improvement against the elite sides though.

United are crap like I've been saying and Spurs are Spurs.

[The North Bank]

I tipped you guys in November because you have the hallmark of a top 4 side; beating teams you should beat. There's a lot of room for improvement against the elite sides though.

United are crap like I've been saying and Spurs are Spurs.

Yeh it was about that time when I thought we had a chance, I wouldnt have made us favourites then but that has been the case for the last couple of months, only it wasnt something I could say on here because most were adamant wed finish 8th again and it was just the typical Arsenal hysteria to claim that we are building a motivated determined disciplined team, it really upset people far more than it should. So I chose to tip Man utd or Spurs , to equal derision and accusations of trolling, because they are shit, sometimes you cant win.

We have a lot of room to improve to compete with the elite, the elite being Liverpool and Man city. We still have a gap to chelsea too, that would be the one to aim at next.
Liverpool have 5 amazing strikers, we have none, the weak areas are clear and Arteta is showing that he is getting the right profile players in, so we ll go again in the summer, hopefully with CL money in the bag. Good times.

[MonsLibpool]

Yeh it was about that time when I thought we had a chance, I wouldnt have made us favourites then but that has been the case for the last couple of months, only it wasnt something I could say on here because most were adamant wed finish 8th again and it was just the typical Arsenal hysteria to claim that we are building a motivated determined disciplined team, it really upset people far more than it should. So I chose to tip Man utd or Spurs , to equal derision and accusations of trolling, because they are shit, sometimes you cant win.

We have a lot of room to improve to compete with the elite, the elite being Liverpool and Man city. We still have a gap to chelsea too, that would be the one to aim at next.
Liverpool have 5 amazing strikers, we have none, the weak areas are clear and Arteta is showing that he is getting the right profile players in, so we ll go again in the summer, hopefully with CL money in the bag. Good times.

All the best mate.

[KurtVerbose]

I think there'll be a long term re-alignment of the top four coming.

I just can't see Chelsea being as well funded in the future, and when you look at their fundamentals - revenue, how well they're run, how much investment is needed in the team (they have a lot of players at end of contract) I can't see them sitting comfortably in third place in future years. Next year will be a real test for them. If they don't maintain their CL status they'll drop sponsors and TV revenue. They won't be able to attract top players or pay them top wages/transfer fees.

Arsenal and even Spurs look good for overtaking them and that leaves them fighting West Ham for a Europa League spot. Never mind what happens in Saudia Upon Tyne.

Unfortunately for Chelsea, the big money that was spent in the early years of AB's ownership was on players and not infrastructure. They'd have done better long term to have invested it in a new stadium. It makes no financial sense for the new owners to do that now.

[MonsLibpool]

I think there'll be a long term re-alignment of the top four coming.

I just can't see Chelsea being as well funded in the future, and when you look at their fundamentals - revenue, how well they're run, how much investment is needed in the team (they have a lot of players at end of contract) I can't see them sitting comfortably in third place in future years. Next year will be a real test for them. If they don't maintain their CL status they'll drop sponsors and TV revenue. They won't be able to attract top players or pay them top wages/transfer fees.

Arsenal and even Spurs look good for overtaking them and that leaves them fighting West Ham for a Europa League spot. Never mind what happens in Saudia Upon Tyne.

Unfortunately for Chelsea, the big money that was spent in the early years of AB's ownership was on players and not infrastructure. They'd have done better long term to have invested it in a new stadium. It makes no financial sense for the new owners to do that now.

It might be better for Chelsea to focus on their Academy. For example, promoting Broja would have been better than wasting £100m on Lukaku.

[Tobelius]

I think there'll be a long term re-alignment of the top four coming.

I just can't see Chelsea being as well funded in the future, and when you look at their fundamentals - revenue, how well they're run, how much investment is needed in the team (they have a lot of players at end of contract) I can't see them sitting comfortably in third place in future years. Next year will be a real test for them. If they don't maintain their CL status they'll drop sponsors and TV revenue. They won't be able to attract top players or pay them top wages/transfer fees.

Arsenal and even Spurs look good for overtaking them and that leaves them fighting West Ham for a Europa League spot. Never mind what happens in Saudia Upon Tyne.

Unfortunately for Chelsea, the big money that was spent in the early years of AB's ownership was on players and not infrastructure. They'd have done better long term to have invested it in a new stadium. It makes no financial sense for the new owners to do that now.

Yeah kind of expecting,well guessing them to revert slowly back to upper mid table finishes,without knowing their new owners hard to say.

If that happens and depending on how United,Arsenal and Spurs progress could make an interesting top four tussle between them again assuming ourselves and Abu Dhabi stay largely as good as we are,the Saudis i think are going to try to get up there as fast as they can with their unlimited wealth backing them as well and are i feel in the future going to permanently take a spot up there.

Arsenal look the most solid at the moment,have a clear way they play,stable looking hierarchy and a capable manager.

[Suareznumber7]

Arteta's actually done a really good job with Arsenal.  Think they'll get 4th comfortably when it's all said and done.  They are only 5 points behind Chelsea who many thought were in the title race not too long ago.