Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[Crosby Nick]

Commuter traffic this morning hasn't dropped off at all this morning. Pretty much identical to the past few weeks and months

Thinking about it school run traffic must account for a lot the usual early morning rush hour?

[gazzalfc]

Thinking about it school run traffic must account for a lot the usual early morning rush hour?

I tend to get earlier buses/trains to avoid that and so mostly get the NHS, builders and early office workers. So no surprise they are still working.

Trains are back to a 30 min service so maybe the reduced number of trains is just compressing the same number of people on less trains. Least everyone is pretty much wearing masks now

[Jshooters]

Thinking about it school run traffic must account for a lot the usual early morning rush hour?

Yep.  A truer test would be whether rush hour motorway traffic has changed in any way

[Red-Soldier]

Thinking about it school run traffic must account for a lot the usual early morning rush hour?

Peak traffic (and air pollution) counts are indeed during the school run.

Parents are killing the very same children their commuting to school.

[12C]

Anyone manage to watch the press conference beyond the Party Political Propaganda speech at the beginning.
I got as far as Tigger telling us we can have Christmas together but if we don’t it will be our own fault.
Not the failure of Serco T&T, or the “Eat Out”  or the “Go back to work or be Sacked” initiatives.
Scum

[Commie Bobbie]

Got to say down here in Deepest Kent, it felt like an normal day.

Went for my daily walk just after 2.30pm, nothing different.

Compared to the first lockdown, when genuinely I was worried I would get caught by the police for just being outside - there is none of that urgency - when arguably we're in a much worse situation than then.

[Lee1-6Liv]

There are a lot more places open compared to first lockdown, fast food outlets like McNasty's etc, opticans, pc world and argos open for click and collect, even walked past primark and there were people inside working.

[gazzalfc]

Here are the details of the mass testing

https://liverpoolexpress.co.uk/whole-city-testing-under-way-in-liverpool/

From 9am tomorrow, the first six test centres will open their doors and will be open until 7pm. These are:

Lifestyles Alsop Fitness Centre, 1 Walton Village, L4 6RW
Lifestyles Walton, Walton Hall Park, L4 9XP
Lifestyles Ellergreen, Ellergreen Road, L11 2XY
Lifestyles Park Road, Steble Street, L8 6QH
Liverpool Tennis Centre, Wellington Road, L15 4LE
Lifestyles Garston, Long Lane, L19 6PE

These six centres should only be attended by people who are not displaying symptoms.

For the first day, all the centres will accommodate walk-ins. Testing slots can also be booked via www.gov.uk/testliverpool – that will be operational later this evening – or using the NHS Covid-19 App. People are advised there may be queues at these locations.

[gazzalfc]

I'll probably wander down tomorrow as I'm working from home. Want to do my part

[TepidT2O]

Nearly 60000 thousand cases in France today.... a positivity rate of 20% indicates that they are getting nowhere near all of them either....

[[new username under construction]]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/11/5/astrazeneca-chief-says-covid-vaccine-on-track-for-year-end

[Gerry Attrick]

Nearly 60000 thousand cases in France today.... a positivity rate of 20% indicates that they are getting nowhere near all of them either....

That's a lot.

[djahern]

Nearly 60000 thousand cases in France today.... a positivity rate of 20% indicates that they are getting nowhere near all of them either....

A lot of Europe gone into a phase of rapid expansion over the last week or so. UK does seem to have got passed that phase already and hopefully it continues.

It’s interesting to keep an eye on Ireland’s rates, they went into lockdown on October 21st and it’s taken 2 weeks for the infection rate to halve. And Ireland also had slowed considerably (maybe even plateaued) before the lockdown. That’s how long it takes. I’m optimistic still that the UK will follow Ireland’s pattern due to tier 3 restrictions prior to this lockdown, but for France, Italy, Germany, and others infection rates are still climbing significantly.

No update yet today, hopefully we see a clear stabilisation compared to last week.

[TepidT2O]

A lot of Europe gone into a phase of rapid expansion over the last week or so. UK does seem to have got passed that phase already and hopefully it continues.

