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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80800 on: May 16, 2024, 11:06:57 pm »
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« Reply #80801 on: May 16, 2024, 11:32:10 pm »
Diaz isn’t better than Gordon. He was pre-injury, he isn’t now.

Not saying I want him, mind.

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« Reply #80802 on: May 16, 2024, 11:36:17 pm »
I genuinely feels like the Gordon stuff was completely made up on the Internet but no one can find the source so they now think there's some level of legitimacy to it.

I won't say it is impossible, but thats in the same sense that it is not impossible that I put my hand on the table and all the atoms in my hand and the table miss and it goes right thought.

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« Reply #80803 on: May 16, 2024, 11:53:46 pm »
Because every bastard about seems to know a family member of his that’s saying it’s a done deal, £100m  :butt
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80804 on: May 17, 2024, 04:13:39 am »

3. I agree, he’s a gobshite

He'd be our gobshite though. Reminds me of Bellamy in how much he annoyed me when he was against us, but loved his time time with us. I reckon this will he same. He would really be brilliant for us.

We need a few bellends in our side. A side that needs snide. I'd be all for this transfer.

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Were spurs not happy to pay like £7-9m for him? I'd be giving Levy a call tonight to give him an option buy.
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« Reply #80805 on: May 17, 2024, 06:00:08 am »
Really? Bring back Schmadtke from Ibiza.

Think it’s the stuff of Evertonian taxi drivers myself. Sometimes it’s just Chinese whispers from within the city.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80806 on: May 17, 2024, 07:10:50 am »
https://twitter.com/GM10Media/status/1791236154336932290?t=kLFUm3uWu80-b55ATjy9Sw&s=19

I know its norwich but could be something there to work with

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« Reply #80807 on: May 17, 2024, 07:55:29 am »
https://twitter.com/GM10Media/status/1791236154336932290?t=kLFUm3uWu80-b55ATjy9Sw&s=19

I know its norwich but could be something there to work with
we have carvalho and other players who are better than favour the left
he may be a very good player but not worth the risk

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80808 on: May 17, 2024, 08:00:31 am »
I would pretty much dismiss any claims about not letting players go. I think that is just telling potential suiters they won't be getting any of our players on the cheap. I think with a few exceptions everyone is available if the price is right.

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« Reply #80809 on: May 17, 2024, 08:21:55 am »
https://twitter.com/GM10Media/status/1791236154336932290?t=kLFUm3uWu80-b55ATjy9Sw&s=19

I know its norwich but could be something there to work with

Not only is it "only Norwich" they were so shite. Conceded and gave up. Could have made a video of any player looking good against tthem
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« Reply #80810 on: May 17, 2024, 08:28:57 am »
I would pretty much dismiss any claims about not letting players go. I think that is just telling potential suiters they won't be getting any of our players on the cheap. I think with a few exceptions everyone is available if the price is right.

Exactly this.

I think DM and CB will be the priority. But I think an attacker will have to leave for another one to come in. Whereas we need a DM and Thiago is leaving and CB with Matip leaving.

We've got to improve defensively. A DM is absolute priority. We'd have won the league this year if we had a world class one.
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« Reply #80811 on: May 17, 2024, 08:38:17 am »
https://twitter.com/GM10Media/status/1791236154336932290?t=kLFUm3uWu80-b55ATjy9Sw&s=19

I know its norwich but could be something there to work with

Looks to be similar profile to Nkunku who we apparently wanted before we signed Nunez. For the rumoured fee I'd want him.
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« Reply #80812 on: May 17, 2024, 08:45:18 am »
Exactly this.

I think DM and CB will be the priority. But I think an attacker will have to leave for another one to come in. Whereas we need a DM and Thiago is leaving and CB with Matip leaving.

We've got to improve defensively. A DM is absolute priority. We'd have won the league this year if we had a world class one.

I think we would have won the with an average injury list rather than a record breaking injury list.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80813 on: May 17, 2024, 08:45:56 am »
Considering that Diaz is the better player, paying additional £10 million for an inferior player would be really bad business ...

Is he inferior though?

Can't compare Gordons end product to Diaz.


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« Reply #80814 on: May 17, 2024, 08:47:09 am »
https://twitter.com/GM10Media/status/1791236154336932290?t=kLFUm3uWu80-b55ATjy9Sw&s=19

I know its norwich but could be something there to work with

If we're taking someone from Leeds I would rather it were Archie Gray.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80815 on: May 17, 2024, 08:55:45 am »
we have carvalho and other players who are better than favour the left
he may be a very good player but not worth the risk

Summerville is loads more suited to us than Carvalho.
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« Reply #80816 on: May 17, 2024, 09:03:52 am »
https://twitter.com/GM10Media/status/1791236154336932290?t=kLFUm3uWu80-b55ATjy9Sw&s=19

I know its norwich but could be something there to work with
The game seems to stop when he has the ball.  Looks like he has all the time in the world and his passes are well weighted.

