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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #360 on: August 18, 2023, 08:21:10 am »
Well done Rachel Riley.

https://news.sky.com/story/mason-greenwood-countdowns-rachel-riley-says-shell-stop-supporting-manchester-united-if-striker-stays-12942074

The really worrying thing is that according to reports the football staff at United are all onboard bringing him back. I'm beginning to think football as a sport is further in the gutter than anyone could have ever imagined.
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #361 on: August 18, 2023, 08:24:10 am »
Well done Rachel Riley.

https://news.sky.com/story/mason-greenwood-countdowns-rachel-riley-says-shell-stop-supporting-manchester-united-if-striker-stays-12942074

The really worrying thing is that according to reports the football staff at United are all onboard bringing him back. I'm beginning to think football as a sport is further in the gutter than anyone could have ever imagined.

I came to this conclusion a while back.  One of the reasons why I couldn't care less if the whole thing disappeared tomorrow.

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #362 on: August 18, 2023, 08:41:11 am »
Well done Rachel Riley.

https://news.sky.com/story/mason-greenwood-countdowns-rachel-riley-says-shell-stop-supporting-manchester-united-if-striker-stays-12942074

The really worrying thing is that according to reports the football staff at United are all onboard bringing him back. I'm beginning to think football as a sport is further in the gutter than anyone could have ever imagined.

They are all extremely rich young men, why anybody thinks they are, by and large, not a gang of scumbags is beyond me. Money corrupts, they are not like us normal folk and don't think of themselves as such.

That's why I have to ignore every social initiative etc that they are involved in, taking the knee, rainbow laces etc etc. It's all bullshit, complete and utter bullshit. If you think they give one iota of a fuck about anything else but themselves and their moneyed ilk then you've not been watching them properly.

The odd one like Rashford may have a true pang on conscience every now and again but odds on he's a scuzzball as well 90% of the time.

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #363 on: August 18, 2023, 09:09:28 am »
One thing everyone associated with that club needs to remember, he's not been found innocent, the case was dropped as "there was no longer a realistic prospect of a conviction" after witnesses withdrew their cooperation.
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #364 on: August 18, 2023, 09:25:36 am »
What I find most despicable is the cunning and planned positioning performed by Manchester United. The narrative they are building is one of club being 'confused, unsure, searching'. Poor Manchester United is lost in a whirlwind of conflicting information and interests you see, they are navigating blindly through this dense moral fog, doing their best you see, asking all stakeholders you see. It's not their fault they'll sail out of this dense fog right in front of 'Greenwood Plays Island' - it was very dense this moral fog you see, they had no idea the ship was sailing this way.

Sad reality is that they have already made the decision to re-integrate this woman abusing scumbag into their first team. All they are doing now is searching for a way to do it without it blowing up in their face too violently.


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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #366 on: August 21, 2023, 04:10:20 pm »
Disgusting they let it go this far regardless.

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« Reply #367 on: August 21, 2023, 04:19:14 pm »
Absolutely meaningless statement. He's not been sacked, He's not had his contract ripped up. He basically been transfer listed. Which means a club will have to come in and bid for him, arrange fee and terms with the club and player.

This had the PFA, employment lawyers and agents meetings written all over it.

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #368 on: August 21, 2023, 04:21:36 pm »
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“Based on the evidence available to us, we have concluded that the material posted online did not provide a full picture and that Mason did not commit the offences in respect of which he was originally charged."

Shameful statement.

Anyone who listened to that recording will know exactly who and what this individual is. For United to claim it "did not provide a full picture" is disgusting.

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #369 on: August 21, 2023, 04:23:22 pm »
Shameful statement.

Anyone who listened to that recording will know exactly who and what this individual is. For United to claim it "did not provide a full picture" is disgusting.

How the fuck did they come to that conclusion? Basically he told them he didn't do it and they've decided to go with that by the sounds of it.

So if no one wants to buy him he remains there then?
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #370 on: August 21, 2023, 04:23:46 pm »
Had to happen.