It’s interesting to keep an eye on Ireland’s rates, they went into lockdown on October 21st and it’s taken 2 weeks for the infection rate to halve. And Ireland also had slowed considerably (maybe even plateaued) before the lockdown. That’s how long it takes. I’m optimistic still that the UK will follow Ireland’s pattern due to tier 3 restrictions prior to this lockdown, but for France, Italy, Germany, and others infection rates are still climbing significantly.

No update yet today, hopefully we see a clear stabilisation compared to last week.

No update makes me think somethings gone very wrong again....

How difficult can it be?!

[Millie]

Son's just come home after cleaning the pub he works in, and sorting (finishing) all the beer etc.  Handed me a load of free food.   

[UntouchableLuis]

Here are the details of the mass testing

https://liverpoolexpress.co.uk/whole-city-testing-under-way-in-liverpool/

From 9am tomorrow, the first six test centres will open their doors and will be open until 7pm. These are:

Lifestyles Alsop Fitness Centre, 1 Walton Village, L4 6RW
Lifestyles Walton, Walton Hall Park, L4 9XP
Lifestyles Ellergreen, Ellergreen Road, L11 2XY
Lifestyles Park Road, Steble Street, L8 6QH
Liverpool Tennis Centre, Wellington Road, L15 4LE
Lifestyles Garston, Long Lane, L19 6PE

These six centres should only be attended by people who are not displaying symptoms.

For the first day, all the centres will accommodate walk-ins. Testing slots can also be booked via www.gov.uk/testliverpool – that will be operational later this evening – or using the NHS Covid-19 App. People are advised there may be queues at these locations.

Any idea when the other testing centres will open? I think Hope uni is doing one which is right by me so will definitely get tested when that opens.

[djahern]

Supposed to be midday tomorrow and then 7am to 7pm by the sounds of it

Edit, that’s not what you asked. Don’t know - the gov.uk page doesn’t seem to be working.

[UntouchableLuis]

Supposed to be midday tomorrow and then 7am to 7pm by the sounds of it

Edit, that’s not what you asked. Don’t know - the gov.uk page doesn’t seem to be working.

What I mean is it says only those 6 will be open for people without symptoms. When will the other testing centres be announced?

[kavah]

Son's just come home after cleaning the pub he works in, and sorting (finishing) all the beer etc.  Handed me a load of free food.   

Ha ha nice one

[filopastry]

Today's UK numbers

24,141 Cases

378 Deaths


Cases by sample date



Deaths by day

[dirkster]

Today's UK numbers

24,141 Cases

378 Deaths

I could've sworn Johnson said it was 492 deaths at the presser earlier?

[filopastry]

I could've sworn Johnson said it was 492 deaths at the presser earlier?

I think that was yesterday's reported number

[TepidT2O]

We’re up to 29000 testing positive yesterday..

That means it’s probably not peaked...  which is not good.

[dirkster]

I think that was yesterday's reported number

Ah ok mate, thanks for clearing that up

[west_london_red]

FFS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54833459

Will this shit ever end?

[jonnypb]

FFS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54833459

Will this shit ever end?

I know, but I don't think anyone will be shocked if the virus does mutate like many other viruses do.

[west_london_red]

I know, but I don't think anyone will be shocked if the virus does mutate like many other viruses do.

It was more the fact that mutated virus seems to reduce the bodies ability to make antibodies that I find scary.

[Black Bull Nova]

Better off being a bull am I right?

I'm not sure Bulls herd?

[Black Bull Nova]

It's really important to understand that click bait journalism didn't stop when the pandemic hit. It wen't into overdrive. Any comment, any loose conclusions from a single published paper and any speculations by whatever guy calls himself a mathematical modeler has been used to create divisive, sensational and stirring articles.

Almost everything you have read is short sighted and latches on to the flavor of the month agenda to get more views/hits clicks. The perception of what has happened in Sweden has been used as a bat by everyone from those who argue for total lock down to those who argues total opening.

They never mention that people over a certain weight and a certain age were denied treatment and that (last time I looked) whilst 'only 'c6,000 died;

a) Their experience was primarily confined to Stockholm
b) 6k is about 42k in the UK because there are only 10m in Sweden
c) At that moment only about 280 had died in Norway (half Sweden's population), about the same in Denmark

[Komic]

Yep.  A truer test would be whether rush hour motorway traffic has changed in any way

M57 just as busy as normal yesterday and today on the way into work. It was quieter on the way home though. So seems like recreational traffic has dropped but most people who have worked the last months are still doing so.

