Topic: Sepp van der Berg

[Keith Lard]

Looks like the lad has had a cracking season at Mainz (36 appearances, 3 goals). Became a mainstay in their defence.

Wonder whether he will get a chance next year. Would be classed as homegrown, is Dutch and played for the Netherlands U21s regularly. Plus we’ve lost Matip so there’s space in the squad for centre backs.

[Dim Glas]

strong rumours that there is a buy out option of €5m and Mainz would have first refusal, and they do want him to stay.

He was fantastic for them, the fans love him.

[No666]

strong rumours that there is a buy out option of €5m and Mainz would have first refusal, and they do want him to stay.

He was fantastic for them, the fans love him.

Who the f*ck negotiated that?

[Coolie High]

Who the f*ck negotiated that?

An idiot(if true).

[Dim Glas]

Who the f*ck negotiated that?

It’s a rumour from some of the German press like Kicker. So I guess we’ll find out if it’s true soonish, as I suspect Mainz would trigger a clause like that.

But he doesn’t have to accept a move, maybe he’ll want to give it a go pre-season at Liverpool. He’s a year older, a full year under his belt after a bad injury ruined campaign the year before. 

[rob1966]

If he's that good, he'd better be back at Kirkby first day of pre-season.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

If he's that good, he'd better be back at Kirkby first day of pre-season.

You would think that he'd fancy his chances of impressing his fellow countryman & new boss.

[rob1966]

You would think that he'd fancy his chances of impressing his fellow countryman & new boss.

Deffo - Quansah has made the break through and with Joel leaving, he could step us, as Quansah has, and become a regular option, starting or from the bench.

[TepidT2O]

Less than €5m seems very low

[BER]

€5m sounds more like a loan fee?

[RyanBabel19]

Be a bit gutted if we dont at least give him pre season

Seems to get rave reviews wherever he goes and he's played a fair bit and impressed at right back which suits us down to the ground

[rob1966]

Be a bit gutted if we dont at least give him pre season

Seems to get rave reviews wherever he goes and he's played a fair bit and impressed at right back which suits us down to the ground

Virg - Ibou - Joe as the 3 seniors

Jarell and Sepp as the understudies

Sounds bloody good that

[Eeyore]

You would think that he'd fancy his chances of impressing his fellow countryman & new boss.

Van Den Berg came through at PEC Zwolle which is Slot's old team. Slot was also a Youth coach there a decade ago.

[RyanBabel19]

Virg - Ibou - Joe as the 3 seniors

Jarell and Sepp as the understudies

Sounds bloody good that

Would save us a fucking fortune!! Potential injuries is the main worry but I do feel it could change a lot with the new staff and different set up.

All signs point to us going for a new CB though (which i'm completely fine with) but it would be a shame to see Sepp wasted when he seems like he could do well here

[Fromola]

It’s a rumour from some of the German press like Kicker. So I guess we’ll find out if it’s true soonish, as I suspect Mainz would trigger a clause like that.

But he doesn’t have to accept a move, maybe he’ll want to give it a go pre-season at Liverpool. He’s a year older, a full year under his belt after a bad injury ruined campaign the year before.

Hope it's not an Ibiza Jorge special, but yeah there's nobody forcing him to go there if he wants to stay.

Could really have a Quansah/Branthwaite impact next season. He's got all the right attributes, plus has first team experience at Liverpool and plenty of games in The Championship where he was Preston's best player, so it's not like he's not the experience of English football either.

Got the impression Klopp never quite rated him for our first team, at least in terms of him being ready, so it's a clean slate with the new manager and a fellow Dutchman.

