Topic: Harry Maguire considering his options thread

[Clint Eastwood]

I’m bored to death of both Messi and Ronaldo, and I’m looking forward to their era coming to an end. Unfortunately, I can see them both hanging around for a while.

[Hazell]

Cristiano Ronaldo

Is that real? That doesn't sound like him at him at all.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I’m bored to death of both Messi and Ronaldo, and I’m looking forward to their era coming to an end. Unfortunately, I can see them both hanging around for a while.

Two complete wankers, Messi for his Sportswashing efforts and tax evading, and the fucking preening showpony for just being himself, oh, and not taking no for an answer.

[MdArshad]

Two complete wankers, Messi for his Sportswashing efforts and tax evading, and the fucking preening showpony for just being himself, oh, and not taking no for an answer.

True. Nobody other than their fanboys will care when this two retire.

Nowhere near as class as Nadal/Federer.

[Jack_Bauer]

We beat their legends too. Finished club.

And have you seen some of the "legends" in our squad as well.

[Tokyoite]

I’m bored to death of both Messi and Ronaldo, and I’m looking forward to their era coming to an end. Unfortunately, I can see them both hanging around for a while.

You are in for a shock if you think their fans will stop the Messi vs Ronaldo debate after they both retire. If anything it might get worse lol

[Nitramdorf]

Swiss ramble has done his latest thread about these lot

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1574282542508810240?t=zT8tJqk_I65ZYjbUTOh1cA&s=19

The 24million mentioned before about mangers payouts is 10m for Ole and 14m for Ralph. 

The trouble with reading these threads for me is it always highlights the utter bullshit of Abu Dhabi.

[MonsLibpool]

And have you seen some of the "legends" in our squad as well.

Yes 

[MonsLibpool]

Swiss ramble has done his latest thread about these lot

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1574282542508810240?t=zT8tJqk_I65ZYjbUTOh1cA&s=19

The 24million mentioned before about mangers payouts is 10m for Ole and 14m for Ralph. 

The trouble with reading these threads for me is it always highlights the utter bullshit of Abu Dhabi.

They are spending themselves to oblivion. Everyone knows Abu Dhabi are full of shit. They can't even fill their stadium.

[MonsLibpool]

https://youtu.be/y891vQ6shRQ

[4pool]

https://youtu.be/y891vQ6shRQ

That went well. Brilliant analysis.

[RedSince86]

That went well. Brilliant analysis.

There is another video on Dutch TV where hVDV says Maguire is fucking shit.

[Solomon Grundy]

https://youtu.be/y891vQ6shRQ

"Good technically"

"Brings the ball out well from defence"

"For a big guy he's quick"


How has Redknapp managed to hold down a job as a punit for so many years?

[klopptopia]

I once heard Jamie Carragher say he was the best player in the PL in bringing the ball out from the back not long after he joined Utd. He’s as clueless as Maguire is useless

[Mighty_Red]

That went well. Brilliant analysis.

"He can play" needs to become a meme, I can only assume Jamie mixed him up with some other player. He's only quick compared to a reversing dustbin van with the same turning circle.

[Terry de Niro]

"Good technically"

"Brings the ball out well from defence"

"For a big guy he's quick"


How has Redknapp managed to hold down a job as a punit for so many years?

Proper gobshite just like his arl man.

[4pool]

TBF... many were parroting similar when Slab Head was signed.

What i'd love is for those who made those comments to be asked what do they think of their analysis. 

[Hazell]

"Good technically"

"Brings the ball out well from defence"

"For a big guy he's quick"


How has Redknapp managed to hold down a job as a punit for so many years?

For me he peaked when he said Alonso was phenomenal when we won at Old Trafford in 2009. It's all been downhill since then.

[Skeeve]

"Good technically"

"Brings the ball out well from defence"

"For a big guy he's quick"


How has Redknapp managed to hold down a job as a punit for so many years?

He's a former footballer, as long as they don't say anything too racist or sexist they get to stay on the punditry gravy train as long as they like.

[thaddeus]

"For a big guy he's quick" has got to be most outdated compliment going, maybe only comparable to "for a goalkeeper he's good with his feet".

The 100m world record is held by a 6ft 5ins man.  The Premier League and world football in general have been stocked with tall and fast players for a long time.  Rudiger and Konate clocked two of the four fastest speeds in the Premier League last season.

Amusingly though Maguire is a big guy who's not quick.  He's only quick if the benchmark is Neil Ruddock.

[So… Howard Philips]

He's a former footballer, as long as they don't say anything too racist or sexist they get to stay on the punditry gravy train as long as they like.

Like Jenas he’s a presentable young(ish) man who a girl could take home to meet her parents as he’d be smartly dressed, polite and great at small talk.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

That Swiss Ramble analysis is a sobering read for them. The financial power they had over the rest of the league is no longer and as a Plc they won't be able to carry on spending like they have done indefinitely. Share price is down at $12 too from a peak of over $25.

