Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted)

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

Compared to the midfield rebuild, how well the attack rebuild go?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Compared to the midfield rebuild, how well the attack rebuild go?

I don't even think it is a rebuild. I think it is one player (pace and can dribble). Problem we have is we are one paced without Nunez so if he has an off day we generally look off.

If we have someone who has pace and directness as well we probably are fine then

[Chris~]

I don't even think it is a rebuild. I think it is one player (pace and can dribble). Problem we have is we are one paced without Nunez so if he has an off day we generally look off.

If we have someone who has pace and directness as well we probably are fine then

If we're going 343 next year I can't see us signing another forward given how many we have already plus the number of attacking midfielders. Would need to be shifting 2-3 of them on which maybe but seems unlikely

[Clint Eastwood]

Compared to the midfield rebuild, how well the attack rebuild go?

Dreadful. If Diaz isn't playing we don't have a winger.

[killer-heels]

If we're going 343 next year I can't see us signing another forward given how many we have already plus the number of attacking midfielders. Would need to be shifting 2-3 of them on which maybe but seems unlikely

That 3-4-3 thing needs to be binned, we absolutely dont have the players for it.

[MonsLibpool]

Need to sign another goal scorer. Consistently failing to hit the target when given clear cut chances is just not good enough. xG can't explain that away.

[Haggis36]

I think we need quite a few, but normally by this point in the season we're starting to hear about finalising our key targets, but we're nearly half way through April without knowing what formation we'll even be playing next season, which makes me think we might struggle to make the additions that are required (particularly factoring in international competitions).

I think we need a pacy forward and a CB as an absolute minimum, and depending on the set-up next season, possible a DM and LB/LWB. Maybe even another CB if we're moving to 3 at the back.

Squad depth is broadly decent, but there are a few obvious spots in the starting 11 that are looking upgradeable.

[MBL?]

That 3-4-3 thing needs to be binned, we absolutely dont have the players for it.

This is mental. There's no reason we can't change formation and to say we can't is defeatist. The new manager has to be able to change what he likes. A change to 3 centre backs and playing a similar style is hardly changing the world.

I can see the posts already after a few bad results because I've no doubt it will take a bit of time to implement. The only way I could agree with criticism of 3 is if we don't sign 1 or 2 new ones.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

I think we need quite a few, but normally by this point in the season we're starting to hear about finalising our key targets, but we're nearly half way through April without knowing what formation we'll even be playing next season, which makes me think we might struggle to make the additions that are required (particularly factoring in international competitions).

I think we need a pacy forward and a CB as an absolute minimum, and depending on the set-up next season, possible a DM and LB/LWB. Maybe even another CB if we're moving to 3 at the back.

Squad depth is broadly decent, but there are a few obvious spots in the starting 11 that are looking upgradeable.

3 at the back to me means 2 CB's. I wouldn't mind a LWB like Ait-Nouri, and a fast dribbling forward/attacking midfielder

[killer-heels]

This is mental. There's no reason we can't change formation and to say we can't is defeatist. The new manager has to be able to change what he likes. A change to 3 centre backs and playing a similar style is hardly changing the world.

I can see the posts already after a few bad results because I've no doubt it will take a bit of time to implement. The only way I could agree with criticism of 3 is if we don't sign 1 or 2 new ones.

We dont have the players. We would need to sign another centreback. For wing backs you need a couple of real athletic footballers with physicality. Trent and Bradley are not that. Then we have so many attackers and 8’s with still more needed.

Any new manager wanting to win will need to hit the ground running.

[MBL?]

3 at the back to me means 2 CB's. I wouldn't mind a LWB like Ait-Nouri, and a fast dribbling forward/attacking midfielder

How is 3 at the back 2 cbs?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

How is 3 at the back 2 cbs?

We need one with Matip leaving anyway, and for me I always like having double what you need - 4 CB options for 2 places, 6 for 3 places. Especially as you are talking about some of the players being injury prone like Konate.

[Haggis36]

We dont have the players. We would need to sign another centreback. For wing backs you need a couple of real athletic footballers with physicality. Trent and Bradley are not that. Then we have so many attackers and 8’s with still more needed.

Any new manager wanting to win will need to hit the ground running.

Bradley is very athletic I would say - Trent I'm not so sure, I don't think he'll have any appetite to play RWB to be honest, he wants to be a midfielder.

[killer-heels]

Bradley is very athletic I would say - Trent I'm not so sure, I don't think he'll have any appetite to play RWB to be honest, he wants to be a midfielder.

Then that means you need to sign another specialist wing back as you dont have the option of Gomez on that role either.

I dont think Amorim will be insisting on playing a single formation, would be the sign of a very inflexible manager. But if he does then we need 4 or 5 players and many shipped out the door.

