Author Topic: CL Semi Final: Chelsea -v- Liverpool, Wed 7.45, All The Build Up (Read 47967 times)

kopite789 · « **Reply #240 on:** April 22, 2007, 07:41:15 pm »

Quote from: mattlfc07 on April 22, 2007, 07:07:26 pm

I have never heard of anything like that before

I was just wondering because if we finished 5th and won it the team in 4th drops into the uefa cup just thought it might mean the team in second having to give up their automatic place in the first round.

Someone must have to lose a guaranteed first round place somewhere if the winners get automatically but didn't get automatic entry via the league.

jaffod · « **Reply #241 on:** April 22, 2007, 07:42:43 pm »

Dont know if anyones already mentioned it but Mourinho reckons Carvalho wont be fit. If thats the case its a massive loss to them. Hes one of the biggest fucking snides in the game but Crouch struggles against him.

diddyfaz-golborne · « **Reply #242 on:** April 22, 2007, 07:44:27 pm »

i think we could win this 2-0 depending on when we score the 1st..

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #243 on:** April 22, 2007, 07:45:05 pm »

Quote from: kopite789 on April 22, 2007, 07:41:15 pm

I was just wondering because if we finished 5th and won it the team in 4th drops into the uefa cup just thought it might mean the team in second having to give up their automatic place in the first round.

Someone must have to lose a guaranteed first round place somewhere if the winners get automatically but didn't get automatic entry via the league.

I wonder is it the country thats on the UEFA cusp?

You know, like Barca winning last year meant Celtic qualified automatically...

claRED · « **Reply #244 on:** April 22, 2007, 07:46:45 pm »

Quote from: jaffod on April 22, 2007, 07:42:43 pm

Dont know if anyones already mentioned it but Mourinho reckons Carvalho wont be fit. If thats the case its a massive loss to them. Hes one of the biggest fucking snides in the game but Crouch struggles against him.

His is one of the dirtiest players I've seen, and yes Crouch has struggled against him partly cos of the sly elbows he gets in. However I think Mourinho is kidding us... their players do habit of suddenly being fit again

MattLFC08 · « **Reply #245 on:** April 22, 2007, 07:47:04 pm »

Quote from: jaffod on April 22, 2007, 07:42:43 pm

Dont know if anyones already mentioned it but Mourinho reckons Carvalho wont be fit. If thats the case its a massive loss to them. Hes one of the biggest fucking snides in the game but Crouch struggles against him.

I wouldnt believe a word from that snakes mouth.... Expect Carvalo to be there...

Cruiser · « **Reply #246 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:05:06 pm »

Carvalho was rested.

JamieB · « **Reply #247 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:17:49 pm »

In response to that blood comment, i had heard they take their bloody and effectively 'clean' it taking out all the bad stuff (not sure what stuff that is) and then obviously putting the blood back in them. Its unusual to put it short.

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #248 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:19:42 pm »

but but but but but....

Theyre CHELSEA!

Theyre full of bad stuff!!

Nick110581 · « **Reply #249 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:20:50 pm »

Carvalho is fit I think - rested as mentioned

redeagle · « **Reply #250 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:27:15 pm »

Theres a chance I could miss seeing the match on the box.. gutted.

Would like to see crouch and bellamy up front. I think chelsea have looked a little tired over the last few weeks and today they were lethargic at best. I'd fancy us over the two legs with milan beating man utd also.

If we win at the bridge it will be one of the best results under rafa.

kevlumley · « **Reply #251 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:45:06 pm »

Lets all get 110% behind our team, the mighty Liverpool.

We can beat Chelsea, we did it at Anfield (and they were shocked) and we can do it at the bridge.

Everyone needs to believe that and everyone needs to be singing, louder than them!

When they come to Anfield they won't believe whats hit them, but if we do a PSV, Barca away, then we can make the most of the home leg.

Come on the red men!