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« Reply #80817 on: May 17, 2024, 09:41:50 am »
Why? We seem to like letting players get down to the final year on their deals.

Nothing much you can do if a player doesn't want to move on and they have a contract.
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« Reply #80818 on: May 17, 2024, 10:08:51 am »
Nothing much you can do if a player doesn't want to move on and they have a contract.
If we don't offer Diaz an improved contract I can't see him sitting on £55k a week for the next 3 years.

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« Reply #80819 on: May 17, 2024, 10:49:18 am »
it will be hard selling players.
little money around europe. psr contraints in the pl.
i think we will target some players from psr sides and release clauses & perhaps serie A with hughes's history
Ederson at Atalanta looks a good option

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« Reply #80820 on: May 17, 2024, 11:34:33 am »
it will be hard selling players.
little money around europe. psr contraints in the pl.
i think we will target some players from psr sides and release clauses & perhaps serie A with hughes's history
Ederson at Atalanta looks a good option
Has been for years. Every summer you always see fans talking about who can be sold and it always ends up not being as much. If you look at the likes of us, City, Chelsea, Arsenal it's rare for a £20m+ sale to not be to either another Premier League club or Saudi Arabia.

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« Reply #80821 on: May 17, 2024, 11:47:29 am »
Has been for years. Every summer you always see fans talking about who can be sold and it always ends up not being as much. If you look at the likes of us, City, Chelsea, Arsenal it's rare for a £20m+ sale to not be to either another Premier League club or Saudi Arabia.
harder sell in the PL too.
Only really PSG & a few top clubs around europe have any sort of money.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80822 on: May 17, 2024, 12:49:49 pm »
we have carvalho and other players who are better than favour the left
he may be a very good player but not worth the risk

How is he better?

Summerville can play on the left, the right, and through the middle. Clearly blessed with pace and skill. There is huge potential for improvement.
Summerville is one year older and has scored 20 goals and 9 assists in 45 games. Carvalho has 9 goals and 2 assists in 20 games.

I would like your take on how Carvalho is better.
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« Reply #80823 on: May 17, 2024, 01:27:54 pm »
How is he better?

Summerville can play on the left, the right, and through the middle. Clearly blessed with pace and skill. There is huge potential for improvement.
Summerville is one year older and has scored 20 goals and 9 assists in 45 games. Carvalho has 9 goals and 2 assists in 20 games.

I would like your take on how Carvalho is better.

Sommerville also showed a bit the season prior the in the premier league (scored against us)

His got pace which Carvalho doesn't have like you pointed out.

From eye test looks like he works harder off the ball too.

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« Reply #80824 on: May 17, 2024, 01:48:08 pm »
it will be hard selling players.
little money around europe. psr contraints in the pl.
i think we will target some players from psr sides and release clauses & perhaps serie A with hughes's history
Ederson at Atalanta looks a good option

I think we are going to see a ton of loans out.

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« Reply #80825 on: May 17, 2024, 01:59:09 pm »
Sommerville also showed a bit the season prior the in the premier league (scored against us)

His got pace which Carvalho doesn't have like you pointed out.

From eye test looks like he works harder off the ball too.
not that Carvalho is better he isnt.
But similar players. Carvalho i think at a top championship club would probably have similar numbers. He has 9/20 for Hull.

Im not sure we should be looking too much at the championship unless they are an exceptional talent at 17-18 & not too expensive
Carvalho was a good deal 20-30m for Summerville very risky

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« Reply #80826 on: May 17, 2024, 02:07:28 pm »
Yeah, they do seem more like squad players than genuine improvements to the team, though maybe I'm just underrating them.

I think we can probably cope without buying any squad players this year. We have people like Jaros who could perhaps be 3rd goalie after his year at Sturm Graz. Mrozek and Davies seem well-regarded goalies too.

Quansah's rise, and Gomez going a couple of years without significant injury, means we have excellent squad centrebacks already. Van den Berg may stay as well. At centreback I think we only need someone who is at least as good as Konate, but with a better fitness record.

Similar in central midfield. the return of Bajcetic, alongside our other talented midfielders and the potential of our youngsters, means we have plenty of bodies who can play there. All that's missing is an absolutely superior athletic player who will start most weeks.

The fly in the ointment of all our plans, though, must be the contract situations of Trent, Virg and Mo. Ideally, they don't go on a free transfer next year. That means selling whoever we don't re-sign, and that means replacing the sold player(s) suddenly becomes the most important part of our transfer business.

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« Reply #80827 on: May 17, 2024, 02:07:44 pm »
If we get an offer between 55m-65m for Diaz I'd probably would sell.

