Topic: PL: Crystal Palace 1 v 2 Liverpool Mateta 57’ Mo 77’ Elliot 90+1’

[Red Beret]

The problem is sometimes it bites the arse of the team that hasn't been time wasting

I'd rather just see yellows for time wasting and put an end to it

Well this and that Newcastle game stand out to me where their time wasting ended up counting against them. 

[newterp]

Even if we had won 4-0 with a walk in the (Selhurst) park - the TNT announcers would have found numerous faux outrage talking points and how they spun the game in Liverpool's favor.

[**** The Pain Away.]

TOP OF THE LEAGUE MOTHERFUCKERS, AND STILL IN 2nd GEAR! FUCK YEEEEE

[Clayton Bigsby]

Fantastic achievement from Mo.

What a goal from Harvey Messiot. We are going to take some shifting from the top

[Clint Eastwood]

Nice to be top the league again. Imagine if we started actually playing well 

[kesey]

I've been saying to my mates that we'll be top by Chrimbo for over a month . It's nice to see that it could happen.

[TSC]

Top  of the league. Who’d have thought that in dec we’d be there?  Get it on and let’s go.

[redtel]

Loved that comment. Can't send a player off for a 2nd bookable offence because people have bought tickets 

That comment was comedy gold followed by that hoot of a post match interview.

 

[meady1981]

I only listen to one pod - the rest is football, sometimes watch the Overlap or Nevilles post match interview thing. All of them are completely ignoring Liverpool in the title race (which I love), the narrative has been all about Arsenal, Tottenham, Villa and even United. I wonder what we'll see this week now we're genuinely top.
I don't know what to make of this team myself. We are pretty turgid to watch at the moment but also fucking good at grinding it out. I have no idea where this goes.

[tbonejones]

boom boom boom boom

[classycarra]

boom boom boom boom

sadly not the first vengaboys of the day, unless the stadium playing vengaboys for their goal was a fever dream (also, imagine having 'ultras', but you play music over a goal like it's a game in front of 3000 at the reebok stadium)

[Cafe De Paris]

I do recall some similar results the year we won the league. I’m thinking Villa palace sheff utd and utd away. Also Leicester and spurs at home were all late wins. It’s was far from easy and we ground out results then also.

[Legoland]

No one else calling out that Ayew should've had a second yellow for diving when Gakpo didnt even touch him?

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

Only just caught up - was it really 5 minutes after the incident the penalty was awarded??

[farawayred]

Only just caught up - was it really 5 minutes after the incident the penalty was awarded??

The commentators said that during the game, but then corrected themselves that it was just short of 2 min. Still...

[farawayred]

No one else calling out that Ayew should've had a second yellow for diving when Gakpo didnt even touch him?

What about Mateta, and a few others? And what about all the professional fouls? If Madley started giving yellows for those, one of two things would have happened - either Palace would cut that shit out, or would have ended with half a team on the field.

According to PGMOL, no team is allowed to make professional fouls more than City!

[kesey]

boom boom boom boom

Are you Baldrick in disguise ?

[stockdam]

What about Mateta, and a few others? And what about all the professional fouls? If Madley started giving yellows for those, one of two things would have happened - either Palace would cut that shit out, or would have ended with half a team on the field.

According to PGMOL, no team is allowed to make professional fouls more than City!

Palace were taking the piss all game. Almost every time we were on the attack they made a “tactical” foul. I don’t think I’ve seen so many blatant fouls in a match. On the other side they were diving at the merest touch
They even resorted to flicking the ball out of VVD’s hands when he was about to take a throw.

If I supported Palace I would hate watching such negative football and it’s purely down to Hodgson. The guy even tried to deflect the blame for Ayew’s first yellow and blamed VVD. Palace aren’t a bad team but have had any creativity coached out of them. Don’t blame the referee for applying the rules correctly and for letting Palace away with so much. The blame for such dire turgid football is down to one man.

[latortuga]

We're top and in a prime position to be in this title challenge right to the end.

I beseech you, give Klopp whatever he needs in January to get the job done.

[NarutoReds]

Not trying to be a sour grape c*nt or what... But I have rewatched the replay.

I'm still standing on my opinion that was not a penalty against us. Shouldn't be.

Way tttooooooo soft, just two players trying to get the ball in the same time.

As someone has pointed out in this forum thread earlier, it was SOFTER than the second yellow in this game which produced a red card.

I rewatched the slow-mo, it's as normal as shirt grabbing on Salah in our "normal" game, and I have removed my red tinted glass here being unbiased.

But yeah, a humongous and important win for us. I am happy like a bunch of released sperms.

[Craig S]

The offside was right and it was in their half.. they just inexplicably allowed the freekick to be taken in our half.

That's actually correct. A minor change to the law a couple of years ago.
You can take the FK from the point the offside player receives the ball, even if own half. Nunez is off and runs back into own half to control the ball. So ref and lino were correct.

Only seen this at the match and I questioned it. Not seen a replay of exact spot he controlled it. But the FK being in own half for offside is allowed.

[Mighty_Red]

Missed most of the 2nd half but fuck me this play shit and win late is not good for the old ticker regardless of whether you watch or not!

Will take the points all day long. Maybe Mo getting his 200th goal will free him up. He has now joined the striking gods of this club (not that he wasn't already a great).

A wonderful winner from Harvey, well deserved after that Wolves goal got taken off him. Still hard to find a a regular starting spot for him because of well documented weaknesses from midfield but he has lots of time to find his position. The boys a talent.

