Topic: Welcome to Liverpool, Fabio Carvalho

[farawayred]

Wouldn't it have shown itself at Fulham too?

Not saying this next part relating to you or your post but I feel like there's a thing in football that if it isn't working for someone in either multiple clubs or under multipile managers then it must be attitude related, i've lost count of the amount of players who have their attitude questioned but there's rarely ever any actual substance to back it up

I know, I and don't have anything to back it up; it's not even a statement. It's a thought that creeps in my head, maybe seeded in part by what was written when he moved on loan. Sometimes youngsters expect things to come to them too fast, but luck plays a lot of role at that age - a few injuries to seniors and a kid gets a chance that would come 2-3 years later (Trent, Quansah, Chambers now.) but luck is not guaranteed (unless your name is Tonya Harding).

[Redley]

He’s back

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/fabio-carvalho-returns-liverpool-rb-leipzig-loan

[Zlen]

Straight to another loan or we might see him play for us?

[cheesemason]

Having him around whilst Mo is away will be handy, and then probably another loan at end of month?

[Samie]

Might keep him till the summer but the lad has no future here. Kloppo doesn#t like his attitde it seems.

[classycarra]

oops, just replied in the transfer thread, but this is probably the spot

was always a very odd move, where it felt inevitable he'd not get much of a look in.

hope we can find him a good loan to get his career back on track, or even some minutes for us (i'd throw him in at Arsenal side is opposite to Gordon)

[So… Howard Philips]

Might keep him till the summer but the lad has no future here. Kloppo doesn#t like his attitde it seems.

But what’s his body language like?

[Samie]

I stand corrected. 

https://twitter.com/ptgorst/status/1741482592350724151

Liverpool confirm Fabio Carvalho has returned from his loan spell with RB Leipzig. Expected to go back out before the end of January with the club keen to get him more senior game-time.

[RyanBabel19]

Hope he can find some form if he is going back on loan. He’s a classy little player and i’d love to see him doing what Elliott is

[[new username under construction]]

Get him to Fulham

[gerrardisgod]

Was at the Forest game yesterday, supposedly mates with one of their lads. But wouldn’t shock me.

[gazzalfc]

I'd like to see him play for us in the cup matches before we loan him back out.

[Chris~]

I'd like to see him play for us in the cup matches before we loan him back out.

We wouldn't be able to loan him again unless it's back to Leipzig if we did that

[Mighty_Red]

We wouldn't be able to loan him again unless it's back to Leipzig if we did that

Is it a limit of 2 registrations per season? Think they should probably amend it for loans especially for U21 players. If a loan goes wrong (like in this case) the player has to either stay here for the rest of the season or go straight back out.

Would've been good to give him a couple of games in Jan to give him some minutes but that won't happen now.

[Phineus]

Get him to Fulham

Very good shout.

[newterp]

oops, just replied in the transfer thread, but this is probably the spot

was always a very odd move, where it felt inevitable he'd not get much of a look in.

hope we can find him a good loan to get his career back on track, or even some minutes for us (i'd throw him in at Arsenal side is opposite to Gordon)

I've said the same earlier (probably in this thread) - people forget that we had a deal agreed for him in January 2022 and were trying hard to get him in before the deadline. Then we made the deal permanent in the summer. So, it seems we did really want him.

He had a full preseason with us and even got a look-in early in the season. Obviously the winner against Saudi was his highlight of the year. The turning point was the league cup game (or was it FA cup?) against city where he couldn't do anything right - except scoring a goal. He was hooked at the half and then barely played the rest of the year...then loaned last summer.

I'm guessing there was an element of Moneyball here - cheap, highish ceiling, tore it up in the Championship, etc.

He wasn't that different than his pal Harvey Elliot. The difference seems to be that 1) Elliot got a chance in the U23s / reserves and had a great loan, and 2) Elliot's application and attitude have been the best.

I also think that once he got here - we saw a few flaws in person that weren't clear - strength and pace were lacking. But then again - with no midfield around him - he may have been asked to do a lot more than he was ready for.

I still think there is a good player there - I hope he succeeds - but it very likely won't be here.

[sminp]

Get him to Fulham

Some talk that he’s off to Leicester

[meady1981]

I was more excited about his YouTube reel than Darwin’s at the time. Thought he was going to be fantastic.

[Fordy]

I was more excited about his YouTube reel than Darwin’s at the time. Thought he was going to be fantastic.

Still can be.

[farawayred]

Still can be.

Dunno, the ship is about to leave port...

It seems that Carvalho is missing some critical qualities to succeed in the PL, none of which relate to his skill set. We'd know if he is suited to the PL game if he goes on loan to another PL side and earns his place in the team.

[BarryCrocker]

Get him to Fulham

To knock £15m off the asking price for Palhinha

[Dave McCoy]

Who hasn't this kid fallen out with yet? Seems to have a big personality issue.

