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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12320 on: January 18, 2021, 11:27:33 AM »
The worst start to a league campaign in Pep’s career. We had the chance to put our foot on their throat early this season, and didn’t.


I dunno, I suppose injuries to the best defender in the world, his CB partner, our goalkeeper and one of the best new signings we've made amongst quite a few others might have had something to do with it.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12321 on: January 18, 2021, 11:35:08 AM »
They were always going to be our only competitors for the title and our recent drop in form has put them in the driving seat. Still plenty of time to catch up.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12322 on: January 18, 2021, 11:39:03 AM »

I dunno, I suppose injuries to the best defender in the world, his CB partner, our goalkeeper and one of the best new signings we've made amongst quite a few others might have had something to do with it.

Just a thought.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12323 on: January 18, 2021, 11:47:45 AM »
We need Virgil Van Dijk to beat Brighton? Fulham? West Brom? Newcastle?

Last year we beat Brighton 2-1 with Virgil scoring both. So sometimes, yes. :D

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12324 on: January 18, 2021, 11:52:06 AM »
Last year we beat Brighton 2-1 with Virgil scoring both. So sometimes, yes. :D

Well to be fair the way the front lads have been this season from open play losing Van Dijk for set pieces probably has hurt us  ;D
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12325 on: January 18, 2021, 11:54:50 AM »
Well to be fair the way the front lads have been this season from open play losing Van Dijk for set pieces probably has hurt us  ;D

I see you deleted your post above.

We've still scored more goals than any other team in the league.

We're not even up to the halfway point in the league, City have to come to Anfield and we will hopefully see some key players return to full fitness for the run in.

Write us off at your peril.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12326 on: January 18, 2021, 12:05:28 PM »
I see you deleted your post above.

We've still scored more goals than any other team in the league.

We're not even up to the halfway point in the league, City have to come to Anfield and we will hopefully see some key players return to full fitness for the run in.

Write us off at your peril.

I did. I edited it and went even stronger on how the excuse that missing Van Dijk means dropping points to shite like Brighton, Fulham etc is a weak one, especially as he was there, along wit Gomez and with Jota when we got embarrassed by Villa. But after editing it I saw someone had already quoted the previous one so just deleted it.

Also I haven't written us off. Daring to criticise anything seems to be classed as writing the club off for some weird reason. I simply said after the start that City had to the league, we should have ran away from them. Even with the injuries I stick to that. We shouldnt need Van Dijk to be getting more than 2 points a game in this league. Virgil should be the difference in us getting 97-99 points rather than 90. He shouldn't be the difference betwee 99 points and 70.

Everton have won more games than us this season, having played less game. Fucking Everton. Regardless of who we have missing, we should still have done better because we still go in to every single game with at least 5 world class players and being better man for man than anyone we face in AT LEAST 8 or 9 positions if not still 10 or all 11.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12327 on: January 18, 2021, 12:06:19 PM »
Well to be fair the way the front lads have been this season from open play losing Van Dijk for set pieces probably has hurt us  ;D

It absolutely has, in tight games. He’s good for what, probably 5 or 6 League goals a season. Given we don’t tend to concede more than one very often that’s a few more points he would definitely have earned us. We barely put a corner in the box these days.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12328 on: January 18, 2021, 02:25:15 PM »
I did. I edited it and went even stronger on how the excuse that missing Van Dijk means dropping points to shite like Brighton, Fulham etc is a weak one, especially as he was there, along wit Gomez and with Jota when we got embarrassed by Villa. But after editing it I saw someone had already quoted the previous one so just deleted it.

Also I haven't written us off. Daring to criticise anything seems to be classed as writing the club off for some weird reason. I simply said after the start that City had to the league, we should have ran away from them. Even with the injuries I stick to that. We shouldnt need Van Dijk to be getting more than 2 points a game in this league. Virgil should be the difference in us getting 97-99 points rather than 90. He shouldn't be the difference betwee 99 points and 70.

Everton have won more games than us this season, having played less game. Fucking Everton. Regardless of who we have missing, we should still have done better because we still go in to every single game with at least 5 world class players and being better man for man than anyone we face in AT LEAST 8 or 9 positions if not still 10 or all 11.

So you expect us to win every game then? Even without our best players available because we have other good players?

City dropped points v Leicester home, Leeds away, West Ham away, drew 0-0 in their away derby, and drew at home to West Brom. And they have a bigger squad than ours and signed more players in the last window.

They have managed to get into the position they're in by taking 15/15 pts available since West Brom whereas we've dropped points unexpectedly to some lesser sides.

It's all fine margins. We need to go on a run where we take as close to max points as possible over the next 5-10 games, if we do we'll be right back in contention (as we are now) to defend our title and hopefully within that period we might see a key player like Jota return to the squad and become available. I don't share your pessimism.


« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 02:28:34 PM by Phil M »
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12329 on: January 18, 2021, 02:48:13 PM »
So you expect us to win every game then?

I expect us to win more than half our games yeah. Which is what we have done so far this season. We have the 5th highest wage bill in the world and regardless of injuries we still walk out there every week with 5 world class players at least. So yeah, that should be enough to beat at least one of Brighton, Newcastle, Southampton, Aston Villa, West Brom or Fulham.