WorldChampions · « **Reply #252 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:47:43 pm »

Changed my mind about the team, I would like to see this

Reina

Finnan
Agger
Carra
Arbeloa

Riise
Mascherano
Sissoko
Gerrard
Pennant

Kuyt

jiky · « **Reply #253 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:50:57 pm »

my team

finnan jc agger arbeloa

momo alonso

sg jar

kuyt
bellamy

GinKop · « **Reply #254 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:53:00 pm »

Quote from: WorldChampions on April 22, 2007, 08:47:43 pm

Changed my mind about the team, I would like to see this

Reina

Finnan
Agger
Carra
Arbeloa

Riise
Mascherano
Sissoko
Gerrard
Pennant

Kuyt

You can't do that WC

Although I do agree, except would have Alonso instead of Momo (unless he is back to his destroying best).

I predict this thread gets to 22 pages, with help from the numerous "Lets twat these rent-boys" posts coming in thick and fast on Wednesday afternoon.

redpride9 · « **Reply #255 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:53:07 pm »

they were poor today against Newcastle, i think we could even nick a one nil away win...

flood the midfield and leave crouchy up top....

redginge · « **Reply #256 on:** April 22, 2007, 08:54:09 pm »

Quote from: Spartacus on April 22, 2007, 12:16:19 pm

I hope they knock seven shades of shit of of them....... then go to extra time

Ha Ha Ha

BazC · « **Reply #257 on:** April 22, 2007, 09:22:03 pm »

A 0-0 would be good a score draw would be brilliant. A win would be out of this world.

I think we'll see Kuyt and Bellamy starting, Gerrard on the right, and Masch and Alonso in the middle. Almost definitely Riise on the left wing, with Arbeloa behind him at left back.

Stay solid at the back, and control the pace of the game. I really think we can win if our finishing is good- we should have beat them at their place in the league, but they took their only chance of the game (a half chance at that) and we failed to take at least 2 very good chances (Gerrard and Kuyt).

WorldChampions · « **Reply #258 on:** April 22, 2007, 09:23:21 pm »

Quote from: GinKop on April 22, 2007, 08:53:00 pm

You can't do that WC

Although I do agree, except would have Alonso instead of Momo (unless he is back to his destroying best).

I predict this thread gets to 22 pages, with help from the numerous "Lets twat these rent-boys" posts coming in thick and fast on Wednesday afternoon.

I think its the game where Momo will jump start back to his previous best, he loves to kick the shit out of Chelsea and I like watching him do it

litmanen37 · « **Reply #259 on:** April 22, 2007, 09:30:05 pm »

for me the team at the moment picks itself:

Reina

Finnan Carragher Agger Arbeloa

Pennant Alonso Mascherano Riise

Gerrard

Crouch

that would certainly be my team - especially with Essien, Ballack and possibly Carvalho out.

though it wouldnt suprise me if Gerrard started on the right with Pennant on the bench and Kuyt or Bellamy up top with Crouch.

kavah · « **Reply #260 on:** April 22, 2007, 09:41:31 pm »

Quote from: JamieBadham on April 22, 2007, 08:17:49 pm

In response to that blood comment, i had heard they take their bloody and effectively 'clean' it taking out all the bad stuff (not sure what stuff that is) and then obviously putting the blood back in them. Its unusual to put it short.

from wiki :

Blood doping

...At present there is no accepted way of detecting autologous transfusions (using the athlete’s own RBCs) but research is in progress and the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has promised that a test will eventually be introduced. The test method and its introduction date are to be kept secret in order to avoid tipping off doping athletes.

I can't see it to be honest, some kind of secret blood processing facility deep underground run by a ruthless ( probably Russian ) doctor...