But I wouldn't necessarily be seeking a No.1 left winger as a replacement as I believe Gakpo is much more naturally suited to playing on the left than as a false 9 or anywhere else on the pitch. This season Gakpo's best performances have been on the left and his output in less games exceeds Diaz's.

With Jota's injury problems I would be looking to sign another striker to compete with Nunez for a starting position. No idea who that can be.

Saying that if Salah does stay I also do believe we need another RW in the squad who can give Salah the opportunity to rest and also provide competition however I don't see us signing more than one forward - unless Salah leaves. If Salah and Diaz both leave, then yes I do see us signing two players and in that scenario I would not mind that being 1 player ready made now for the starting XI and the other being a potential top class player like a Summerville for example.


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« Reply #80828 on: May 17, 2024, 02:11:37 pm »
actually think alphonso davies as a left winger in a 4-2-3-1 would be a great signing.
Real dont want to pay the money for him Bayern would sell for 50-60m
wages prob too high for us though

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« Reply #80829 on: May 17, 2024, 02:27:15 pm »
it will be hard selling players.
little money around europe. psr contraints in the pl.
i think we will target some players from psr sides and release clauses & perhaps serie A with hughes's history
Ederson at Atalanta looks a good option


I agree about selling players.

The good thing is that we won’t have many players to sell. Most players we do end up selling will be young players on relatively low wages or potentially elite players were contract situation may drive a sale.


Those situations feel much more conducive to being able to find buyers than trying to sell squad fodder who are on high wages and long contracts. Some of the other big clubs in the league are n this situation and I think they’ll find it hard to shift unwanted high wage earners.


The other aspect is that PSR concerns means there will be an acute need for sales at other clubs. Either to come in line with PSR or free up funds for purchases. Not necessarily just at small clubs. We probably won’t have this concern, allowing us be relaxed about selling players but also maybe in a position to take advantage of other clubs when looking to buy.
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« Reply #80830 on: May 17, 2024, 02:27:42 pm »
actually think alphonso davies as a left winger in a 4-2-3-1 would be a great signing.
Real dont want to pay the money for him Bayern would sell for 50-60m
wages prob too high for us though

He will just wait a year and leave on a free. Madrid will probably want to sort their left and right back situation out with free transfers for Trent and Davies. Its sickening to even think about.

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« Reply #80831 on: May 17, 2024, 03:17:52 pm »
He will just wait a year and leave on a free. Madrid will probably want to sort their left and right back situation out with free transfers for Trent and Davies. Its sickening to even think about.

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« Reply #80832 on: May 17, 2024, 03:31:01 pm »
Just in time for Alonso to take the helm

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« Reply #80833 on: May 17, 2024, 04:17:20 pm »
Is Adrian staying then? Maybe as a coach?
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« Reply #80834 on: May 17, 2024, 04:20:37 pm »

I agree about selling players.

The good thing is that we won’t have many players to sell. Most players we do end up selling will be young players on relatively low wages or potentially elite players were contract situation may drive a sale.

Those situations feel much more conducive to being able to find buyers than trying to sell squad fodder who are on high wages and long contracts. Some of the other big clubs in the league are n this situation and I think they’ll find it hard to shift unwanted high wage earners.

The other aspect is that PSR concerns means there will be an acute need for sales at other clubs. Either to come in line with PSR or free up funds for purchases. Not necessarily just at small clubs. We probably won’t have this concern, allowing us be relaxed about selling players but also maybe in a position to take advantage of other clubs when looking to buy.

We typically don't pursue this route, but I'm wondering if we could do a cheeky loan-to-buy for some of the players at Chelsea or Barcelona (although most of their players don't want to leave).  It's a long-shot but if they have a player with the right profile who hasn't been playing (at Chelsea, it might be the club's incompetence as much as anything else), maybe it's worth a punt.

I suppose the best success stories (Salah, KDB) are when they left, went to other top leagues, and proved themselves before us/City bought them.  They weren't directly purchased from Chelsea, but maybe there's a player there that's not going to get playing time and/or are hard to shift, and we can take advantage somehow.
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« Reply #80835 on: May 17, 2024, 04:21:21 pm »
He said he was still talking to the club last week.

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« Reply #80836 on: May 17, 2024, 06:52:08 pm »
Id bring in Todibo and Olise. Combined that would be what, £90m?

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« Reply #80837 on: May 17, 2024, 06:56:51 pm »
it will be hard selling players.
little money around europe. psr contraints in the pl.
i think we will target some players from psr sides and release clauses & perhaps serie A with hughes's history
Ederson at Atalanta looks a good option

You're basically relying on Saudi.

There's not many clubs that can afford to spend in Europe and the ones that can might not pay the big wages or be where players want to go.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #80839 on: May 17, 2024, 07:08:09 pm »
Reminds me more of Mane, his acceleration and the way he skips past defenders. No idea if he could reach that level, but good performance from him.
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