Topic: Liverpool owner Hicks selling Texas Rangers shares

[fry]

Can someone post on .tv for me?  ask if aylesbyred is anticipating anything or is he just been taking the piss all along?  There seems to be still a certain cockiness to his posts like he is lapping it up.

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=101929&page=13

[electricghost]

Ahh bless him though, I dont think he undertands all that has gone on.

Yes that is what happens when you view things through Hicks tinted spectacles

[reddwarf12003]

Be patient, still 10 hrs of today left.. Could be just crossing the t's and doting the I's.

Have to stay of the special fags!

[TepidT2O]

Look.....

Some bloke with a tea towel on his head gets shown around the club and people put 2+2 together and make 6.

This is as likely to be a ruse by H&G to drum up interest as anything else.

[west_london_red]

Indeed you do.

And the bank are probably getting a bit jittery, because they've now realised that the car you told them was worth £9k is actually only worth £2k

Mate I dont even have a car, I have a travelcard!

[fry]

Mate I dont even have a car, I have a travelcard!

Transport that fits in the wallet!

[electricghost]

Look.....

Some bloke with a tea towel on his head gets shown around the club and people put 2+2 together and make 6.

This is as likely to be a ruse by H&G to drum up interest as anything else.

We are slowly gathering information on this guy it seems, we know the following,

1  He wears a long black trenchcoat
2  He wears dark glasses, (possibly shades)
3  He has a tea towel on his head

We are narrowing this down nicely.

[fry]

We are slowly gathering information on this guy it seems, we know the following,

1  He wears a long black trenchcoat
2  He wears dark glasses, (possibly shades)
3  He has a tea towel on his head

We are narrowing this down nicely.

They could have been those new reaction glasses from specsavers so may appeared as normal glasses in the night.

[reddwarf12003]

   

[reddwarf12003]

Spinning....I canno take it anymore

[maj]

this thread should be locked. f all is gonna be announced today. theres 3 months before the deadline, and any announcement will be made after the season ends.

[12Kings]

this thread should be locked. f all is gonna be announced today. theres 3 months before the deadline, and any announcement will be made after the season ends.

So is he going to anounce he's selling Texas Rangers?

[reddwarf12003]

Agree should be locked now. Talking complete B****** should have a special thread.
 

[electricghost]

this thread should be locked. f all is gonna be announced today. theres 3 months before the deadline, and any announcement will be made after the season ends.

Mr mod, I think you are on the wrong forum. If this thread offends you please don't visit it. It is very simple really.

[4pool]

In 4pools world...I go by the facts.

That is why I have said in two seperate posts---if the article is true.

Regardless of G&H having guarantees for some of the loan and they do it's just the amount in question, that means that they are on the hook for their portion.

It also means the banks portion of the loan is less than the full amount. Hence, lower interest payments to meet.

I realize simplifying things puts me in a bad light due to the group think that has gone on for 18 months or so but I am just interested in the facts of the loan.


Lastly, new owners are not going to be sugar daddy's and dump huge amounts of personal cash into the club--imho. They will put guarantees in place themselves. And like Roman it may be in the form of some cash loans. Then again it may not. but guarantees means the club can draw down from them when necessary. So at some point it can become cash to the club.

Regardless though, new owners will want their money back at some point and in some fashion. They won't accept 0% return annually. So any money paid back to them means the clubs accounts are reduced by that amount.

New owners may take higher amounts out to repay themselves. Or they might not. The future is uncertain until it happens.


That is 4pool world.

[Something Else]

In 4pools world...I go by the facts.



It also means the banks portion of the loan is less than the full amount. Hence, lower interest payments to meet.




That is 4pool world.

Can you explain this to me please?

[electricghost]

It also means the banks portion of the loan is less than the full amount. Hence, lower interest payments to meet.

The interest payments are made based upon the amount of money borrowed. The guarantees given don't come into the equation until the interest payments cannot be met.

[reddwarf12003]

      
I Know one thing that is strange. the ticket freeze hasn't appeared anywhere bar .TV r the echo.. even everton got a mention when they frooze the price.

In economic terms. The first thing people do if they need money is put the prices up.(Look at the government),  first thing banks generally say to you is how much you charging. So what's with them 2...
 
