Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted)

[Legs]

It all depends on what the new manager wants. If its three at the back then wing backs need to be looked at. We also need to see how he sets up a midfield two. Also the forwards as well.

Any manager who changes to a back three would be stupid.

Why would you need to do that when we are clearly one of the best sides in the League/Europe ?

[lionel_messias]

New manager comes in and he will do things his way.

That's it really. Moving to 3 at the back might give us a new stability, new style of play. We will have to wait and see really.

One thing is for certain: the Klopp era comes to an end, as all eras do.

[killer-heels]

New manager comes in and he will do things his way.

That's it really. Moving to 3 at the back might give us a new stability, new style of play. We will have to wait and see really.

One thing is for certain: the Klopp era comes to an end, as all eras do.

An important consideration about switching to a back three is how the players deal with it. We have a lot of experienced winners. A new manager coming in with very little experience and then changing everything doesnt always go down well.

[Henry Gale]

An important consideration about switching to a back three is how the players deal with it. We have a lot of experienced winners. A new manager coming in with very little experience and then changing everything doesnt always go down well.

I highly doubt the new manager will come in, rip everything up and start again but he will want to implement his own style and tactics. The players will have to get onboard with that.

[clinical]

An important consideration about switching to a back three is how the players deal with it. We have a lot of experienced winners. A new manager coming in with very little experience and then changing everything doesnt always go down well.

Diaz could work at lwb considering Amorim converted Santos in the same way. Trent on the otherside. We'd need another cb even more though.

[Draex]

This is kind of funny..

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@FabrizioRomano
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“It collapsed because I said no”.

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@thiagorabelo1

[Peabee]

Diaz could work at lwb considering Amorim converted Santos in the same way. Trent on the otherside. We'd need another cb even more though.

Diaz at LWB would feel like Brendan Rodgers 2.0.

[killer-heels]

I highly doubt the new manager will come in, rip everything up and start again but he will want to implement his own style and tactics. The players will have to get onboard with that.

Yes I get that and I don't think he will but its simple to say players get on board, but its another to quickly get that authority. Players are not robotic, they may very well question things especially systems. That sort of thing can make or break him.

[Henry Gale]

Yes I get that and I don't think he will but its simple to say players get on board, but its another to quickly get that authority. Players are not robotic, they may very well question things especially systems. That sort of thing can make or break him.

Now this is where Klopps no "knobheads" rule will help as I think the squad is pretty good in that regard. The players will understand a change in tactics is normal for a new manager.

[Chris~]

Feel like asking Trent to go back several years and just provide the width is a waste of what he brings to the side now. You'd probably be better having him as some weird hybrid centre back/midfielder role if the manager wanted to play 3 at the back and have Bradley as a wing back

[killer-heels]

Now this is where Klopps no "knobheads" rule will help as I think the squad is pretty good in that regard. The players will understand a change in tactics is normal for a new manager.

Only if it leads to a good start. If results are not bang on then it can quickly turn.

I don't think Amorim changes the setup by the way.

[Barefoot Doctor]

Monitoring Sunderland's Anthony Patterson, says Twin Peaks director David Lynch - an option if Kelleher moves on this summer:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2024/04/liverpool-interested-in-sunderlands-no-1-goalkeeper-with-opening-likely-in-summer/

[Samie]

Adrian, is out of contract at the end of the campaign with an extension currently considered unlikely.

[@dmlynchlfc]

[Hazell]

All the OAPs are leaving following Klopp's departure and Mikey Edwards coming back into the FSG bosom.

No idea what that means going forward.

[Coolie High]

Could we still do with an athletic DM?

[killer-heels]

Could we still do with an athletic DM?

Yep. Mac Allister has been great at 6 and at 8. But are we at the point now where we get more out of him at the 8 position? We may very well be at that point.

[Asam]

Could we still do with an athletic DM?

Is the athletic DM McConnell? unless we can find someone truly outstanding I wouldn’t want to block his pathway to the side

Gravenberch is one who I thought might be able to adapt to that position but he still not adapted to the physicality in the premier league

[Knight]

Could we still do with an athletic DM?

Yes. We should be able to play the likes of Mac and Elliott in the same team whilst having elite athleticism from our 6. That's currently not possible. Needs to be very good on the ball too mind. 

[Bennett]

Gravenberch is one who I thought might be able to adapt to that position but he still not adapted to the physicality in the premier league

Just doesn't suit his skillset whatsoever.

[Coolie High]

Is the athletic DM McConnell? unless we can find someone truly outstanding I wouldn’t want to block his pathway to the side

Gravenberch is one who I thought might be able to adapt to that position but he still not adapted to the physicality in the premier league

I kinda agree with that first sentence but more to do with Bajcetic.

[farawayred]

I kinda agree with that first sentence but more to do with Bajcetic.

