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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51680 on: January 4, 2019, 02:08:30 pm »
I still think he's awful, very rarely see him have an impressive game to be honest. Seems to snatch at chance after chance

Whens the last time he had 2 good games in a row prior to the last 2?

He's a poor player, maybe he will have a few moments in a game but that's it. I am sure once Emery gets his team in Iwobi would be moved on.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51681 on: January 4, 2019, 03:39:11 pm »
He's a poor player, maybe he will have a few moments in a game but that's it. I am sure once Emery gets his team in Iwobi would be moved on.

I feel like he's been 'promising' for about four years now.  Seems to have developed genuinely early in the season but is still incredibly inconsistent.  It's frustrating, he's got such a good sense of speed and balance, close control and a good build for bullying defenders - but can't seem to find any composure at the moment.  Why on earth he was kept over Gnabry who is now starting for Bayern I will never know.

Funnily enough I doubt Emery will move him on any time soon, he's young, may yet improve and the defence needs as much investment as possible with as many as three or four additions to the XI over the next two seasons.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51682 on: January 4, 2019, 03:46:18 pm »
Ramsey looks to be joining Juve. He’s going to struggle to get a game over there

Only Ronaldo will earn more so I think that's unlikely.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51683 on: January 7, 2019, 05:56:00 am »
Iwobi has turned into a very good defensive winger.  As a sub for Mane/Salah when leading he would probably do wonders under Klopp.  Not that most Arsenal fans would have any inkling of what "defending" entails.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51684 on: January 7, 2019, 06:15:47 am »
Iwobi has turned into a very good defensive winger.  As a sub for Mane/Salah when leading he would probably do wonders under Klopp.  Not that most Arsenal fans would have any inkling of what "defending" entails.

Depends how old they are ;D
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51685 on: January 7, 2019, 08:39:12 am »
Iwobi has turned into a very good defensive winger.  As a sub for Mane/Salah when leading he would probably do wonders under Klopp. Not that most Arsenal fans would have any inkling of what "defending" entails.

Nonsense, we've seen loads of other teams do it!  ;D

As for Iwobi, despite the flak he gets he has improved a lot this season. He did have a bit of a dip in form a month or so back but he's played decent again the last few weeks. His next step is to keep improving his end product, and show he can do it on a more consistent basis. Not sure he'll ever be a world beater, but he's a good player to have in the squad.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51686 on: January 7, 2019, 11:24:52 am »
Iwobi has turned into a very good defensive winger.  As a sub for Mane/Salah when leading he would probably do wonders under Klopp.  Not that most Arsenal fans would have any inkling of what "defending" entails.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51687 on: January 11, 2019, 06:09:36 pm »

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51688 on: January 11, 2019, 06:30:01 pm »
Ozil the hacker? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46840461

Looks like he went hiding at a critical time, so seems legit.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51689 on: January 11, 2019, 06:39:28 pm »
Did they really announce that they created some Loan czar position as a way to justify that they could only do loans this January window?  Which is also not new by the way, pretty sure LFC has someone working as a loan coordinator as an Academy director is way to fucking busy to be researching every other club for loan destinations.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51690 on: January 11, 2019, 09:28:19 pm »
Did they really announce that they created some Loan czar position as a way to justify that they could only do loans this January window?  Which is also not new by the way, pretty sure LFC has someone working as a loan coordinator as an Academy director is way to fucking busy to be researching every other club for loan destinations.

Can't see any announcement mate, have I missed something?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51691 on: January 11, 2019, 09:41:28 pm »
Can't see any announcement mate, have I missed something?

No, I guess I overstated "announcement".  More that it was used in some articles about their January plans.  Just found it odd.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51692 on: January 11, 2019, 11:25:07 pm »
Imo they should clear out most of their current defenders [Monreal,Koscielny,Mustafi,Bellerin] They can't get the Wenger defending out of them. Kolasinac is an ok player but if they are serious about being contenders of any sort, he wouldn't be their starting fullback a good squad player.

In midfield only Torreira and that young lad Gonduzi [sp?] should be around, everyone else I'd ship out.

Id get rid of Ozil.

Emery will need time and money to improve this side

How do they get rid of them? None of them are going to a better club, none will be paid more if they move.