[redbyrdz]

It was more the fact that mutated virus seems to reduce the bodies ability to make antibodies that I find scary.

It won't do that. Antibodies will be produced against this virus too. But I think the mutation they have found must be in the spike protein. Since nearly every vaccine in development targets the spike protein, this is bad news for the current vaccine development. The vaccines (especially the new type highly engineered ones) basically try to make antibodies that match the shape of the spike protein - if that shape changes, the antibodies won't match as well anymore. But immunity developed against this new shape of spike protein will just be as effective as before.

[[new username under construction]]

From Reddit but still....(In relation to Denmark mutation)

Imagine the spike like the claw inside one of them stuffed animal machines. The spike "tip" can open up like said claw to dock to ACE2. Stabilized pre-fusion means that the spike can not open that "claw part", thus the spike that the vaccine produces can not dock, but is recognized by the body as an antigen. This has the bonus of the body recognizing the spike epitopes before the protein has "opened up" to dock to ACE2, the actual viral protein from a possible challenge lateron will be recognized no matter how the inside of the claw, the part where it all comes together, looks.

I believe most of the RNA candidates as well as oxford use full-length stabilized pre fusion spikes, as well as most others. The only candidates I have specifically heard not utilizing that where chinese inactivated ones, but that was down to how it was inactivated (Killing the virus opened up the claw on some proteins).

Using that method has serveral advantages, it prioritizes more stable epitopes, enables more epitopes to be recognized, if I did my homework right.

[ScandinavianPete]

They never mention that people over a certain weight and a certain age were denied treatment and that (last time I looked) whilst 'only 'c6,000 died;

a) Their experience was primarily confined to Stockholm
b) 6k is about 42k in the UK because there are only 10m in Sweden
c) At that moment only about 280 had died in Norway (half Sweden's population), about the same in Denmark

All I wanted to point out is that when real unbiased information was needed the most our journalists failed us the most. The articles you read are not written to convey real information or discuss long term solutions. They are written to gain a reaction.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

FFS

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54833459

Will this shit ever end?

Could we not cull humans instead and isolate the mink?

[CraigDS]

Could we not cull humans instead and isolate the mink?

I’d love a nice Danish skin coat to be honest.

[wampa1]

Could we not cull humans instead and isolate the mink?

Hopefully we can bin off mink farms off the back of this.

[lamad]

Hopefully we can bin off mink farms off the back of this.

Absolute fucking time to bin them. In the year 2020 we have millions of minks in farms in Europe in order to make fur to sell to Asia (seems this is the main market). Disgusting. I am also tempting to favour culling humans instead of minks. Would surely be better for the planet if the human race just sodded off entirely.

[Zeb]

Looking at the pics of queues this morning going through my social media, impressive response from people in Liverpool to the walk-in centres opening. Really hope that it works to bring cases down much quicker than otherwise.

[didi shamone]

A lot of Europe gone into a phase of rapid expansion over the last week or so. UK does seem to have got passed that phase already and hopefully it continues.

It’s interesting to keep an eye on Ireland’s rates, they went into lockdown on October 21st and it’s taken 2 weeks for the infection rate to halve. And Ireland also had slowed considerably (maybe even plateaued) before the lockdown. That’s how long it takes. I’m optimistic still that the UK will follow Ireland’s pattern due to tier 3 restrictions prior to this lockdown, but for France, Italy, Germany, and others infection rates are still climbing significantly.

No update yet today, hopefully we see a clear stabilisation compared to last week.

Indoor pubs and restaurants have been closed here over a month now its worth pointing out. It appears they're a real driver of the virus much as that pains me.
 Even the head of the HSE stated that our level three restrictions led to cases dropping after about three weeks. Level 5 is probably only kicking in now. I think it'll take three weeks for the UK to see much change. Hopefully quicker in Liverpool with the mass testing.

[filopastry]

Today's UK numbers.

23,287 cases
355 deaths

Cases by sample date



Deaths by date