-HH- · « **Reply #261 on:** April 22, 2007, 09:46:30 pm »

Reina

Finnan
Carra
Agger
Arbeloa

Pennant
Sissoko
Alonso
Riise

Gerrard

Crouch

Alan_X · « **Reply #262 on:** April 22, 2007, 09:54:40 pm »

No one loses out to fit us in if we win it. To clarify what happens:

The top two teams in the English League (Chelsea and United) go straight into the group stages and we would go into the Group stages as Titleholders (which is what should have happened in 2005) and as top seeds.

If the Titleholder spot is not used (for example if the winner has already qualified for the group stage like Barca last year) then that spot goes to the tenth ranked country whose champions would otherwise go into the 3rd Qualifying Round (Turkey in 2005 and Scotland last year).

The UEFA Access list is quite clear:

The 16 yeams with direct entry into the group stage

1 Titleholder
2 teams from the 1st ranked country - Spain
2 teams from the 2nd ranked country - Italy
2 teams from the 3rd ranked country - England
2 teams from the 4th ranked country - France
2 teams from the 5th ranked country - Germany
2 teams from the 6th ranked country - Portugal
1 team from the 7th ranked country - Netherlands
1 team from the 8th ranked country - Greece
1 team from the 9th ranked country - Russia

The 10th ranked country at the moment is Romania and their Champions would take the TH spot if Chelsea or United win this year.

StormyDog · « **Reply #263 on:** April 22, 2007, 10:02:35 pm »

Quote from: JamieBadham on April 22, 2007, 08:17:49 pm

In response to that blood comment, i had heard they take their bloody and effectively 'clean' it taking out all the bad stuff (not sure what stuff that is) and then obviously putting the blood back in them. Its unusual to put it short.

Is it remotely legal ??

kopite789 · « **Reply #264 on:** April 22, 2007, 10:44:28 pm »

Cheers for clearing that up alan.

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #265 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:01:55 pm »

Quote from: Alan_F on April 22, 2007, 09:54:40 pm

No one loses out to fit us in if we win it. To clarify what happens:

The top two teams in the English League (Chelsea and United) go straight into the group stages and we would go into the Group stages as Titleholders (which is what should have happened in 2005) and as top seeds.

If the Titleholder spot is not used (for example if the winner has already qualified for the group stage like Barca last year) then that spot goes to the tenth ranked country whose champions would otherwise go into the 3rd Qualifying Round (Turkey in 2005 and Scotland last year).

The UEFA Access list is quite clear:

The 16 yeams with direct entry into the group stage

1 Titleholder
2 teams from the 1st ranked country - Spain
2 teams from the 2nd ranked country - Italy
2 teams from the 3rd ranked country - England
2 teams from the 4th ranked country - France
2 teams from the 5th ranked country - Germany
2 teams from the 6th ranked country - Portugal
1 team from the 7th ranked country - Netherlands
1 team from the 8th ranked country - Greece
1 team from the 9th ranked country - Russia

The 10th ranked country at the moment is Romania and their Champions would take the TH spot if Chelsea or United win this year.

So something like I thought it was, ie Celtic last year or Fenerbahce the year before...

TheWalrus · « **Reply #266 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:23:37 pm »

Quote from: LFCDore on April 22, 2007, 07:27:22 pm

Unless God actually decides things, but in that case, he will surely support LFC for the passion and dedication of our fans?

4pool · « **Reply #267 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:24:31 pm »

btw..

someone asked who the ref is. Went on uefa.com..it's not listed yet.

But I know one ref it isn't.

Kyros Vassaras from Greece. He and his assistants ref the Manc v Milan match.

also btw..he's reffed four of our matches.

1-1 v Boavista 2001

0-0 v Barcelona 2002

3-1 Win v Bayer Leverkusen 2005.

2-1 Win v Barcelona 2007

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #268 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:37:29 pm »

Quote from: 4pool on April 22, 2007, 11:24:31 pm

btw..

someone asked who the ref is. Went on uefa.com..it's not listed yet.

But I know one ref it isn't.

Kyros Vassaras from Greece. He and his assistants ref the Manc v Milan match.

