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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #720 on: August 31, 2012, 11:11:35 pm »
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From the director of communications at Fulham, Sarah Brookes, 30 minutes ago outside Motspur park, "Liverpool only offered £3m for Dempsey".

If thats true, what the fuck are they playing at?

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #721 on: August 31, 2012, 11:11:40 pm »
Better this than having to make a Carroll type signing again. We've spent enough money, we dont know whether it was spent well or not yet but let's just see how Rodgers implements his system first before flipping out. It doesnt matter if we WANT 20 mill pounds spent on deadline day but dont we all have to work withing our budget ? Also every sane person associated with the club agrees that it'll take time to implement BR's philosophy ( year 0 and all ) so let's just take it as it comes. Nobody will actually complain if we see a decent (20 - 30 million net spend each window / summer )

I'm actually looking forward to see some of our youngsters, it'd make a nice change. Keep our expectations in check ( the owners/manager everybody's said so ) and support our team in what should hopefully be a good season.

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #722 on: August 31, 2012, 11:11:52 pm »
OUTS

Kuyt
Maxi
Aurelio
Bellamy
Amoo
Darby
Aquilani
Carroll
Adam
Spearing
Ecclestone

Maybe wilson to follow.  Pacheco move fell through, dont know about doni, gulasaci yet either.

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Sahin
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Yesil

Improved contracts for suarez and skrtl. 

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #723 on: August 31, 2012, 11:11:56 pm »
If they had stuck with Kennys players, and his style and the players had failed this season fair enough, they threw the whole lot out instead.

It's cos the whole lot were shite.

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« Reply #724 on: August 31, 2012, 11:11:58 pm »
Ok Suarez and Borini are both out for 3 months who plays up top?

Yesil and Morgan.  :butt

but I would prefer Gerrard to play there.

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #725 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:12 pm »
Why the fxck would any supporter care about how much FSG reduced the wage bill by?  That only benefits them, not the team or any supporter. 

Waken up to what's going on ffs.

What we become the English Glasgow Rangers - FFS wake up - We are in the middle of a world economic disaster and you think football is immune to such nonsense - Lets not forget FSG stopped us hitting the wall.

So yeah it fucking matters that Cole is on 5-6 m a year for fuck all, it matters that we were paying shit loads of money to players
that stood no fucking chance of playing and we paid over the odds for young players with potential. These mistakes need to be corrected too

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #726 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:20 pm »
If they had stuck with Kennys players, and his style and the players had failed this season fair enough, they threw the whole lot out instead.

play was good last year, only thing was missing was goals

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #727 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:20 pm »
Frankly, if I was Brendan I'd resign. Obviously been told lies and has now been hung out to dry by his MD.
Frankly, if I were you, I'd resign from posting.  Obviously you know absolutely no concrete details about what has happened.

The most likely scenario with regard to Dempsey is that Fulham wouldn't let him come to us for the same price they'd have let him go to Villa or Spurs.  As a football club, you simply don't let some small-time club like Fulham jerk you around like that.  You can't do it.  It sets a precedent that because you're Liverpool, you pay more.

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #728 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:30 pm »
I feel this is a big night for LFC, one way or the other.

FSG lost a lot of friends that is for sure.
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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #729 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:37 pm »
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From the director of communications at Fulham, Sarah Brookes, 30 minutes ago outside Motspur park, "Liverpool only offered £3m for Dempsey".

If thats true, what the fuck are they playing at?

If true, that is an insult.

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #730 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:50 pm »
Adam Day™ ‏@AdamDo_DaDay
From the director of communications at Fulham, Sarah Brookes, 30 minutes ago outside Motspur park, "Liverpool only offered £3m for Dempsey".

If thats true, what the fuck are they playing at?

Why would you believe what the spokesman for a club that was not willing to sell to us says?

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #731 on: August 31, 2012, 11:12:58 pm »
Southampton spent the same almount
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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #732 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:04 pm »
Did people expect FSG to keep picking up the tab so to speak. We've spent about 15m net. The only shit bit of business is getting rid of Carroll without a replacement. But we've got rid of the elephant in the room for the time being.

