Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread

[terry_macss_perm]

We tend to have terrible luck with injuries with our better prospects (you can include Jones and Elliott with that or Brewster before he went). Either one bad injury or niggling ones. Gordon hasn't played for 18 months, Stewart had a very long absence, Sepp missed most of last season.

Paul Glatzel too.

[Asam]

Paul Glatzel too.

yeah that was horrific, we’re playing against some lower league side and the goal keeper goes into a one on one like he’s Harald Schumacher

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1675950033412431873

Owen Beck has completed a season-long loan move to Scottish Premiership side Dundee.

[phil236849]

So youth loans so far are Rhys Williams to Aberdeen, Owen beck to Dundee, is there anyone else yet, I feel I have forgotten someone.  Fabio to Leipzig obvs

[gerrardisgod]

Harvey Davies to Crewe.

Interesting we’ve not had something lined up for Chambers after his successful one last season, may get the summer and/or cups to impress.

[phil236849]

Harvey Davies to Crewe.

Interesting we’ve not had something lined up for Chambers after his successful one last season, may get the summer and/or cups to impress.

Ahh there you are cheers

[phil236849]

Ahh Calvin Ramsay to Preston too, they are adding up

[HopefulRed]

There may well be clubs lining up for Chambers on loan but I think he is going on preseason first for Klopp to see where he is at.

[RedG13]

There may well be clubs lining up for Chambers on loan but I think he is going on preseason first for Klopp to see where he is at.

Probably want to see him before seeing where to send him on loan since tsimikas is going be robertson back up

[smurfinaus]

Do we have any LCB or left footed CB in the youth teams who might turn out to be good?

[Draex]

Do we have any LCB or left footed CB in the youth teams who might turn out to be good?

Quansah Is the best center back we have in the youth ranks, not sure if he can play left cb though.

[RedG13]

Do we have any LCB or left footed CB in the youth teams who might turn out to be good?

The 14 year CB Harvey Owen that was signed but that at least 3 or 4 year away. He a left sided CB who play with right foot though

[Boaty McBoatface]

Kaide Gordon set to make return to full training with Liverpool U21s in two weeks.

#LFC winger not played since Feb 2022 due to pelvic growth issue. Will start season with U21s as he rebuilds fitness after 17 months out. @TheAthleticFC

https://theathletic.com/4667374/2023/07/05/kaide-gordon-liverpool-news/

[tubby]

Good luck to him but I really think it's a huge ask to expect him to reach the level he was capable of previously.

[Boaty McBoatface]

For him, this season just needs to be about playing pain-free football again and rebuilding his strength & fitness. Anything above that (performance-wise) is a bonus IMHO.

[.adam]

Good luck to him but I really think it's a huge ask to expect him to reach the level he was capable of previously.

He has age on his side. If this injury happened in his 20s, I'd agree with you but youngsters can bounce back from serious injuries.

[tubby]

He has age on his side. If this injury happened in his 20s, I'd agree with you but youngsters can bounce back from serious injuries.

Sure, but he's missed nearly 2 years of development at a crucial age.  Hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it happening.

[Oskar]

Looking forward to seeing him back on the pitch, hopefully now he can stay injury-free and get back on track in terms of his development.

[dakid]

Do we have any LCB or left footed CB in the youth teams who might turn out to be good?

Chambers.m has played a nice but at CB. ‘Wow, he has everything for a centre half, apart from a body’.” Were Klopp's words which refer to his height I imagine. To me he does seem to have grown. With TAA dropping into midfield it would be very interesting to see him in Robbos position.

[Too early for flapjacks?]

Do we have any LCB or left footed CB in the youth teams who might turn out to be good?

I think Billy Koumetio is left footed.

[Draex]

I think Billy Koumetio is left footed.

Off on loan according to Neil Jones the oracle.. Koumetio showed a lot of promise but has some big holes in his game primarily concentration, a loan should help with that.

[Knight]

Sure, but he's missed nearly 2 years of development at a crucial age.  Hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it happening.

16/17 months surely? Not good but 'nearly 2 years' puts a pretty negative spin on it! If you can say 'nearly 2 years' you could just as easily say 'just over a year'.

[Too early for flapjacks?]

A little bit different with Gordon as he had a problem that needed to be careful managed rather than having a horrific injury needing major surgery or surgeries. He's still only 18 so as long as he's over his issue then I can easily see him getting back on track.

[xbugawugax]

we do now have doak and clark ahead of him doesn't it.

keeps the youth squad ticking and hopefully lessen the pressure on gordon. i still do hope that he kicks on and get a few minutes in europe and cup games to manage the minutes of the seniors.

[RedG13]

we do now have doak and clark ahead of him doesn't it.

keeps the youth squad ticking and hopefully lessen the pressure on gordon. i still do hope that he kicks on and get a few minutes in europe and cup games to manage the minutes of the seniors.

Clark probably behind Mac Allister/Jones or Szoboszlai/Elliott more. Clark seems more of a #10 type maybe #8/10 mix. Clark should be ready to get more game time when Henderson and/or Thiago move on

[gerrardisgod]

Chambers attracting loan interest from as high as Bayer Leverkusen, apparently.

