I have said it is pre Islam many times. I have said it is practiced by non Muslims many times. I freely accept it has been condemned by certain Islamic authorities, I've even pointed out that it is illegal or banned in many Muslim majority countries. There's no point in repeating my posts back to me. You're not listening.
What you're ignoring is the other parts of Islam where FGM has widespread acceptance and religious justification. You're ignoring places like Indonesia where 200 million Muslims are told FGM is morally recommended. I specifically asked you to explain that and you ignored the request and resumed your normal practice of repeating things I've already admitted.
Once again. If FGM is not Islamic, why do so many Muslims do it as a religious requirement?
Research Report commissioned by USAID
http://www.popcouncil.org/uploads/pdfs/frontiers/reports/Indonesia_FGM.pdfFemale Circumcision in
Indonesia Extent, Implications and Possible Interventions to
Uphold Women’s Health Rights
"Parents and religious leaders alike were found to have no significant knowledge on
the formal links between FC and Islam.
We can conclude that the practice of FC in
Indonesia is essentially a tradition which has been passed from one generation to the next
with little questioning about its meaning or its basis in Islamic history or law. Many
adhere to, and pass down, this tradition simply because elders and grandparents wish to
preserve this practice in the younger generations. "
"Unfortunately,
individual interpretation in various places has turned this cultural
tradition into a religious doctrine that commands FC as a basic element of religious faith,
similar to the abstention of pork in daily food. They declared FC practices as a required
act of purification, or a pre-condition to become a Muslim (Ramali, 1951, cited in Feillard
and Marcoes, 1998; Adrina et al, 1998; Tatapangarsa, 1980; Research Team of LSPPA,
1999). In Limbangan, Central Java, the Islamic religious leaders perceived that FC is
required by the Islamic law (sunnah or recommended by the Prophet), a duty for male
believers as well as for the females. However, the researchers found out that in reality
circumcision was practiced by non-Islamic Javanese too, a practice inherited as a custom
or tradition (Research Team of LSPPA, 1999). "
UNICEF Report - The most comprehensive study on all reasons for FGM down to the last detail
http://www.unicef.org/esaro/FGCM_Lo_res.pdf"FGM/C is often seen to be somehow connected to Islam, a view that is perhaps unsurprising given the frequency with which it is practised
by many Muslim African groups. However, not all Islamic groups practise FGM/C, and many non-Islamic groups do. Gruenbaum has emphasized
that followers of all three monotheistic religions – Christianity, Judaism and Islam– “have at times practised female circumcision
and consider their practices sanctioned, or at least not prohibited, by God.”121 Despite the fact that FGM/C predates the birth of Islam and Christianity and is not mandated by religious scriptures, the belief that it is a religious requirement contributes to the continuation
of the practice in a number of settings.
A great deal of effort by scholars and activists has concentrated on demonstrating a lack of scriptural support for the practice. In Egypt, for example,
the most authoritative condemnation of FGM/C in Islam to date is the 2007 fatwa (religious edict) issued by the Al-Azhar Supreme Council of Islamic
Research, explaining that FGM/C has no basis in Sharia (Islamic law) or any of its partial provisions, and that it is a sinful action that should
be avoided. Several regional and national fatwas have followed in the years since, with the original statement as their basis.124 In Sudan, a national campaign is working to promote the positive association of Islam to saleema, a term identified and widely promoted to describe a happy, healthy girl who is uncut, as God made her.125 In Senegal, religious leaders have played an important role in publicly addressing the practice, confirming that FGM/C is not sanctioned anywhere in Islam or the Koran and violates a woman’s dignity.126
However, because religious beliefs often exist alongside other social norms surrounding FGM/C, the lack of clear scriptural dictates does not automatically
cause religious motivation for the practice to diminish. "
A majority of muslim women do not undergo FGM. If it were any sort of religious requirement, you could be certain that they would have, just like men do.
Because the hundereds of ulemas across the world know their religion and are not saying nonsense. Jurisprudence is not "religion" per se, it is a legal ruling by a Jurist. Sunnahs mean tradition which exist for everything , e g. eating a date after a meal is a sunnah. Means a tradition. You think this is a religious requirement and muslims all over the world eat dates because of this? There is also miswaak, which is teeth cleaning twig made from the Salvadora persica tree (known as arak in Arabic) and which is a sunnah and recommended by jurists to clean teeth. Does that mean muslims dont use tooth brush?
I am done with this FGM debate, if you wish, start a new topic on it. It really shouldnt be in a thread of political Islam.