[Skeeve]

That Swiss Ramble analysis is a sobering read for them. The financial power they had over the rest of the league is no longer and as a Plc they won't be able to carry on spending like they have done indefinitely. Share price is down at $12 too from a peak of over $25.

Explains why their cheerleader on Sky has been begging for any passing despot to come and take them over.

[Hazell]

Explains why their cheerleader on Sky has been begging for any passing despot to come and take them over.

Seems to have been doing rounds doing PR for the World Cup this week as well.

[Simplexity]

It is quite incredible how they could have been the Bayern of the PL but they pissed their family silver up the wall. Incredible stuff.

[GreatEx]

Anyone subject themselves to GNeville's guest appearance on the guardian football weekly show? I'm about 15 minutes in and he's just declared that Blackburn, Chelsea and Manchester City were good for the league because they prevented a Bayern Munich situation. Hates American investment groups because they expect a return, loves owners who will plow their own money into the team to buy trophies but otherwise not try to change the status quo. He'd earlier said "and nation states" during his first anti-American rant in a flimsy attempt at even-handedness, but everything since has been apologia for sportswashers. I'll listen to the rest like I slow down for car crashes.

[Jack_Bauer]

Seems to have been doing rounds doing PR for the World Cup this week as well.

Do we reckon he's getting as much as his best mate David

[Jack_Bauer]

Anyone subject themselves to GNeville's guest appearance on the guardian football weekly show? I'm about 15 minutes in and he's just declared that Blackburn, Chelsea and Manchester City were good for the league because they prevented a Bayern Munich situation. Hates American investment groups because they expect a return, loves owners who will plow their own money into the team to buy trophies but otherwise not try to change the status quo. He'd earlier said "and nation states" during his first anti-American rant in a flimsy attempt at even-handedness, but everything since has been apologia for sportswashers. I'll listen to the rest like I slow down for car crashes.

That all sounds like a load of shite and he's full of it.

To say Chelsea and City were/are good for the league is a fucking joke if there ever was, And to say that this will prevent a Bayern-esque monopoly is daft as well given we are headed to essentially a duopoly between City and Newcastle in a few years so Good Job Gary.

We all know his dislike for American owners is because the ones that own United he doesn't like and he's desperate for some shitty sportswashers to come in and save them by writing a blank cheque every year.

Honestly Gary just fuck off already.

[lionel_messias]

That all sounds like a load of shite and he's full of it.

To say Chelsea and City were/are good for the league is a fucking joke if there ever was, And to say that this will prevent a Bayern-esque monopoly is daft as well given we are headed to essentially a duopoly between City and Newcastle in a few years so Good Job Gary.

We all know his dislike for American owners is because the ones that own United he doesn't like and he's desperate for some shitty sportswashers to come in and save them by writing a blank cheque every year.

Honestly Gary just fuck off already.

Without Klopp's Liverpool the last 5 years are basically Bayern Munich in Sky Blue, only the Germans generate the actual revenues they need to buy their players.
Gary is fucking sinking himself in his own irony there.

He dislikes leveraged ownership, okay fair enough but his other actual beef is with 'shit, leveraged ownership'. The Glazers don't appoint good football people to run the operation or a half competent DoF, which means they splaff millions on the wrong managers and players, and then have to splash out even more to correct the sins of last week. Cycle repeat. Laugh our heads off.

[Tobelius]

Che Neville needs to be appointed DoF there ASAP to put his genius to work.

[redgriffin73]

Starting to see people spouting similar stuff as this recently as well, just repeating what idiots like Neville say on TV, American owners are bad for the game because they want to run it like a business, blah blah blah. Not helped by Boehly and his weird ideas lately but still. How can any sane person say oil clubs are better for the game.

[El Lobo]

Starting to see people spouting similar stuff as this recently as well, just repeating what idiots like Neville say on TV, American owners are bad for the game because they want to run it like a business, blah blah blah. Not helped by Boehly and his weird ideas lately but still. How can any sane person say oil clubs are better for the game.

Because humans are inherently selfish. I dare say if a consortium headed up by Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump pledged to invest £2 billion in players and build them a new £1.5 billion stadium Che Neville would be all for it, for reasons.

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Because humans are inherently selfish. I dare say if a consortium headed up by Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump pledged to invest £2 billion in players and build them a new £1.5 billion stadium Che Neville would be all for it, for reasons.

He is remarkably one-eyed on the topic of his club, as many are. And a bore as a pundit these days, always pushing his United agendas. But I am often impressed by his stance on social and economic matters. He's ripped a few past and present right-wing politicians and commentators to shreds in interviews. It's a pity he doesn't join the dots so well when it comes to football...

