Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted)

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

I actually think hes ours. To come out the blue like this for him is just like us

[Tommy Torres]

We've signed two players already mate.   

That was about 8 bids ago!

[Fromola]

Not to be that guy, but even if we get Caicedo we would still need a second midfielder IMO. Lavia would be even more ideal in that scenario, as we wouldn't be pinning all our hopes on him and he's a different enough type to Caicedo that they could play together.

Maybe Andre will be the second midfielder regardless. What I'd say is that we're in a slight self inflicted pickle if it's Caicedo + Andre, because we'd be at capacity on the non homegrown side which means a CB (unless homegrown) is probably contingent on a departure. Would also mean poor Ben Doak couldn't play in the Europa League, but guess that's not a big concern?

I think we'd be okay if we did get him, a 2nd would be more of a luxury. We'd have 7 (plus potentially Trent or Gakpo).

If we lost Thiago then yeah, but that would also give us the extra non-HG spot.

[the_red_pill]

How is this going to get Southampton to lower the price? If anything, won't it tell S'hampton we've got £100m in the transfer fund?

Oldest trick in Marketing and Negotiation- create "urgency"(its brother is Mr. "scarcity").
They now have an unsettled player in a pivotal year for them, and they're gunna lose even that "measly" 4xmillion pounds. The season starts in a few days.
He won't be near that valuation next season, IF they come back up.

It's squeaky-bum time!

[Hazell]

[Working Class Hen-Pecked Hero]

I hope we're still on for Andre in January, I imagine it will be all our pennies spent

[Barefoot Doctor]

I believe Ben Doak doesn't count as 'home grown' for the Europa anyway.

I'm sure I read that somewhere?

Happy to be corrected.

No, he doesn't count as homegrown for EL purposes - which means we need to keep a non-homegrown spot free for him, or he can't feature.

[Nick110581]

If we genuinely are trying to negotiate a fee with Brighton then we must have been speaking to him and he must have given us some indication that he'd consider a move. I'm still of the view that this is all Brighton and us working together to smoke out Chelsea to up their most recent offer sooner rather than later.

Why would we do that ?

[red mongoose]

I actually think hes ours. To come out the blue like this for him is just like us

It's Caponing!

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I actually think hes ours. To come out the blue like this for him is just like us

We need some Capon photoshop magic to commemorate this deal.......Gary Wilmott can be used as a substitute for Caicedo

[Caps4444]

I actually think hes ours. To come out the blue like this for him is just like us

We must have had some encouragement from the players agent / entourage that he would be keen on moving to Liverpool..would be stupid to bid knowing he wants Chelsea…..but then again he wanted Arsenal in January.

Could be he wants London.

[RedG13]

I believe Ben Doak doesn't count as 'home grown' for the Europa anyway.

I'm sure I read that somewhere?

Happy to be corrected.

he does in March irc. Not the group stage. Can just unregister Adrian for group stage not a big deal

[A Red Abroad]

No, he doesn't count as homegrown for EL purposes - which means we need to keep a non-homegrown spot free for him, or he can't feature.

Gotcha! Ta!

 

[B0151?]

Chelsea are still the favorites because they have agreed personal terms with Caicedo and his agent. If we also agree the personal terms with him and his agent (it seems that is what is going on at the moment), we will make our bid ...

"Caceido's preference is Chelsea" = Liverpool make me and my client a tasty offer

[Caps4444]

The other thing to add is that Chelsea can blow us out of the water with regards his salary….can’t imagine we would pay more than 120/150 a week….can see Chelsea offering 200+

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

We need some Capon photoshop magic to commemorate this deal.......Gary Wilmott can be used as a substitute for Caicedo

[shank94]

What was Chelsea's last bid? Fixed + addons?

[PeterTheRed ...]

Why be difficult when it’s a blank cheque which would help Brighton bring in 3 replacements? The window ticks on and Brighton have less time to get in who they want. Would have been better to accept the Chelsea bid and got round to spending.

Chelsea's last bid was £75+5 million, some £20 million lower than Brighton's valuation of the player. Also, we don't know the payment terms of their bid, but it was rejected immediately, so I suppose it was not that favorable for Brighton. So basically, it was not a blank cheque for them ...

[shook]

The other thing to add is that Chelsea can blow us out of the water with regards his salary….can’t imagine we would pay more than 120/150 a week….can see Chelsea offering 200+

Isnt that more difficult for them now that they only can do 5 year contracts?

[the_red_pill]

Why bid if Chelsea are the favourites?

Exactly.
Which means they prolly aren't.

[Garlicbread]

Romano on Instagram:

𝐂𝐚𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐝𝐨 𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐥, 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭’𝐬 𝐠𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐧? 🃏🇪🇨

Brighton want Moisés Caicedo saga to be over in 24 hours — by the end of the week in any case 🔵⚠️

◉ Brighton have decided to sell Moisés to the highest bidder — then it will be up to the player’s preference.

🔴 Liverpool will bid for sure, tonight or onFriday — expected to be more than £80m Chelsea bid days ago.

🔵 Chelsea also remain on it with their bid — and with the possibility to improve that proposal if they want.