[Haggis36]

We need one with Matip leaving anyway, and for me I always like having double what you need - 4 CB options for 2 places, 6 for 3 places. Especially as you are talking about some of the players being injury prone like Konate.

Not to mention we could do with managing VVD's minutes at 33 - I think part of the reason he's looked a man reborn this season is because we were able to rest him in the first half of the season in Europe. Quansah still learning, Gomez has barely played at CB this season having looked shaky (to be kind) in that position last season. Konate is entirely unreliable fitness-wise.

We have four senior options - one well into his 30s, one who can't play twice a week without picking up muscular injuries, one who's in his first season of senior football, and one who's not totally convinced at CB for a couple of years. We definitely need 2 if we're playing 3ATB (unless we move Bajcetic back).

[MBL?]

We dont have the players. We would need to sign another centreback. For wing backs you need a couple of real athletic footballers with physicality. Trent and Bradley are not that. Then we have so many attackers and 8’s with still more needed.

Any new manager wanting to win will need to hit the ground running.

We have been playing with wing backs for years. They've only been traditional full backs in name. The only real difference is one less mid for one more cb. A few of the mids can be used in attack and if not they will be sold if we have a surplus. You mention trent and Bradley, both would benefit from more cover, especially Trent who is more of a playmaker.

Don't see why we would need anymore 8s and would only need more attackers if we sell or think we can upgrade.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Bradley is very athletic I would say - Trent I'm not so sure, I don't think he'll have any appetite to play RWB to be honest, he wants to be a midfielder.

We already have 7 players for 2 positions (or 11 for 4 if you include the players behind the striker). To add Trent as well would be mad, and mean we need a RWB

[MBL?]

We need one with Matip leaving anyway, and for me I always like having double what you need - 4 CB options for 2 places, 6 for 3 places. Especially as you are talking about some of the players being injury prone like Konate.

I misunderstood what you were saying. Yeah I agree with that especially when you consider injury problems with Konate.

[Samie]

I myself have been guilty of this but this thread is so reactionary after a defeat. Buckle up lads and lasses.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

I myself have been guilty of this but this thread is so reactionary after a defeat. Buckle up lads and lasses.

I don't think it has been as bad as I expected. Largely the same comments as usual

[careful on these streets, I've heard stories]

I don't even think it is a rebuild. I think it is one player (pace and can dribble). Problem we have is we are one paced without Nunez so if he has an off day we generally look off.

If we have someone who has pace and directness as well we probably are fine then

We don't tend to create lots of big chances i.e. 1v1 with the keeper of pullbacks for tap-ins. Recently the final pass just isn't right either too heavy or slightly behind the attacker. I think we need to upgrade one or two players in our attack

[Samie]

Tonight we only had Darwin in the Attack and Midfield that had pace. Why in God's name have we moved away from Direct and pacey players? With Edwards coming back we will rectify this.

[Knight]

Tonight we only had Darwin in the Attack and Midfield that had pace. Why in God's name have we moved away from Direct and pacey players? With Edwards coming back we will rectify this.

Gapko is a good player in his own right but a slightly odd signing given the above. If we'd bought an 'on the last man' wide forward instead the makeup of the squad would be so different right now.

[Draex]

Tonight we only had Darwin in the Attack and Midfield that had pace. Why in God's name have we moved away from Direct and pacey players? With Edwards coming back we will rectify this.

Yep all one paced, the team is crying out for players who will attack their man and be able to get past them. We are the crab 11.

[killer-heels]

Tonight we only had Darwin in the Attack and Midfield that had pace. Why in God's name have we moved away from Direct and pacey players? With Edwards coming back we will rectify this.

The attacking signings since Jota have all been questionable. Not that they are bad players, but Diaz, Nunez and Gakpo havent hit the heights of Mane, Salah and Jota.

[Stockholm Syndrome]

The attacking signings since Jota have all been questionable. Not that they are bad players, but Diaz, Nunez and Gakpo havent hit the heights of Mane, Salah and Jota.

Diaz I would say has been fine until his major injury. Since coming back from injury he runs hot and cold between what he was like when he first signed (really great) and really not great

[JackWard33]

The attacking signings since Jota have all been questionable. Not that they are bad players, but Diaz, Nunez and Gakpo havent hit the heights of Mane, Salah and Jota.

Nunez is one of the best signings we've made in the last 5 years - its just totally befuddling to me that anyone whose watched him and LFC could put him in a list of questionable signings.. how he's viewed has honestly made me question a huge swathe of people's footballs opinions at a base level.. its the most bat shit thing I've seen in the last decade of watching us

[Felch Aid]

Broken record but please can we have a defensive midfielder. Love Endo but we do need a world class destroyer to break up play and protect the back 4. Any names?