[Jack_Bauer]

Starting to see people spouting similar stuff as this recently as well, just repeating what idiots like Neville say on TV, American owners are bad for the game because they want to run it like a business, blah blah blah. Not helped by Boehly and his weird ideas lately but still. How can any sane person say oil clubs are better for the game.

Yeah, Boehly spouting dumb shit like an all-star game and god knows whatever else he wants to bring over from U.S. sports. Sadly there are a lot of fanbases that would gladly take a sports washing owner if it means they will splash the cash with no issue and the team can "win" trophies on the regular. Look at the Geordies they are buying it hook, line and sinker with the Saudis despite the well document human rights issues and everything else.

[Jack_Bauer]

He is remarkably one-eyed on the topic of his club, as many are. And a bore as a pundit these days, always pushing his United agendas. But I am often impressed by his stance on social and economic matters. He's ripped a few past and present right-wing politicians and commentators to shreds in interviews. It's a pity he doesn't join the dots so well when it comes to football...

Speaking of the political leanings I got a recommended video on YouTube this morning of him talking about Liz Truss. I'd say he aligns with most on here with his political views.

[bird_lfc]

Bemused that Sir Marcus Rashford has bagged the player of the month award I’ll admit.

[Ghost Town]

The same would happen here, with LFC fans, if a regime or sportswashwers bought us up and we started winning almost every game and brought the 'marquee' and 'statement' signings that people want, and assuaged the transfer addiction, and won the 56 trophies per season that the whingers and cryarsers demand.

Oh I know we all say we won't, that we'd fuck football off for good if that happened, and I'm sure some would, and that initially there'd be protests and direct action, walkouts, refusal to attend etc. We have previous in reacting well, and a pretty decent record of integrity as a fanbase. But for every one fan who would genuinely object and turn away from the club there'll be ten that won't and twenty new fans who'll come along, and before we know it it'd be business as usual and fans supporting the owners for the glory they bring.

Human beings are mostly similar in action, reaction and behaviour when looked-upon as a group.
 

[Son of Spion]

The same would happen here, with LFC fans, if a regime or sportswashwers bought us up and we started winning almost every game and brought the 'marquee' and 'statement' signings that people want, and assuaged the transfer addiction, and won the 56 trophies per season that the whingers and cryarsers demand.

Oh I know we all say we won't, that we'd fuck football off for good if that happened, and I'm sure some would, and that initially there'd be protests and direct action, walkouts, refusal to attend etc. We have previous in reacting well, and a pretty decent record of integrity as a fanbase. But for every one fan who would genuinely object and turn away from the club there'll be ten that won't and twenty new fans who'll come along, and before we know it it'd be business as usual and fans supporting the owners for the glory they bring.

Human beings are mostly similar in action, reaction and behaviour when looked-upon as a group.

This is sportswashing in action.

Offer the desperate shiny things they've been unable to achieve previously. Be aware of the psychology of human beings. Understand that, for so many, high reward will trump moral principle. Be quite happy to see the old guard drift away and become replaced by an army of brainless useful idiots who are happy to sacrifice morals for that high return in the shape of bought trophies and bragging rights.

It's like how the far-right appeal to the disaffected. It's cynical, but it's a tried and tested approach when looking to enlist an army of useful idiots to do your bidding.

In short, the sportswashers don't care if the more principled old guard slip away in disgust. In fact, they are counting on it.

[Jack_Bauer]

This is sportswashing in action.

Offer the desperate shiny things they've been unable to achieve previously. Be aware of the psychology of human beings. Understand that, for so many, high reward will trump moral principle. Be quite happy to see the old guard drift away and become replaced by an army of brainless useful idiots who are happy to sacrifice morals for that high return in the shape of bought trophies and bragging rights.

It's like how the far-right appeal to the disaffected. It's cynical, but it's a tried and tested approach when looking to enlist an army of useful idiots to do your bidding.

In short, the sportswashers don't care if the more principled old guard slip away in disgust. In fact, they are counting on it.

Honestly, There would be portions of our fanbase who would gladly accept sports washing owners and everything that comes with it. I'd say it would be more casual/fair weather types or the bandwagoners who are only fans because of the success under Klopp. That lot would eat up the sports wash.

[Lusty]

Honestly, There would be portions of our fanbase who would gladly accept sports washing owners and everything that comes with it. I'd say it would be more casual/fair weather types or the bandwagoners who are only fans because of the success under Klopp. That lot would eat up the sports wash.

It would be different now I think. Back in the day if we'd been bought by DIC or China or whatever then I think our fan base would have eaten it up. Me included probably. There but for the grace of God...

Us being rivals to City has changed that a little bit now though. Our club now stands as basically the only opposition to the sportswashing clubs and I can't see us accepting it if the club tried to join them.