Based on how unfair it would be, he'll probably go to Saudi and earn a fortune.

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« Reply #371 on: August 21, 2023, 04:25:21 pm »
Had to happen.

Based on how unfair it would be, he'll probably go to Saudi and earn a fortune.

Taking with him the poor victim and baby to continue living a life of hell no doubt.
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #372 on: August 21, 2023, 04:30:19 pm »
That statement


Errr… we don’t think he did anything at all… he’s explained everything…

But we paid him off anyway
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #373 on: August 21, 2023, 04:30:49 pm »
His statement is even worse.
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #374 on: August 21, 2023, 04:32:32 pm »
Why have they sacked him/transfer listed him/decided he has no future - if they don't think he has done anything wrong?

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« Reply #375 on: August 21, 2023, 04:34:45 pm »
"He remains on full pay but will not return to training with United."

Worked out alright for him didn't it.  No prison time, still shacked up the the girl he is beating up, the kid on the way so she has even less chance of leaving.

Any club offering him something will give him a signing on bonus, a welcome e.t.c

But until then he get full Premier League player salary without having to go to work at all.

The bastards always seem to end up on top.

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #376 on: August 21, 2023, 04:36:04 pm »
As much as I don't like Manchester United this is the correct decision not to keep him on.

We can be mealy-mouthed about their statement, but the right decision was made.
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #377 on: August 21, 2023, 04:36:16 pm »
He claims in his statement he was cleared of all charges in February - that's a lie.

This is just absolutely shameful for Manchester United.


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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #378 on: August 21, 2023, 04:43:03 pm »
He claims in his statement he was cleared of all charges in February - that's a lie.

This is just absolutely shameful for Manchester United.



And potentially another one coming soon, Antony's girlfriend is pressing charges in Brazil too.
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #379 on: August 21, 2023, 04:43:17 pm »
As much as I don't like Manchester United this is the correct decision not to keep him on.

We can be mealy-mouthed about their statement, but the right decision was made.

They've not terminated his contract, they have just said he is up for sale/loan.

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« Reply #380 on: August 21, 2023, 04:48:23 pm »
I'm not sure they can legally terminate his contract, can they?  This is the best they can do (ignoring their attempts to keep him on).
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #381 on: August 21, 2023, 04:50:07 pm »
"Lads, it's Man Utd" ;)

Looked hopeless against Spurs. Expect some legs to be broken in the next game if their preseason antics + anger are anything to go by
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« Reply #382 on: August 21, 2023, 04:52:35 pm »
They've not terminated his contract, they have just said he is up for sale/loan.

Yeah we can say that's poor and it is, but even poorer would be if they tried to keep him and play him.

Not saying it's perfect and I'm not a fan of them, but they have got rid. Which I think we can agree is the right move.

We can certainly argue about how far that has gone and scrutiny would be on a club in this country signing him. I imagine he might play in a foreign league somewhere, but who knows. Morality isn't really a key things thesedays in football is it?
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #383 on: August 21, 2023, 04:52:43 pm »
I'm not sure they can legally terminate his contract, can they?  This is the best they can do (ignoring their attempts to keep him on).

I don't think they can, I saw a person who works in sports law on tv the other week and he stated because Greenwood was never charged never mind found guilty means if they did he could sue them for breach of contract or something.

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« Reply #384 on: August 21, 2023, 04:53:48 pm »
As much as I hate United they are in a difficult place with this. Any hint from them that the scrote has done anything wrong and they will likely end up in court. Their statement has been very carefully worded.

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« Reply #385 on: August 21, 2023, 04:56:57 pm »
OK fair enough that makes sense then lads.

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #386 on: August 21, 2023, 05:04:14 pm »
Sit down, shock is better taken with bent knees.

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #387 on: August 21, 2023, 05:04:14 pm »
As much as I hate United they are in a difficult place with this. Any hint from them that the scrote has done anything wrong and they will likely end up in court. Their statement has been very carefully worded.
Based on reporting they wanted to bring him back in to the first team and it looks like they only backed down after the latest bad PR so it's hard to have any sympathy for them.