They're stuck with the balsa-wood for the length of their contracts.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51693 on: January 12, 2019, 12:27:48 am »
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51694 on: January 12, 2019, 10:49:12 am »
No, I guess I overstated "announcement".  More that it was used in some articles about their January plans.  Just found it odd.

Just thought I'd missed something. We used to be at the forefront of everything 20 years ago, but it now seems we are playing catch up with a lot of things. This is a club that thought it was a good idea to send Serge Gnabry to Pulis & West Brom remember.

How do they get rid of them? None of them are going to a better club, none will be paid more if they move.

They're stuck with the balsa-wood for the length of their contracts.

Cech, Koscielny, Lichsteiner & Monreal are all out of contract in the summer & if all leave as probably should would free up £350k-£400k a week in wages (which is our main issue just now).

Bellerin & Koscielny are good enough I think as wing backs, big question marks over them, especially the latter if they can play in a back 4. Playing Football Manager, id see if there's a way of swapping Ramsey for Benatia this window, & try & sell Mustafi & Chambers next window to try & raise funds for the gaps in the squad.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51695 on: January 12, 2019, 10:57:24 am »
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51696 on: January 12, 2019, 11:01:31 am »
Interesting stat for Arsenal's game at West Ham today.

In the 5 meetings that Emery has faced a Pellegrini side in an away game (all in Spain), he's never won.

Should be a good tactical battle.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51697 on: January 12, 2019, 11:34:50 am »
Also, Emery looks like stevie janowski
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51698 on: January 12, 2019, 02:37:46 pm »
Arsenal fan TV should be entertaining later on anyway.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51699 on: January 12, 2019, 02:41:59 pm »
A lot of rebuilding needs doing in that Arsenal squad to be truthful. The attitude of some of their players was bad today, too easily going down staying on the floor looking sulky if they didn't get anything. The work ethic between the two sides looked wide apart today. A lot for Emery to ponder I'd say.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51700 on: January 12, 2019, 05:37:33 pm »
A lot of rebuilding needs doing in that Arsenal squad to be truthful. The attitude of some of their players was bad today, too easily going down staying on the floor looking sulky if they didn't get anything. The work ethic between the two sides looked wide apart today. A lot for Emery to ponder I'd say.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51701 on: January 12, 2019, 06:05:46 pm »
Ooh you ARE awful.....


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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51702 on: January 12, 2019, 06:18:04 pm »
New manager sheen has well and truly worn off on these.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51703 on: January 12, 2019, 06:27:53 pm »
New manager sheen has well and truly worn off on these.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51704 on: January 12, 2019, 06:30:01 pm »
The only summer signing that is any good is Torreria. Rest of them rubbish.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51705 on: January 12, 2019, 06:33:01 pm »
Like I was saying months ago, as soon as the finishing pixie deserted them then they were going to struggle. 

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51706 on: January 12, 2019, 06:43:52 pm »
There were lots of people comparing Emery's situation to Klopp's but I think a more apt comparison is to when Rodgers took over. They only have 1 one world class attacker. 4-5 good squad players and few promising youngsters. They have far too many average players.

They will really need to be clever in the transfer market or splash the cash if they want to get back to competing at the top. We were somewhat lucky in the sense that we got Coutinho and Sturridge for a pittance and Sterling was fast-tracked to the first team. We bought some crap but big sales of Suarez, Coutinho, Sterling helped fund some other great players.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51707 on: January 12, 2019, 07:02:22 pm »


Someone on twitter wrote that it's like the Arsenal board saw the Liverpool 13/14 team and thought "let's bankrupt ourselves trying to copy it"  ;D. But rather than embracing the ridiculous lopsided nature of the squad and making the best of it like Rodgers did, Emery is opting for a more pragmatic approach which just doesn't work with this squad. He'd be better off sticking Ozil behind their strikers and going all out attack in every game.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51708 on: January 12, 2019, 07:10:07 pm »
Someone on twitter wrote that it's like the Arsenal board saw the Liverpool 13/14 team and thought "let's bankrupt ourselves trying to copy it"  ;D. But rather than embracing the ridiculous lopsided nature of the squad and making the best of it like Rodgers did, Emery is opting for a more pragmatic approach which just doesn't work with this squad. He'd be better off sticking Ozil behind their strikers and going all out attack in every game.