What r they softning the blow for. (you know give you something before they take)

Sell a player r 2, The training ground...Shared stadium.

[west_london_red]

In 4pools world...I go by the facts.

Lastly, new owners are not going to be sugar daddy's and dump huge amounts of personal cash into the club--imho. They will put guarantees in place themselves. And like Roman it may be in the form of some cash loans. Then again it may not.

That is 4pool world.

[4H_Poker]

Can you explain this to me please?

Me too ... Cuz if this is the way it works ... Can I borrow a car loan from you, 4pool ? .. I'll guarantee 100% of it ... that should get me an interest free loan, right ?

[Regi]

The interest payments are made based upon the amount of money borrowed. The guarantees given don't come into the equation until the interest payments cannot be met.

This is my understanding too.
Basic as that is.

[JJ Red]

      
What r they softning the blow for. (you know give you something before they take)

Sell a player r 2, The training ground...Shared stadium.

That's a very good point. It seems very much against everything that appears to be going on with the two of them. The more you think about it the more suspicious and worried you could get.

[Regi]

this thread should be locked. f all is gonna be announced today. theres 3 months before the deadline, and any announcement will be made after the season ends.

Is that even a bad thing?
IMO the current time is not the time to be announcing any big changes regarding ownership.
Let the season end and give the lads the attention now

[edeyj]

In 4pools world...I go by the facts.

Having read your posts in the past, I would say you look at the facts when it suits your purpose. Other times you make as many assumptions as others. So join the club!

[Something Else]

Me too ... Cuz if this is the way it works ... Can I borrow a car loan from you, 4pool ? .. I'll guarantee 100% of it ... that should get me an interest free loan, right ?

that Bentley I have had my eye on..... I will have it

[west_london_red]

      
I Know one thing that is strange. the ticket freeze hasn't appeared anywhere bar .TV r the echo.. even everton got a mention when they frooze the price.

In economic terms. The first thing people do if they need money is put the prices up.(Look at the government),  first thing banks generally say to you is how much you charging. So what's with them 2...
 
What r they softning the blow for. (you know give you something before they take)

Sell a player r 2, The training ground...Shared stadium.

Depends on the type of product and its 'elasticity' as to what effect price increases have on revenue.

[reddwarf12003]

You know what i mean though, you put £2 a game would be the same a scum £1 or there abouts. Its weird

[maj]

Mr mod, I think you are on the wrong forum. If this thread offends you please don't visit it. It is very simple really.

doesnt it even both you that people are spreading nonsense around. most of it is utter bs and peoples hopes get up and then flattened.

[maj]

Is that even a bad thing?
IMO the current time is not the time to be announcing any big changes regarding ownership.
Let the season end and give the lads the attention now

Regi, I agree with what your saying, and thats how it will play out. So when people post stuff and then it gets taken as gospel and people believe it, it does not help. So many people thought there was gonna be a announcement today...

[Bogman]

Right you lot want hard facts, here's some hard facts for you :-



football-rumours.com:

LFC:
I work for a large financial establishment, and the company has, on the request of the current Liverpool owners, been working on various ways to refinance the club, to release more funds – After months of trying and approaching several different banks, we have drawn a blank (no–one wants to take the risk) – So, the only option is to sell. the good news is, that there are three genuine offers on the table – All for similar amounts and all promising to fund the new stadium and release funds for transfers (in the region of £35m)– The Americans are reluctant to sell to DIC, as they have not been impressed with recent dealings, so it is potentially down to two, being a consortium from Kuwait plus a new bidder which is being fronted (but not solely funded) by none other than Richard Branson. He loves the idea of having his Virgin branding flashed all over the globe in an instant ! So, watch this space ! Fact – not rumour

[reddwarf12003]

 9hrs and hopes fading. 