When we were going to sell Agger for 20m or so to re invest in the squad everyone was going apeshit. We havent done that and everyone is sill kicking off. Would you rather we sold our best players (like spurs) to sign Dempsey and Sigurdsson? Or would you keep Suarez/Agger and sign Borini and Allen.

Stop moaning for moanings sake. 15m net next year with probably an extra 15m for Carroll included will be a decent budget to build on this squad. With the likes of Sterling etc being a year older.


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« Reply #733 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:05 pm »
Rory smith confirming Kenny blew the only investment that FSG were prepared to put into transfers. No more is coming.
Also it is a bit of a myth that Kenny spent £100m+, when you take into account the reduction in wages and getting rid of dross, the figure minus Babel & Torres fee I believe is closer to £35m-£40m. We make roughly £25m a year in profit.
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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #734 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:06 pm »
It's disappointing, and I feel that Rodgers has been let down by FSG at the last minute, but I think we've got enough, with these players to stay in contention. If we don't do something in the January window, then it looks like we are a bit fucked.

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #735 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:07 pm »
fucking hell.

relax.assiadi sterling gerrard suarez cole morgan and yesil are there for the forward positions.

sahin allen shelvey henderson lucas for the midfield.

we'll be ok till december.

this squad won't be built in one window.
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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #736 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:08 pm »
I'm not understanding this, Rodgers has been allowed to splash out substantially on Borini & Allen plus the few others. It went tits up today so the rebuilding was thwarted. Do people expect cash to be thrown to satisfy us lot? There has to be measured and tactical thinking behind all signings.


Oh come on.  Least we expected was a replacement for letting Carroll go on loan.  And what's the net spend?  Considering wages saved?

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #737 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:13 pm »
so much optimism and goodwill now blown away in such a short space of time,all they had to do was buy a striker even on loan,this is a turning point for FSG
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« Reply #738 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:34 pm »
6 more than we can field at any one time. why are people complaining....

Come on. It's a worrying observation. 11 on the pitch, 4 subs. 1 or 2 injuries (we have a major player out for 2-3 months) and we have got problems. Most of the top sides have 2 players fighting it out for every position.

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #739 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:34 pm »
Well done Ian Ayre. Played a blinder. Not

Wish people would stop dumping this on Ayre's lap. He is strictly a pawn for FSG.
It is clear that FSG are not willing to make the necessary investment to field a Champions League caliber club.
How we can let Carroll go and have absolutely zero backup for Suarez is incredible. Can you imagine if Suarez picks up another 8 game ban or gets injured.

I cannot understand how we spend 7m on the likes of Adam, but now don't have 7m for Dempsey.
Unbelievably amateurish.
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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #740 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:34 pm »
Couldn't we even get a half decent loan signing for a striker if we didn't have any dough ??

We tried for Sturridge. He was keen on it too apparently. But i don't think Chelsea were with no other signing
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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #741 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:42 pm »


So, who is it?

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #742 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:43 pm »
That's not what the thread is about or indeed perhaps not what FSG's intentions are about mate.
Really thought it said what's going on.  And it's bloody obvious what's going on.
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« Reply #743 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:51 pm »
Why would you believe what the spokesman for a club that was not willing to sell to us says?

Why would Sarah lie?
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« Reply #744 on: August 31, 2012, 11:13:52 pm »
We spent the same amount this window as Southampton...

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #745 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:00 pm »
If Brendan keeps us in the hunt for 4th by January he would have done fantastic, and I would hope FSG then back him financially with some investment.

Cleared a lot of deadwood out but I still feel we are at least one quality forward short of what we needed to cope with so many games.
If we're in the top half come January I'll be happy.

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« Reply #746 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:02 pm »
Fulham were determined to stop Dempsey coming to us after the way things had gone. I wouldn't be surprised if Spurs offerd less than us.

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« Reply #747 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:03 pm »
Frankly, if I was Brendan I'd resign. Obviously been told lies and has now been hung out to dry by his MD.

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« Reply #748 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:03 pm »
We're still paying from last summer.