I mean in terms of quality, they definitely have some but need better wide players to be free scoring. In some departments, they are better than 13/14 team. I mean we had Aly Cissoko and Flanno as full backs for long periods.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51709 on: January 12, 2019, 09:15:26 pm »
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51710 on: January 12, 2019, 09:18:56 pm »
There were lots of people comparing Emery's situation to Klopp's but I think a more apt comparison is to when Rodgers took over. They only have 1 one world class attacker. 4-5 good squad players and few promising youngsters. They have far too many average players.

They will really need to be clever in the transfer market or splash the cash if they want to get back to competing at the top. We were somewhat lucky in the sense that we got Coutinho and Sturridge for a pittance and Sterling was fast-tracked to the first team. We bought some crap but big sales of Suarez, Coutinho, Sterling helped fund some other great players.

But isn't that why they ARE comparing it to Klopp taking over? When he took over, the team had 1 star player in Coutinho, some good solid experienced players in Hendo, Clyne, Milner, couple good younger players like Can and Gomez, but far too many underforming or average players. Actually, you could arque in Auba, Lacazette, Ramsey, Mkhi and Özil, Arsenal do have a core of more attacking players that a good attacking coach could get a lot out of right now, but Emery has fallen out with one of them, and another is leaving plus starts on the bench more often than not, and another is injured!

But yes, they do need to be clever in the transfer market - just like Liverpool had to be when Klopp took over. There was a lot of trimming of an imbalanced and really bloated squad needed, which was done expertly over 2 or 3 windows, and then some really methodical squad building went on - initially at not a massive cost either.

I am intrigued to see what business they do in the summer. Sven Mislintat came in with a big reputation from Dortmund, we shall see how he lives up to that.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51711 on: January 12, 2019, 10:42:16 pm »
A lot of rebuilding needs doing in that Arsenal squad to be truthful. The attitude of some of their players was bad today, too easily going down staying on the floor looking sulky if they didn't get anything. The work ethic between the two sides looked wide apart today. A lot for Emery to ponder I'd say.

It’s not just the rebuilding, they will see as we have seen in the not too distant past that it’s also hard to keep hold of your better players while your rebuilding which means your perpetually rebuilding.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51712 on: January 12, 2019, 10:44:37 pm »
They remind me of us 2009-2013.

Their good players are very good.

Their not so good players are utter shite.

Feel bad for the two lads upfront.

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« Reply #51713 on: January 12, 2019, 10:47:06 pm »
They remind me of us 2009-2013.

Their good players are very good.

Their not so good players are utter shite.

Feel bad for the two lads upfront.

I’d add two or three years to that mate!
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51714 on: January 12, 2019, 10:48:44 pm »
Like I was saying months ago, as soon as the finishing pixie deserted them then they were going to struggle. 

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51715 on: January 12, 2019, 10:53:10 pm »
They are in a right mess. No quality anywhere but up top and even then Aubameyang and Lacazette are hardly without faults. Aubameyang is good and will score plenty but it’s also pretty clear to see why the top clubs have stayed away. If money is tight they are probably better off selling one and signing a winger.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51716 on: January 12, 2019, 11:00:52 pm »
They are in a right mess. No quality anywhere but up top and even then Aubameyang and Lacazette are hardly without faults. Aubameyang is good and will score plenty but it’s also pretty clear to see why the top clubs have stayed away. If money is tight they are probably better off selling one and signing a winger.

Aubameyang is great. Let's not kid ourselves he's just had a few bad games. His goal record speaks for itself.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51717 on: January 12, 2019, 11:03:25 pm »
They are in a right mess. No quality anywhere but up top and even then Aubameyang and Lacazette are hardly without faults. Aubameyang is good and will score plenty but it’s also pretty clear to see why the top clubs have stayed away. If money is tight they are probably better off selling one and signing a winger.

they didn't steer clear cos he wasn't great though, cos he is a really good player.

They steered clear cos at 56 mill or whatever it was, he cost too much for a player his age and skillset. Plus, he acted like a prize dick later in his time at Dortmund, which likely put a few off.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51718 on: January 12, 2019, 11:03:40 pm »
Aubameyang is really good but I think he's a player you want to put the cherry on the cake, rather than be the cake itself. He doesn't do a whole lot outside the penalty area and if you've got chronic issues getting the ball into dangerous areas that can be a problem.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #51719 on: January 12, 2019, 11:11:48 pm »
they didn't steer clear cos he wasn't great though, cos he is a really good player.


They did though, borussin.