2-1 Win v Barcelona 2007

Oh good, then maybe he'll send off Man U players when they get injured

though on the other hand it means he most likely will fall for every single one of Ronaldo's dives

liverpool-18***** · « **Reply #269 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:37:44 pm »

We'll win 2-0.

StuH · « **Reply #270 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:39:39 pm »

Quote from: bazc350 on April 22, 2007, 09:22:03 pm

we should have beat them at their place in the league, but they took their only chance of the game (a half chance at that)

Mate, to be fair, it wasn't even a quarter chance really was it....

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #271 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:40:36 pm »

to be fair, very few keepers would have kept that one out...

liverpool-18***** · « **Reply #272 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:42:03 pm »

We hit the bar, missed simple headers(Crouch) and dominated the game,That hatefull bastard drogba scored a wonderfull goal that he probly wont ever do again in his life. so bring em on!

RigBon1892 · « **Reply #273 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:45:25 pm »

Didnt we hit the woodwork about 2 or 3 times?

i remember someone talking about it in the "team full of pretentious bastards" thread about Dirk trying to singlehandedly dismantle the only decent bar at Stamford Bridge...

Veinticinco de Mayo · « **Reply #274 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:46:31 pm »

Quote from: liverpool-18***** on April 22, 2007, 11:42:03 pm

We hit the bar, missed simple headers(Crouch) and dominated the game,That hatefull bastard drogba scored a wonderfull goal that he probly wont ever do again in his life. so bring em on!

To be fair he's scored a few like that this season.

moody · « **Reply #275 on:** April 22, 2007, 11:49:02 pm »

I dont think Pennant will play (but will be on the bench for sure ) otherwise he would not have played a full game against Wigan.

I suspect Finnan , Agger , Cara & Arbeloa.Midfield will be Gerrard on the right (to protect Finnan) but Gerrad will be allowed a role where he can also cut in.The other four in the midfield will be Momo,Alonso,Mascherano & Riise on the left.

Iam not sure who will play upfont.I have a feeling Kout will not start.

Phil M · « **Reply #276 on:** April 23, 2007, 12:04:35 am »

Quote from: moody on April 22, 2007, 11:49:02 pm

I have a feeling Kout will not start.

Who?

SpenceUK1968 · « **Reply #277 on:** April 23, 2007, 12:34:33 am »

The blood doping thing is pretty simple.
You take a pint of blood out, keep it fresh for a week or so (by which time your body has replaced the lost blood) then you transfuse it back in on the big day, this means that you have about 12 1/2 % more red blood cells in your system which means that your body gets more oxygen (it's carried by the red blood cells) and gets rid of more CO2 through the same process.

The elevated blood pressure can be a bit nasty if you keep doing it, but it's not as bad as HPO which increases the number of red blood cells your body creates and is really dangerous, and detectable.

Anyway, let's twat these cockney rent boy wankers!

BazC · « **Reply #278 on:** April 23, 2007, 01:07:04 am »

Quote from: StuH on April 22, 2007, 11:39:39 pm

Mate, to be fair, it wasn't even a quarter chance really was it....

Doesn't matter really; it was nigh on impossible to defend by our side though as it was so unpredictable and such a class shot. We just have to make sure we take our chances.

Also, now that Carvalho looks like he may be out along with Ballack, and with Essien suspended- I'd say we've got a good chance of coming away with a good result.

toshi · « **Reply #279 on:** April 23, 2007, 05:03:49 am »

Quote from: kavah on April 22, 2007, 09:41:31 pm

from wiki :

Blood doping

...At present there is no accepted way of detecting autologous transfusions (using the athlete’s own RBCs) but research is in progress and the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) has promised that a test will eventually be introduced. The test method and its introduction date are to be kept secret in order to avoid tipping off doping athletes.

I can't see it to be honest, some kind of secret blood processing facility deep underground run by a ruthless ( probably Russian ) doctor...

call James Bond, quick....