Same for me. Though we haven't really seen Bajcetic in action yet in the way he is now. It looks like he grew a foot and put on some weight, maybe he lost some speed but gained strength? Let's see him on the pitch first.

[TeddyMc]

Would Edwards & Hughes the stats and money men consider selling Alisson and keeping Kelleher if a big money offer from Saudi came in for Alisson.

[Thehunter1978]

Would Edwards & Hughes the stats and money men consider selling Alisson and keeping Kelleher if a big money offer from Saudi came in for Alisson.

I bloody well hope not. Why would you even think about selling the best keeper in the world? He's only 31 which isn't that old in keeper years

[Samie]

Would Edwards & Hughes the stats and money men consider selling Alisson and keeping Kelleher if a big money offer from Saudi came in for Alisson.

Why would we sell him with three years left and why the fuck would the world;s best keeper go to Saudi?

[Asam]

Would Edwards & Hughes the stats and money men consider selling Alisson and keeping Kelleher if a big money offer from Saudi came in for Alisson.

If he was 34/35 then maybe but not whilst he’s in his peak

[farawayred]

Would Edwards & Hughes the stats and money men consider selling Alisson and keeping Kelleher if a big money offer from Saudi came in for Alisson.

Not if he's fit. His fitness outlook should and will be the closest guarded secret, so we'd never know. But if the forecast looks like he won't be available for a large chunk of each season, then your question has merit. If the injuries are accidental and nothing related to predisposition of sorts, than that's a moot point.

[red mongoose]

Could we still do with an athletic DM?

We could do with Ugarte.

[lionel_messias]

An important consideration about switching to a back three is how the players deal with it. We have a lot of experienced winners. A new manager coming in with very little experience and then changing everything doesnt always go down well.

In possession, we currently shift to a 3 at the back, don't we? I think from a defensive perspective, we should be able to handle it; certainly Virgil, Konate, and Gomez should be very comfortable. It is true, in a FOUR, Amorim plays only two central midfielders so that would be a change, and also, YES, it would be two forwards behind a '1'. Bit of a shift.

Not massive though. If Trent becomes a wide midfielder, you need one other, plus a LCB and possibly a new midfield destroyer to partner Mac Allister.


We ought to be able to handle our new base being Inacio, Virgil, Konate I would have thought...

[killer-heels]

In possession, we currently shift to a 3 at the back, don't we? I think from a defensive perspective, we should be able to handle it; certainly Virgil, Konate, and Gomez should be very comfortable. It is true, in a FOUR, Amorim plays only two central midfielders so that would be a change, and also, YES, it would be two forwards behind a '1'. Bit of a shift.

Not massive though. If Trent becomes a wide midfielder, you need one other, plus a LCB and possibly a new midfield destroyer to partner Mac Allister.


We ought to be able to handle our new base being Inacio, Virgil, Konate I would have thought...

Ive read more Amorim stuff thats quite readily available and whilst the style isnt very different, in that they do go direct, their build up is. The defenders do a lot of the build up apparently. Also they defend with a back five when they dont have the ball, we dont ours is very much a four and a compact three.

I also think its highly unlikely that Trent is playing as a wingback for us.

If you get a midfielder in then thats a lot of players not getting games. There is then 2 midfield and 3 attacking spots on the field and we would have Mac, a new guy, Jones, Szobozslai, Gravenberch, Endo, Bajetic, Elliott, Gakpo, Nunez, Diaz, Salah and Jota all fighting it out for 5 positions.

I just cant see a situation where a manager like Amorim comes into an established side with experienced players who have won stuff, who have competed or even won the league the season before and with a lot of attacking players and says you guys have to play 3 at the back, even if that means changing the make up of the squad fairly significantly.

The only chance he does that is if there wasnt huge expectation. But if he is expected to compete, then it serves no purpose to give your side a disadvantage of a new style and a new formation to contend with.

I think over the next few years he could mould them to a side that plays three at the back as some experienced players leave. Not straight away though.

[Sangria]

In possession, we currently shift to a 3 at the back, don't we? I think from a defensive perspective, we should be able to handle it; certainly Virgil, Konate, and Gomez should be very comfortable. It is true, in a FOUR, Amorim plays only two central midfielders so that would be a change, and also, YES, it would be two forwards behind a '1'. Bit of a shift.

Not massive though. If Trent becomes a wide midfielder, you need one other, plus a LCB and possibly a new midfield destroyer to partner Mac Allister.


We ought to be able to handle our new base being Inacio, Virgil, Konate I would have thought...

The thing is, do we make it a back 3 with a CM dropping back, or a back 3 with a CB stepping into midfield? We're equipped for the former. We're not equipped for the latter.

Personally, I prefer the former. Midfielders 4 teh win.

[lionel_messias]

Ive read more Amorim stuff thats quite readily available and whilst the style isnt very different, in that they do go direct, their build up is. The defenders do a lot of the build up apparently. Also they defend with a back five when they dont have the ball, we dont ours is very much a four and a compact three.