[Red_Mist]

Not trying to be a sour grape c*nt or what...

But yeah, a humongous and important win for us. I am happy like a bunch of released sperms.

You’ve got a great turn of phrase sometimes Naruto

[Schmidt]

Not trying to be a sour grape c*nt or what... But I have rewatched the replay.

I'm still standing on my opinion that was not a penalty against us. Shouldn't be.

Way tttooooooo soft, just two players trying to get the ball in the same time.

As someone has pointed out in this forum thread earlier, it was SOFTER than the second yellow in this game which produced a red card.

I rewatched the slow-mo, it's as normal as shirt grabbing on Salah in our "normal" game, and I have removed my red tinted glass here being unbiased.

But yeah, a humongous and important win for us. I am happy like a bunch of released sperms.

It was a fair penalty, their player kicked the ball ours kicked their players leg.

[HardworkDedication]

It was a fair penalty, their player kicked the ball ours kicked their players leg.

Exactly. Every Liverpool fan on the planet would be annoyed if the shoe was on the other foot and we weren't awarded a penalty. It was definitely a pen, no doubt about it.

[Realgman]

Great stuff, top of the league, no injuries, and our next game against them with their best player missing...
a grand days football

[Tokyoite]

Not a good performace overall but 3 points is what matters the most. Was never expecting us to play great in all games this season but being able to get the 3 points after an awful performance is also very important.

Bring on the shite from Manchester!

[mattD]

Whoever is on the subs bench.... doesn't seem to matter, every time we make subs, it makes a hell of a lot of difference.

The difference between three points and none, and potentially the difference between silverware and no silverware.

[latortuga]

Exactly. Every Liverpool fan on the planet would be annoyed if the shoe was on the other foot and we weren't awarded a penalty. It was definitely a pen, no doubt about it.

Yep.

He caught him plain and simple.  How hard the contact was is irrelevant in the modern game of football.  Most penalties in the league have as much or less contact and are given penalties and no one blinks an eye.  Moving on.

[MH41]

Yep.

He caught him plain and simple.  How hard the contact was is irrelevant in the modern game of football.  Most penalties in the league have as much or less contact and are given penalties and no one blinks an eye.  Moving on.

If only they were.....

[Silverbird]

No issues with it being a penalty if picked up by the referee in the moment. What was galling was VAR scrutinising the replay and deciding two minutes later to inform the referee of the potential foul. If it wasn’t picked up by the referee and the VAR had to scrutinise the footage for two minutes to spot the foul, where was the clear and obvious error? When does VAR decide it should scrutinise the footage for a potential mistake, and if it could be done here two minutes after the incident, why didn’t VAR intervene seconds after the offside error in the Spurs match?

[spider-neil]

I couldn’t believe the sending off but I was focused on the force of the challenge not the stopping of the counterattack. Once you see the context yellow what is there to complain about. Two clear yellow card offences.

I have no problem with the penalty against I do however have a problem with it being given literally minutes after the event. So you can clearly stop the game minutes later and in a phase of play so why couldn’t you do that against Spurs? Because the decision of no goal was given? Well it was the wrong decision.

You’re just making it up as you go.

[spider-neil]

They’re both yellow card offences by the letter of the law.

The thing is Trent was given the benefit of the doubt against Newcastle and the media were going on about how lucky we were afterwards. They can’t have it both ways.

And Konate.

Remember the outrage he wasn’t sent off?

[Lfc19ynwa]

That's actually correct. A minor change to the law a couple of years ago.
You can take the FK from the point the offside player receives the ball, even if own half. Nunez is off and runs back into own half to control the ball. So ref and lino were correct.

Only seen this at the match and I questioned it. Not seen a replay of exact spot he controlled it. But the FK being in own half for offside is allowed.

I never knew that , I won’t bother screaming at the telly next time I see it happen again. You can always rely on Rawk to educate yourself

[CHOPPER]

Will the real Liverpool, please stand up. We’ve been a contradiction in terms over the past month or so.

We start slow, look lacklustre and can’t string a solid attack or get a shot away and don’t look like losing.

We concede first far too often and struggle, yet are comfortable in a game when trailing.

The new midfield has made all the difference though the more established players are making the biggest impact.

We persistently dont get shots away and don’t look like scoring and have the best goal difference in the league, with a defence that needs improving on.

Nunez is the fans hero, yet our biggest frustration.

We’re the best behaved supporters in the land but a right shower’a bastards when we lose(not very often)
And very non committal when we draw.

[Red_Mist]

Yep ^^^^ The fact we’re up there whilst struggling to get out of second gear is great. If we can go through the gears, and I think we can and will, we’re gonna be a massive irritation for the other title contenders. I reckon we must already be boiling a ridiculous amount of piss. Well, they’re gonna need a bigger cauldron I reckon.

[MD1990]

Poor performances but our squad depth in attack is critical along with Allisson & VVD.
Hopefully get Jota back soon too

[spider-neil]

Even the players who aren't performing at the start of games are allowing rest and rotation of the squad in the brutal period of the year.

Gravenberch was poor from the start yesterday - Subs change the game
We struggled in the first half versus City - Gravenberch contributed to changing the game

[Craig S]

I never knew that , I won’t bother screaming at the telly next time I see it happen again. You can always rely on Rawk to educate yourself

I only found out at the actual match after shouting at the ref. One of the lads we go with is a fully qualified ref and.told.me about the tweak to the law a few seasons ago.

[Nick110581]

Why is there uproar about the second yellow? He clearly stopped an attack.