[Yorkykopite]

His lack of minutes in the Bundesliga is a concern.

[[new username under construction]]

His lack of minutes in the Bundesliga is a concern.

It may have been one of those, I didn't ask for this player, the board are just doing Liverpool a favour?

[Kloppage Time]

could he have been brought back as a sweetener to land Antonee Robinson

[jillcwhomever]

Leicester City are looking at him apparently.

[Mighty_Red]

It may have been one of those, I didn't ask for this player, the board are just doing Liverpool a favour?

It was a strange one, Leipzig actually wanted a permanent transfer till they settled on a loan. Think there was a mangerial change but it does feel weired to want a player that much then not play him.

[Phineus]

Leicester City are looking at him apparently.

They don’t really need him, would be play much?

[classycarra]

Who hasn't this kid fallen out with yet? Seems to have a big personality issue.

haven't read anything that suggests he fell out with anyone in Germany?

was always a very odd loan for him, with it being very unlikely red bull would invest key time and patience in his development. their entire business model is to develop young red bull players along a pipeline in order to hone their talents then sell them for profit.

why would they significantly interrupt those plans to help out a player that's only going to be there 9 months? they wouldn't, and that's why he never played more than a bit part.

felt similar to when we loaned victor moses. there can't have been any illusions that the player was going to start much, it was just sending out a squad player who didn't fit to any willing party for deeper 'in case of emergency' squad fodder

[jillcwhomever]

They don’t really need him, would be play much?

No idea, don't know much about Leicester although they did get rid of a lot of their stars, so assume he'd at least stand a chance of some games.

[Rosario]

In hindsight he probably made the jump to a bigger club a season or two earlier than he should have. From a developmental perspective he would’ve been way better adjusting to PL standards with a team and club he was familiar with.

[spider-neil]

In hindsight he was better where he was and should have stayed at Fulham at least another couple of seasons.

[mullyred94]

In hindsight he probably made the jump to a bigger club a season or two earlier than he should have. From a developmental perspective he would’ve been way better adjusting to PL standards with a team and club he was familiar with.

It’s his attitude, him and Harvey are best mates but are totally opposites with attitude.

Only hope from him is too listen to Harvey on holidays in the off season hopefully after a successful loan.

[Coolie High]

It’s his attitude, him and Harvey are best mates but are totally opposites with attitude.

Only hope from him is too listen to Harvey on holidays in the off season hopefully after a successful loan.

What’s wrong with his attitude?

[xbugawugax]

Leicester doing good in the championship but that might be an issue as well. As the coach prefers the current batch of players that got them there and aren't keen on developing one.

Thought the redbull move was decent till they sign simmons which think plays in the same position and is better and further along in his progression. Even if the next move fails for him, i guess it wont be much of a major set back as he is still young. and different players mature at different rates. It does help though if he gets more game time to develop.

Hearing a lot about his attitude and hopefully that changes for the better. Maybe his application might be lacking as well. Elliot is a workhorse despite his tremendous potential which we all can see this season.

[disgraced cake]

Leicester would be a weird one IMO. Why change a winning team that look set to win the league relatively comfortable? I think he could end up being something of a squad piece there too. He's best going somewhere and playing every week even if the level isn't the Premier League, after his last 18 months barely playing he'll need some confidence back.

I know he probably isn't a Klopp player but I think we could keep him to be honest, the way the season's shaping up he could just be in and around there and pop up with something on a couple of occasions. He scored in two of our first five league matches last season so we know he can be a goal threat.

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

What is all this about his attitude? No one seems to have anything to back it up with...

[Rosario]

It’s his attitude, him and Harvey are best mates but are totally opposites with attitude.

Only hope from him is too listen to Harvey on holidays in the off season hopefully after a successful loan.

I don’t know anything about any perceived attitude problems so can’t comment on that. Just feels like moving to a big club that doesn’t play with a number 10 after being a key cog in Fulham gaining promotion was an ill timed move.

Hopefully for him he can find a decent loan move that suits him and his style of play then look for something more permanent.

[mullyred94]

What is all this about his attitude? No one seems to have anything to back it up with...

Didn’t see his instagram posts ?

[Eeyore]

I don’t know anything about any perceived attitude problems so can’t comment on that. Just feels like moving to a big club that doesn’t play with a number 10 after being a key cog in Fulham gaining promotion was an ill timed move.

Hopefully for him he can find a decent loan move that suits him and his style of play then look for something more permanent.

There have been a few things. He annoyed the Portuguese FA by informing them via text that he wouldn't be playing for the U21s.

Then after a modelling shoot he complained that modelling was all he got to do these days.

Then after Klopp went out of his way to praise him he claimed Klopp never speaks to him.