I also think its highly unlikely that Trent is playing as a wingback for us.

If you get a midfielder in then thats a lot of players not getting games. There is then 2 midfield and 3 attacking spots on the field and we would have Mac, a new guy, Jones, Szobozslai, Gravenberch, Endo, Bajetic, Elliott, Gakpo, Nunez, Diaz, Salah and Jota all fighting it out for 5 positions.

I just cant see a situation where a manager like Amorim comes into an established side with experienced players who have won stuff, who have competed or even won the league the season before and with a lot of attacking players and says you guys have to play 3 at the back, even if that means changing the make up of the squad fairly significantly.

The only chance he does that is if there wasnt huge expectation. But if he is expected to compete, then it serves no purpose to give your side a disadvantage of a new style and a new formation to contend with.

I think over the next few years he could mould them to a side that plays three at the back as some experienced players leave. Not straight away though.

Will be interesting (obviously!) to see what he does. Klopp's 3-man midfield is very specific and well coached, and all those coaches will be gone.

The other issue is Darwin Nunez, Amorim will have seen him in Portugese league and it might seem the right time to make him the absolute focal point of the attack, rather than a rotating swiss-Army chaos merchant.

Either way, I still think Amorim brings in Gonzalo Inacio into back THREE to begin the process of bringing more calmness and control into the Liverpool team.
I may be wrong of course.

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Either way, I still think Amorim brings in Gonzalo Inacio into back THREE to begin the process of bringing more calmness and control into the Liverpool team.
I may be wrong of course.

Well sometimes new managers just bring in someone familiar with their system to help smooth transitiuon so you never know

[BobPaisley3]

Well sometimes new managers just bring in someone familiar with their system to help smooth transitiuon so you never know

I’m still waiting for Pablo Aimar from 2004.

[Redley]

I’m still waiting for Pablo Aimar from 2004.

That was an exciting time. Would it be Aimar? Ayala? Albelda? Baraja? Vicente?

Nah....Pellegrino.

[HardworkDedication]

Luis Diaz could leave Liverpool for PSG after talks with player’s agent
Díaz’s agent also looks after Sporting Lisbon coach Ruben Amorim who is a potential successor to Jürgen Klopp

Sam Wallace, CHIEF FOOTBALL WRITER
9 April 2024 • 5:00pm

Liverpool and their winger Luis Díaz face a crossroads this summer with a decision on whether to extend the Colombian’s contract or sell him, given interest from Paris St-Germain and others in the player.

Díaz, 27, has been a resounding success at Liverpool since arriving from Porto for around £37.5 million in the January 2022 window. He shares an agent, Raul Costa, with one of the potential successors to Jürgen Klopp, Ruben Amorim. Costa is understood to have travelled to Britain recently to visit his client on Merseyside.

Unusually for a signing who has had two strong years at the club, Díaz is yet to agree a contract extension to replace the original which he signed on his arrival. He will still be contracted for three years come the end of the season, although it is likely at that point it will be necessary for both parties to decide whether he stays for the long term or moves on.

PSG are understood to be one interested club, and also Barcelona although given their financial situation it could be hard for the Catalan club to offer Liverpool the kind of fee they might be seeking. Díaz is rated at around £75 million by Liverpool. He missed seven months of last season with a knee injury but has come roaring back to form this term with eight goals and four assists in 30 Premier League appearances, and a further five in other competitions.

Díaz earned special praise from Klopp after scoring an equaliser at Luton Town last November amid a family ordeal in which both parents were kidnapped in Colombia before they were eventually released.

Picking the right moment to sell players has become just as crucial as signings and extensions – given the red lines around permitted losses under profit and sustainability rules.

Sources have denied that an agreement has been reached informally between Liverpool and Amorim over the manager’s job although the Sporting Lisbon coach remains a contender for the role.

Now that Xabi Alonso has ruled himself out, others come into play including Roberto De Zerbi, at Brighton, and potentially the Germany manager Julian Nagelsmann.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/09/luis-diaz-may-join-psg-from-liverpool-after-talks-agent/

[Bennett]

Luis Diaz could leave Liverpool for PSG after talks with player’s agent
Díaz’s agent also looks after Sporting Lisbon coach Ruben Amorim who is a potential successor to Jürgen Klopp

Last line "Now that Xabi Alonso has ruled himself out, others come into play including Roberto De Zerbi, at Brighton, and potentially the Germany manager Julian Nagelsmann"

Proves this fella has no idea what he's talking about.

[Samie]

I;m taking 75 million for him.

[Original]

I;m taking 75 million for him.

Yeah I'd have a bit of that myself

[DelTrotter]

Get me 90m and Xavi Simons in exchange.

[HardworkDedication]

I can see Salah being sold this summer so if we sell Diaz we will need to sign two forwards imo