◉ Chelsea keep their ‘dream’ to unveil Caicedo as new signing at Stamford Bridge on Sunday afternoon.

◉ Liverpool want to try for Caicedo as they feel it’s good chance after 3 bids rejected for Roméo Lavia.

◉ Bayern called Brighton earlier to be informed on Caicedo situation but didn’t follow up with a bid.

[Caps4444]

No - I think they can still long ones, I thought the players they signed this window were on 7/8 years?

The length of contract was to amortise the transfer fee.

They are probably offering 100k more than we will.

[BobPaisley3]

Chelsea's last bid was £75+5 million, some £20 million lower than Brighton's valuation of the player. Also, we don't know the payment terms of their bid, but it was rejected immediately, so I suppose it was not that favorable for Brighton. So basically, it was not a blank cheque for them ...

I see. It will ultimately be a blank cheque though eventually. If they want him, they’ll pay it.

[shook]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-make-contact-with-brighton-over-moises-caicedo-g2hk2pdh5

Liverpool in talks to hijack Moisés Caicedo deal
Anfield club are likely to follow up with a bid for Ecuador midfielder, who is a long-standing target of Chelsea

100 million pounds

[Fromola]

The other thing to add is that Chelsea can blow us out of the water with regards his salary….can’t imagine we would pay more than 120/150 a week….can see Chelsea offering 200+

Depends how high Chelsea are willing to go. If you're prepared to pay a club record fee you'd expect a wage bill to match. He wouldn't be matching Mo's salary but at least in line with our next highest earners/what we were paying Henderson/Fabinho.

Even Keita/Ox were on about 100k, maybe a bit more.

[tray fenny]

Whack the bid in and tell Brighton we'll pay them an extra 5 million if we beat Chelsea on Sunday just for a laugh. And 10 if Caicedo moons up at Bohely in the directors box
That's what add ons were invented for

this guy wins

[the_red_pill]

Yep, think weve heard of another opportunity and bang its gonna get done. Whatll that be now? The last 4 transfers? Gakpo macallister and Szoboslai? plus this

I know Szobo was a buyout clause

Edit and Diaz an all, so 5

Carvalho?

[Barefoot Doctor]

That briefing to Liverpool journos on 'due diligence should a deal with Chelsea collapse' feels more and more like the club trying to make Chelsea think we weren't an immediate threat for Caicedo, and buy time to do the deal.

[Jean Girard]

Tonight or on Friday is permission to go to bed I think. We'll not hear anything

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-make-contact-with-brighton-over-moises-caicedo-g2hk2pdh5

Liverpool in talks to hijack Moisés Caicedo deal
Anfield club are likely to follow up with a bid for Ecuador midfielder, who is a long-standing target of Chelsea

100 million pounds

https://archive.li/hYGis

[DelTrotter]

I actually think hes ours. To come out the blue like this for him is just like us

Agreed, would be very weird to do all this just for him to sign for Chelsea tomorrow. I know all the articles have "prefers Chelsea" in there but I'm not buying it, he's wanked over Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea so far, he just wants his big move.

[jepovic]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-make-contact-with-brighton-over-moises-caicedo-g2hk2pdh5

Liverpool in talks to hijack Moisés Caicedo deal
Anfield club are likely to follow up with a bid for Ecuador midfielder, who is a long-standing target of Chelsea

Make contact sounds like we had to send a space mission there.
Jesus, we have fax machines, its not that hard

[PeterTheRed ...]

"Caceido's preference is Chelsea" = Liverpool make me and my client a tasty offer

Well, I'd be surprised if we are not negotiating with Caicedo and his agent as we speak ...

[jepovic]

Agreed, would be very weird to do all this just for him to sign for Chelsea tomorrow. I know all the articles have "prefers Chelsea" in there but I'm not buying it, he's wanked over Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea so far, he just wants his big move.

Then again, weird is the official theme of this silly season

[Caps4444]

Depends how high Chelsea are willing to go. If you're prepared to pay a club record fee you'd expect a wage bill to match. He wouldn't be matching Mo's salary but at least in line with our next highest earners/what we were paying Henderson/Fabinho.

So probably 200k…..going to be an interesting. 24hrs.

Personally think he will take us up a level…..interesting that he will be more expensive based on the fee than Jude B.

Hope we get him.  But if we have paid for 2 release clauses in full already….can’t imagine we want to pay a big chunk up front.

[RedBec1993]

Wouldn’t have Klopp already have spoken to Caicedo?

[Samie]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-make-contact-with-brighton-over-moises-caicedo-g2hk2pdh5

Jurgen Klopp will hope to speak to Moises Caicedo and lay out his vision. [@_pauljoyce]

Liverpool are likely to bid for Moises caicedo after talks with Brighton.

[Caston]

Jurgen Klopp will hope to speak to Moises Caicedo and lay out his vision. - @_pauljoyce

No pressure Kloppo!

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Carvalho?

Yeah, mate. Theres probably more im forgetting. My point is this is the kinda thing we do

[PhiLFC#1]

Still can't see this happening, but I want both if it does. Was getting excited about Lavia