[PaleBlueDot]

Nunez is one of the best signings we've made in the last 5 years - its just totally befuddling to me that anyone whose watched him and LFC could put him in a list of questionable signings.. how he's viewed has honestly made me question a huge swathe of people's footballs opinions at a base level.. its the most bat shit thing I've seen in the last decade of watching us

You think it's bat shit to question the Nunez signing? That's a bat shit take in itself.

[PaleBlueDot]

Broken record but please can we have a defensive midfielder. Love Endo but we do need a world class destroyer to break up play and protect the back 4. Any names?

Would agree but we have LCB, LWB, and an attacking replacement to go for as well. Wonder which boxes we'll decide to tick first this summer.

Would you give Bajetic a go there?

[Peabee]

Musiala showing some skirt from the sounds of it.

Delaney saying City are interested and are favourites. Also says Liverpool, Barcelona, Paris Saint-Germain are also interested but it states all have different budget constraints.

Liverpool and Barca have a budget. City and PSG have a "budget".

[killer-heels]

Liverpool and Barca have a budget. City and PSG have a "budget".

Id fucking love the guy here but Im torn on his ability for the future or what we need right now. Reckon he stays at Bayern. As long as he doesnt come to the PL.

[JackWard33]

You think it's bat shit to question the Nunez signing? That's a bat shit take in itself.

I mean it's all being argued in the Nunez thread .. but yeah it's the biggest disconnect between a players level and the perception of it I think I've seen in the recent history of our club - possibly any club

[Barefoot Doctor]

I'd be very Openda curious. Only 24 and has 21 goals for Leipzig in the Bundesliga (19 non-pen goals). Also had 21 goals in last season's Ligue 1 for Lens (20 NPG). And had two goalscoring seasons at Vitesse previously, 16 and 10 league goals.

That's good records in three different leagues, while still being young. That'd definitely have Edwards interested. Probably very expensive.

I can also see us being interested in Joao Pedro at Brighton. Again, expensive.

[Redley]

I'd be very Openda curious. Only 24 and has 21 goals for Leipzig in the Bundesliga (19 non-pen goals). Also had 21 goals in last season's Ligue 1 for Lens (20 NPG). And had two goalscoring seasons at Vitesse previously, 16 and 10 league goals.

That's good records in three different leagues, while still being young. That'd definitely have Edwards interested. Probably very expensive.

I can also see us being interested in Joao Pedro at Brighton. Again, expensive.

Oof thats another one to take to the Nunez thread!! G/A every 200 mins without his penalties.

Really not sure we're going to be signing a central striker. Our two youngest attackers are our central ones, we've then got a 31 year old RW and two 27 year old LWs. If we're looking at the attack I'd guess we'd maybe be looking at cashing in on Luis (if its true he doesn't want to sign a new contract) and then maybe sign a young RW and a young LW.

[killer-heels]

Nunez is one of the best signings we've made in the last 5 years - its just totally befuddling to me that anyone whose watched him and LFC could put him in a list of questionable signings.. how he's viewed has honestly made me question a huge swathe of people's footballs opinions at a base level.. its the most bat shit thing I've seen in the last decade of watching us

I think questionable is clumsy language. He is good and I am not selling him. Diaz is good as well. Gakpo is the only one who isnt good enough.

There is clearly a difference in the level you think he is at and what I think he is at. If Salah left I wouldnt be confident that Nunez steps up and we would be fine. Think there has to be more from him in terms of goals.

[killer-heels]

Oof thats another one to take to the Nunez thread!! G/A every 200 mins without his penalties.

Really not sure we're going to be signing a central striker. Our two youngest attackers are our central ones, we've then got a 31 year old RW and two 27 year old LWs. If we're looking at the attack I'd guess we'd maybe be looking at cashing in on Luis (if its true he doesn't want to sign a new contract) and then maybe sign a young RW and a young LW.

Id like us to sign a really proven attacker rather than ones who may be good in the future.

[Barefoot Doctor]

Id like us to sign a really proven attacker rather than ones who may be good in the future.

Curious what you mean by proven, Killer. I'd hope we sign an attacker with elite numbers in a big league ala Salah at Roma, but not sure he was regarded as proven when we got him.

[killer-heels]

Curious what you mean by proven, Killer. I'd hope we sign an attacker with elite numbers in a big league ala Salah at Roma, but not sure he was regarded as proven when we got him.

Salah for me was proven. 3 seasons in Italy, 2 for a Champions League club in that league with a 1 in 2 goal scoring record for that team. I have said numerous times that he was already, for me, an elite performer. If we were signing another wide player with anything close to that in a top league, I would be delighted.

[Redley]

Id like us to sign a really proven attacker rather than ones who may be good in the future.

I'd imagine it'll be the same sort of age group we usually sign (22-24) on the back of a good season or two but can improve at Liverpool (like Mo, Sadio, Bobby, Diogo, Diaz, Nunez etc).