WOW

[Stevo75]

Right you lot want hard facts, here's some hard facts for you :-



football-rumours.com:

LFC:
I work for a large financial establishment, and the company has, on the request of the current Liverpool owners, been working on various ways to refinance the club, to release more funds – After months of trying and approaching several different banks, we have drawn a blank (no–one wants to take the risk) – So, the only option is to sell. the good news is, that there are three genuine offers on the table – All for similar amounts and all promising to fund the new stadium and release funds for transfers (in the region of £35m)– The Americans are reluctant to sell to DIC, as they have not been impressed with recent dealings, so it is potentially down to two, being a consortium from Kuwait plus a new bidder which is being fronted (but not solely funded) by none other than Richard Branson. He loves the idea of having his Virgin branding flashed all over the globe in an instant ! So, watch this space ! Fact – not rumour

Arf.

[MolbysBigBelly]

Which means that for a long time people have thought the loan amount from the banks was for the full £350m. Which if not true and G&H have "guaranteed" £180m worth , means the banks are due a lot less in  interest payments, no?

4pool, can you stop talking complete and utter shite please.

We know you can't help defending Hicks, but FFS, this is too much.

The word was that they each put in £7m of their own cash.  The rest was loans, guaranteed against their assets.  They did not actually cough up £90m each.  They do not and never did have £90m each laying around in spare change.

[reddwarf12003]

Right you lot want hard facts, here's some hard facts for you :-



football-rumours.com:

LFC:
I work for a large financial establishment, and the company has, on the request of the current Liverpool owners, been working on various ways to refinance the club, to release more funds – After months of trying and approaching several different banks, we have drawn a blank (no–one wants to take the risk) – So, the only option is to sell. the good news is, that there are three genuine offers on the table – All for similar amounts and all promising to fund the new stadium and release funds for transfers (in the region of £35m)– The Americans are reluctant to sell to DIC, as they have not been impressed with recent dealings, so it is potentially down to two, being a consortium from Kuwait plus a new bidder which is being fronted (but not solely funded) by none other than Richard Branson. He loves the idea of having his Virgin branding flashed all over the globe in an instant ! So, watch this space ! Fact – not rumour

Is this 100% no BS

[Dave_the_Red]

Right you lot want hard facts, here's some hard facts for you :-



football-rumours.com:

LFC:
I work for a large financial establishment, and the company has, on the request of the current Liverpool owners, been working on various ways to refinance the club, to release more funds – After months of trying and approaching several different banks, we have drawn a blank (no–one wants to take the risk) – So, the only option is to sell. the good news is, that there are three genuine offers on the table – All for similar amounts and all promising to fund the new stadium and release funds for transfers (in the region of £35m)– The Americans are reluctant to sell to DIC, as they have not been impressed with recent dealings, so it is potentially down to two, being a consortium from Kuwait plus a new bidder which is being fronted (but not solely funded) by none other than Richard Branson. He loves the idea of having his Virgin branding flashed all over the globe in an instant ! So, watch this space ! Fact – not rumour

My head was hurting earlier, seems the laughing i've just done has sorted it

[chanti]

Right you lot want hard facts, here's some hard facts for you :-



football-rumours.com:

LFC:
I work for a large financial establishment, and the company has, on the request of the current Liverpool owners, been working on various ways to refinance the club, to release more funds – After months of trying and approaching several different banks, we have drawn a blank (no–one wants to take the risk) – So, the only option is to sell. the good news is, that there are three genuine offers on the table – All for similar amounts and all promising to fund the new stadium and release funds for transfers (in the region of £35m)– The Americans are reluctant to sell to DIC, as they have not been impressed with recent dealings, so it is potentially down to two, being a consortium from Kuwait plus a new bidder which is being fronted (but not solely funded) by none other than Richard Branson. He loves the idea of having his Virgin branding flashed all over the globe in an instant ! So, watch this space ! Fact – not rumour

 

[Bogman]

Is this 100% no BS

Look at the name of the web site, gives you a little clue...............

[Something Else]

Is this 100% no BS

[No666]

Thanks for the info Guyko. Could all be falling apart even as we post on this hopeful spring day... & I am glad I've been out till now. Saved from the curse of F5 and wanting to punch 4pool.

[electricghost]

doesnt it even both you that people are spreading nonsense around. most of it is utter bs and peoples hopes get up and then flattened.

I understand what you are saying, but it is for the reader to make their own mind up as to what they choose to believe, and with respect maj,  you have made claims on your other forum, and on here that have not been backed up by any evidence.