I know it'll never be put out there, but it'd be interesting to know what alternative evidence there is they claim to have or what Greenwood thinks were mistakes he made (getting caught would be my guess)

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #388 on: August 21, 2023, 05:04:26 pm »
So they’ve concluded he didn’t commit the offences he was accused of?

How the fuck can they know that?  That’s in no way their place.

They’ve also said that Mason acknowledges he’s made mistakes.  What mistakes were these? Be clear, because you've just said he didn’t do it the offences he was accused of.

And if all this is the case, why get rid of him?

This statement is a fucking pile of shit. How could they make such a mess of it?
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« Reply #389 on: August 21, 2023, 05:12:23 pm »
Get ready for a piss boiler: https://twitter.com/JohnMcMah0n/status/1693631122981224800

What an absolute c*nt.

I thought he was going to say something like he was disappointed she pulled her testimony etc, but way worse, some full on victim blaming because his team are now a player down. Un-fucking-believable.

And people are surprised the shit fans do in stadiums and groups. Football really does bring out the worst in some people.

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« Reply #390 on: August 21, 2023, 05:15:15 pm »
Should have happened far earlier. Again if he was a reserve player with 12 months left on his deal, he'd have been let go a lot sooner

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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #391 on: August 21, 2023, 05:15:47 pm »
Get ready for a piss boiler: https://twitter.com/JohnMcMah0n/status/1693631122981224800

He's an ex bizzy that fella, probably to be expected he'd have that viewpoint. Shameless.
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« Reply #392 on: August 21, 2023, 05:24:25 pm »
Has he not had his contract terminated ?
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« Reply #393 on: August 21, 2023, 05:26:42 pm »
Has he not had his contract terminated ?

Don't think they can.

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« Reply #394 on: August 21, 2023, 05:26:51 pm »
Should get out the whole game, vermin he is.  This should never be forgotten and should haunt him for the rest of his life.  Remember, this is what was said in the video:

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« Reply #395 on: August 21, 2023, 05:27:59 pm »
Don't think they can.

Why not ?

This is terrible PR from them.
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Re: Man United - Manchester's Other Team
« Reply #396 on: August 21, 2023, 05:31:47 pm »
As people have said, shit statement from United. Scummy club all over as we all know.

Hopefully no club in England goes anywhere near the slimy little c*nt.

If he weren't as talented a footballer as he is, United would have dumped him immediately. 

United showing everyone their hand again, they were certainly planning to bring him back until they saw the outrage from various corners. Absolutely vile club.

Also a lot of disgusting posts over on Redcafe. Mostly victim blaming and talking about how cancel culture/the woke brigade has robbed them of their "best academy product in decades". Scummiest set of fans in football.
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« Reply #397 on: August 21, 2023, 05:34:55 pm »
Should get out the whole game, vermin he is.  This should never be forgotten and should haunt him for the rest of his life.  Remember, this is what was said in the video:

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« Reply #399 on: August 21, 2023, 05:40:51 pm »
Based on reporting they wanted to bring him back in to the first team and it looks like they only backed down after the latest bad PR so it's hard to have any sympathy for them.

I know it'll never be put out there, but it'd be interesting to know what alternative evidence there is they claim to have or what Greenwood thinks were mistakes he made (getting caught would be my guess)

Yeah it's odd, Maybe they can't legally terminate his contract but they're saying that audio isn't what it seems. I realise they won't but without explaining further, it doesn't really wash. Seems like they were testing the waters to bring him back but the backlash was too much.

Also begs the question where he actually goes, can't see fans of any club wanting him (maybe Newcastle and Man City would, they don't seem to have a problem with it). Wouldn't be surprised if he goes to a PIF owned club in Saudi. Wouldn't be surprised if Man Utd bring him back either, after they think some of the furore has died down.
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