That transfer window will haunt us for years, and what do we have to show for it? We sold Adam, loaned Carroll out. We have Downing, who is now being played at a different position than what he was signed for. And of course Henderson, who we also tried to offload today.

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« Reply #749 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:07 pm »
Ahhh rite, so we haven't bought anyone this window have we :lmao

We didn't buy a forward that we desperately needed. :lmao

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #750 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:18 pm »
Anyone see the tweet/pic Titi Camara tweeted? ;D


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« Reply #751 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:32 pm »
If they had stuck with Kennys players, and his style and the players had failed this season fair enough, they threw the whole lot out instead.

I agree with this, I thought we were good last year on the whole but just missed to many chances. If they were prepared to rip up all that work and start again then surely they would have expected to invest some money.


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« Reply #752 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:48 pm »
Not sure why FSG are getting all the blame, Rodgers decided to get rid of Carroll before having a replacement.

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« Reply #753 on: August 31, 2012, 11:14:55 pm »
OUTS

Kuyt
Maxi
Aurelio
Bellamy
Amoo
Darby
Aquilani
Carroll
Adam
Spearing
Ecclestone

Maybe wilson to follow.  Pacheco move fell through, dont know about doni, gulasaci yet either.

INS

Borini
Allen
Sahin
Assaidi
Yesil

Improved contracts for suarez and skrtl.

 Gulasaci is on loan in Spain. Doni is on compassionate leave in Brazil. Also plenty of rumours about Agger getting a new contract now that he has stayed.

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« Reply #754 on: August 31, 2012, 11:15:09 pm »
I just cant see us getting back to where we once were under FSG. The fact that they cant fork out an extra couple of million really worries me.

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« Reply #755 on: August 31, 2012, 11:15:12 pm »
Fucking made up Agger stayed. Best bit of the window for me!!
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« Reply #756 on: August 31, 2012, 11:15:14 pm »
Getting rid of Carroll was only viable if there was an option there ready to take his place. The Dempsey deal was clearly designed to be brokered on the edge of the window, high-stakes style take it or leave it: the club has been bested by Spurs, who found the true value in the deal lied in the fact that Fulham didn't appreciate our approach - meant to save us the pittance of a few million - and would look to screw us as a result. Putting all the club's eggs in the proverbial basket meant that the club never had the strength of its convictions to bluff its way around a deal, and as a result we are left in the only position possible after Fulham called our bluff: completely short of squad striker options, meaning we face another season of blunted attacks. Once we had the spear of Torres leading the line, clinically dispatching teams with the precision of a surgeon: now we have the mad profligacy of Suarez, all flawed genius: yet we're faced with the same dilemma that we've encountered for the last five years, as inadequate backup is all we're left with after the squad enters yet another several-year plan of rebuilding that leaves us without anything to go on.

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Re: What's really going on? Selling, 'rebuilding the squad', what?
« Reply #757 on: August 31, 2012, 11:15:26 pm »
fucking hell.

relax.assiadi sterling gerrard suarez cole morgan and yesil are there for the forward positions.

sahin allen shelvey henderson lucas for the midfield.

we'll be ok till december.

this squad won't be built in one window.

Suarez who's finishing is quite terrible, Borini who has just joined and is still very young, Assiadi who nobody knows how he will turn out, Cole who is shit, and 3 youngsters, our options upfront are terrible.

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« Reply #758 on: August 31, 2012, 11:15:27 pm »
No, but you cant argue that not replacing Carroll effectively is an astute move. That wasn't measured, it was stupid. You just have to look at the playing numbers. I have no problem with Carroll leaving. I dont think he is suited to us. But, better him than an 18 year old and Suarez to start all games, which is the situation now.
Not that he's an out-and-out striker but as far as I know Dempsey was the only person lined up very very early (11 July to be precise). So I'm wondering why are people blaming FSG rather than Rodgers for not having a striker? And as a few have agreed in a different thread, there is business sense in losing Andy no - not that all will agree on that.

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« Reply #759 on: August 31, 2012, 11:15:33 pm »
Some right fickle twats in here! the same fickle twats who'll be jumping back on the bandwagon when we beat Arsenal on Sunday no doubt.

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