[So… Howard Philips]

Chambers attracting loan interest from as high as Bayer Leverkusen, apparently.

Xabi getting to know his squad?

[RedG13]

Chambers attracting loan interest from as high as Bayer Leverkusen, apparently.

This would be much step up Level and better judge of if he ready to replace Robertson more.
Generally players sent on loan by Liverpool(Over 18) are not future first team plan but I think had change with some player more so on the defender side then anywhere else.

[Boaty McBoatface]

This deal has now gone through.

Gift: “After six years at this amazing club, today marks the end of my journey with #LFC. I am truly grateful for every second I have spent at this special club.”
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James Pearce
@JamesPearceLFC
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May 27
Young Liverpool attacker Elijah Gift set to join Athletic Bilbao this summer.
Understand the fee is set to be around £1 million. #LFC

https://theathletic.com/4557047/2023/0

Good luck to the lad.

[NsRed]

Any word on which academy lads are in training camp with the big club/who might be in line to travel with them? Usually we’ve got some kind of list published by now I thought.

[Too early for flapjacks?]

Any word on which academy lads are in training camp with the big club/who might be in line to travel with them? Usually we’ve got some kind of list published by now I thought.

I'd imagine we get the list of who is going to the training camp just before we fly out to Germany. So probably towards the end of this week. Although I did think it was a bit odd that there didn't seem to be any of the academy lads like Doak and Clark joining the likes of Nunez and Fabinho when they returned on Saturday.

[Fromola]

Any word on which academy lads are in training camp with the big club/who might be in line to travel with them? Usually we’ve got some kind of list published by now I thought.

From the pre-season thread:

Academy players training with the first team group:

Harvey Blair, Jarell Quansah, Ben Doak, Lewis Koumas, Layton Stewart, Dom Corness, Bobby Clark, Melkamu Frauendorf, Tyler Morton

GK: Marcelo Pitaluga, Fabian Mrozek, Jakub Ojrzynski

You'll get a fair few of these going to the training camp/Singapore to pad the squad out.

[HopefulRed]

The Echo are suggesting that Kieran Morrison was promoted to the U21 set up in January.  I merely thought he was one of the u16s who got time in the u18s last season, not that he was then in the U21s.  Did anyone here see him with the U21s last season?  He must be an incredible prospect if he was promoted to u21s while still as U16. 

[Chris~]

The Echo are suggesting that Kieran Morrison was promoted to the U21 set up in January.  I merely thought he was one of the u16s who got time in the u18s last season, not that he was then in the U21s.  Did anyone here see him with the U21s last season?  He must be an incredible prospect if he was promoted to u21s while still as U16.

The only u21 I can see him playing is this one: https://gh.soccerway.com/matches/2023/01/11/europe/premier-league-international-cup/liverpool-under-21/psg-u21/3902571/
 Was the same day as a Fa youth cup game so think he was more making the numbers up on the bench

[HopefulRed]

The only u21 I can see him playing is this one: https://gh.soccerway.com/matches/2023/01/11/europe/premier-league-international-cup/liverpool-under-21/psg-u21/3902571/
 Was the same day as a Fa youth cup game so think he was more making the numbers up on the bench

Yes, this makes much more sense than the Echo, but you would have thought they would be extra careful on accuracy for stories of U16s.  Also the story seems a bit odd since the player is not 17 until November at which point they can sign pro contracts so why would they mention him being offered a new contract now?  If this is just the ‘contract’ offer for a two year place in the U18, then surely all the new cohort about to start in the U18s would be offered the same?  I’m not 100% clear how this works.   On the plus side, I am already convinced he is highly rated for playing up a bit last year

[JP!]

What do we know about Quansah?  He was quietly given a new contract and is now up with the first team. Any potential there?

[phil236849]

What do we know about Quansah?  He was quietly given a new contract and is now up with the first team. Any potential there?

As I have said before I really like him. Tall, strong, quick, good on the ball. Eng u19 regular.  Obvs green, only played 6 months in league one

Only thing is I am a bit disconcerted by the impression that the academy bosses have taken a while to warm to him, which seems to be partly explained by Koumetio getting the attention until he made a lot of mistakes

I am hopeful

[vivabobbygraham]

As I have said before I really like him. Tall, strong, quick, good on the ball. Eng u19 regular.  Obvs green, only played 6 months in league one

Only thing is I am a bit disconcerted by the impression that the academy bosses have taken a while to warm to him, which seems to be partly explained by Koumetio getting the attention until he made a lot of mistakes

I am hopeful

Good news. How's young Jonas doing?

[phil236849]

Good news. How's young Jonas doing?

Not watched him as much. My impression is he has potential but not yet as much a leader as Quansah. Others might be better qualified to say

[RedG13]

Not watched him as much. My impression is he has potential but not yet as much a leader as Quansah. Others might be better qualified to say

I know he right footed has played on the left at all.