I'm expecting us to still finish at lowest 3rd. But yeah, that's not good enough. You think Barca, Madrid, Juventus, Bayern etc are happy with that? No. So why should we be? I don't want 1 title in 30 years. I want my club back where it used to be. It's the biggest club in the country.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12330 on: January 18, 2021, 02:53:33 PM »
I expect us to win more than half our games yeah. Which is what we have done so far this season. We have the 5th highest wage bill in the world and regardless of injuries we still walk out there every week with 5 world class players at least. So yeah, that should be enough to beat at least one of Brighton, Newcastle, Southampton, Aston Villa, West Brom or Fulham.

I'm expecting us to still finish at lowest 3rd. But yeah, that's not good enough. You think Barca, Madrid, Juventus, Bayern etc are happy with that? No. So why should we be? I don't want 1 title in 30 years. I want my club back where it used to be. It's the biggest club in the country.

So what makes you think we won't recruit again and get back on top, even if we finish third this season? We are not entitled to a league every season and it doesn't mean that if you don't win it this, you cant next season.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12331 on: January 18, 2021, 02:56:57 PM »
So what makes you think we won't recruit again and get back on top, even if we finish third this season? We are not entitled to a league every season and it doesn't mean that if you don't win it this, you cant next season.

I think we will win the league next season even if we literally sign nobody. Doesn't mean I'm happy to win nothing this season.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12332 on: January 18, 2021, 03:41:07 PM »
I see he's just being given another £200m to spend in the summer. The bloke's a genius. I mean he's only spent half a billion on defenders to finally find a decent one in Dias.


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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12333 on: January 18, 2021, 03:55:57 PM »
I expect us to win more than half our games yeah. Which is what we have done so far this season. We have the 5th highest wage bill in the world and regardless of injuries we still walk out there every week with 5 world class players at least. So yeah, that should be enough to beat at least one of Brighton, Newcastle, Southampton, Aston Villa, West Brom or Fulham.

So what's the issue then? We're all gutted when we drop points to teams we should be putting away. This is the Manchester City thread.
You said "we had the chance to put our foot on their throat early" - we essentially did, as we opened up a gap when they dropped points to the exact same calibre of team that you say we should be beating week in week out, it's only this week, into mid January they have managed to catch us.

If you had a crystal ball and were told that we'd have lost Virgil, Gomez, Jota, Matip, Alisson and Trent for a bit, have Keita and Shaq in and out etc and have to deploy 2 of the title winning best midfielders in the world to centre half, would you not have taken our current position -3 points off the current leaders with 20 games to be played and 60 points to fight for? I think I would as we could have been an awful lot worse off given we've had to chuck in Rhys Williams, Kelleher, Nat Phillips, Neco at different times along the way as well. Given what's transpired I think we should be glad that we are still well in contention to be honest.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2021, 03:57:37 PM by Phil M »
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12334 on: January 18, 2021, 03:57:54 PM »
So what's the issue then?

I don't know. You're the one who took issue with the suggestion we should have stretched a gap on them earlier in the season.
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12335 on: January 18, 2021, 04:22:06 PM »
The worst start to a league campaign in Pep’s career. We had the chance to put our foot on their throat early this season, and didn’t.

Looking at our fixtures and theirs before the Anfield game, very real possibility that game is going to be absolute must win.

Why are you posting this shit in this thread ?


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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12336 on: Yesterday at 08:17:18 PM »
Wonder if the Blue Moon lot still think VAR is out to get them after that

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12337 on: Yesterday at 08:37:36 PM »
Bit annoying they’ve become peak Simeone Atleti all of a sudden in defence and John bloody Stones has somehow went from Bramble to Baresi ;D
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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12338 on: Yesterday at 08:46:17 PM »
Bit annoying they’ve become peak Simeone Atleti all of a sudden in defence and John bloody Stones has somehow went from Bramble to Baresi ;D

It's a conscious thing to give them a better chance in the CL imo. They don't get counter attacked at all anymore.

It just also happens that half the league is utter dross and can't break them down either.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12339 on: Yesterday at 09:49:44 PM »
On a great run of form now, omens of their last league title winning season. The thing is, they will probably still throw out a few bad results and it's a strange and long season yet.

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons
« Reply #12341 on: Yesterday at 11:04:51 PM »
On a great run of form now, omens of their last league title winning season. The thing is, they will probably still throw out a few bad results and it's a strange and long season yet.
Their next three are total piss. I'd be shocked if they don't take 9 from 9 before they come to Anfield.

At this point it doesn't even matter what they do in the sense that if we don't put a run of wins together we won't be getting anywhere near the title anyway.
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« Reply #12342 on: Yesterday at 11:06:16 PM »
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« Reply #12343 on: Yesterday at 11:09:59 PM »
Their next three are total piss. I'd be shocked if they don't take 9 from 9 before they come to Anfield.

At this point it doesn't even matter what they do in the sense that if we don't put a run of wins together we won't be getting anywhere near the title anyway.
Definitely going to be the biggest test of our home record.

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« Reply #12344 on: Yesterday at 11:17:46 PM »
Definitely going to be the biggest test of our home record.

Pep will play for a draw I think
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