They constantly whinge about Heysel, like they were the only club that were affected by the ban after it, also forget what went on before that, were you had at least a decade of fans of other English clubs rampaging & fighting through other European cities, the European ban for English clubs was bound to happen sooner or later...
They forget that Liverpool were the club that suffered most from the ban, and Liverpool Football Club did nothing at all wrong. The club voiced concerns about the crumbling stadium long before the final took place. UEFA, in their infinite wisdom, dismissed all concerns, just like they always do.
Bitters forget the appalling role large sections of the Juventus support played that night too.
They also conveniently forget that English football fans were the pariahs of Europe in the 70s and 80s. The national team was followed by thousands of self confessed thugs who prided themselves on the carnage they caused. At home, Man United fans were destroying small towns as they descended on them like violent, pillaging locusts in their Bay City Rollers outfits. Most clubs had pretty vicious hooligan groups and no one was safe at games.
Go to any big book store and you'll see book after book written by ageing thugs reminiscing with pride over their violent thuggery at football matches up and down the country.
They forget that to this day in the hooligan fraternity Liverpool are said to not even have a firm, whilst Everton are lauded for their viciousness. They are forever bragging over their thuggery at Millwall recently, for instance.
They forget that Thatcher hated the working class and she hated their sport of choice. She despised England following thugs who shamed the country and she vowed to smash them and their ilk. Heysel was grotesque, but it was not an isolated incident. Man United 'fans' had already killed two Middlesbrough fans and a Palace fan. Everton had already carved up Jobe Henry and ended his boxing career. Fans of pretty much every club had, at some time or place, given their rivals a hiding in or around grounds, city centres or service stations.
The ban in 1985 came as a result of Heysel being the final straw. If it wasn't Heysel it would have been something else not long afterwards. Thatcher wanted to take the game down a peg. The working class who followed it down a peg too. That's what the ban was all about. If it was a Liverpool problem only Liverpool would have been banned. Facts are, everyone who went on marauding around at home and abroad back then have blood on their hands. They also blood on their hands over Hillsborough too, because if it wasn't for those people, ordinary football fans would never have been herded like cattle into pens with fences around with no escape.
I don't expect Bitters to comprehend the reality of the situation. I don't expect them to have perspective and honesty anymore. They'll just go with whatever fits their tragically pathetic agenda. You simply cannot help some people.
The truth is there. The bigger picture is there. But many choose or refuse to see it.
All you clowns writing books glorying in your 70s and 80s hooligan exploits, you all played a part. You are all part of the reason why English clubs were banned. Simply put, you couldn't behave in a civilised manner and it eventually caught up with us all. You all brag about your thuggery and how great your firm was, then wash your hands of any responsibility when the inevitable eventually happens.
Everton? Well I still see many of them online bragging about their 'firm' and how 'evil' it is. Dinosaurs stuck in a previous century. Funny how the very same people then go on about Heysel and how we are supposed to be violent thugs though, then in another breath slag us off saying we haven't got a firm and are actually just tourists at a theme park.
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For the record. I don't think Everton should have been banned from Europe. Liverpool shouldn't have been either, nor any other club. English
fans should have been banned, not the clubs. The clubs were not at fault. Oh, Juventus fans should also have been banned from Europe for at least a season for their disgraceful behaviour at Heysel.