[phil236849]

There were rumours when he signed for them that there was a buy option.  Not sure our talent recognition of our young CBs has been impressive.  The club seemed slow to recognise Quansahs talent too and there was the flirting with “Billy the kid”. I don’t get it as SVDB did well on a championship loan.  He seems keen to play so I am not sure he would have the patience to give it a go.  My only hope is that it is not clear what the clause says and reports of a buy option are unclear. You would hope we have been savvy

[Fromola]

There were rumours when he signed for them that there was a buy option.  Not sure our talent recognition of our young CBs has been impressive.  The club seemed slow to recognise Quansahs talent too and there was the flirting with “Billy the kid”. I don’t get it as SVDB did well on a championship loan.  He seems keen to play so I am not sure he would have the patience to give it a go.  My only hope is that it is not clear what the clause says and reports of a buy option are unclear. You would hope we have been savvy

Phillips and Williams still on the books as well.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Less than €5m seems very low

The latest reports from Germany suggest it is not true. Allegedly, Mainz only have the right to match any bid we receive for the player ...

[RedG13]

There were rumours when he signed for them that there was a buy option.  Not sure our talent recognition of our young CBs has been impressive.  The club seemed slow to recognise Quansahs talent too and there was the flirting with “Billy the kid”. I don’t get it as SVDB did well on a championship loan.  He seems keen to play so I am not sure he would have the patience to give it a go.  My only hope is that it is not clear what the clause says and reports of a buy option are unclear. You would hope we have been savvy

Didnt he have an Interview where he wanted to play or implied to was very hard to make it at Liverpool. CB development is generally one of the slower ones so can be harder too

[istvan kozma]

There were rumours when he signed for them that there was a buy option.  Not sure our talent recognition of our young CBs has been impressive.  The club seemed slow to recognise Quansahs talent too and there was the flirting with “Billy the kid”. I don’t get it as SVDB did well on a championship loan.  He seems keen to play so I am not sure he would have the patience to give it a go.  My only hope is that it is not clear what the clause says and reports of a buy option are unclear. You would hope we have been savvy

What a ridiculous statement, Quansah has been at the Club since he was 8

[farawayred]

Somehow I have the feeling that van der Berg will see the current CB opening at Liverpool as a once in a lifetime opportunity. We have VVD, Konate and Quansah already established and used based on form, Gomez used everywhere (which I think will continue), and Phillips and Williams on the way out. We are in the market for a CB for sure. Why would van der Berg want to sign for Mainz with the goal to establish himself and eventually make the step to a big club when that very same thing is being on offer right now?

[farawayred]

Didnt he have an Interview where he wanted to play or implied to was very hard to make it at Liverpool. CB development is generally one of the slower ones so can be harder too

Better yet, how many young players have broken into a top club in the CB position? They usually get a full back role to test their way to handle the league physicality.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Somehow I have the feeling that van der Berg will see the current CB opening at Liverpool as a once in a lifetime opportunity. We have VVD, Konate and Quansah already established and used based on form, Gomez used everywhere (which I think will continue), and Phillips and Williams on the way out. We are in the market for a CB for sure. Why would van der Berg want to sign for Mainz with the goal to establish himself and eventually make the step to a big club when that very same thing is being on offer right now?

I share your opinion. His development this season, combined with the departure of Matip and the arrival of Slot, could be a once in a lifetime opportunity for Sepp ...

[RedG13]

Better yet, how many young players have broken into a top club in the CB position? They usually get a full back role to test their way to handle the league physicality.

It a low %. It really hard to break into a central position at a young age. Bajcetic doing it in CM was pretty impressive too(Sucks with his injuries  last year).
Quansah also impressive with that too. It taken Jones multiple years for it. Elliott taken multiple years to fully up to speed centrally too even if he was starting in Midfield at 18(then got an awful injury)

[Fromola]

Didnt he have an Interview where he wanted to play or implied to was very hard to make it at Liverpool. CB development is generally one of the slower ones so can be harder too

Quansah's emergence this season should give him confidence, combined with Matip leaving and Konate being a crock. A Dutch manager coming in.

Also all our CB's will be at the Euros as well (if Quansah picked) so it gives him a real opening in the early pre-season weeks to impress.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

What a ridiculous statement, Quansah has been at the Club since he was 8

 

[PeterTheRed ...]

It is interesting that he has developed the ability to play at both sides of central defence ...

https://youtu.be/h-uWFsl_Tzo

[terry_macss_perm]

The latest reports from Germany suggest it is not true. Allegedly, Mainz only have the right to match any bid we receive for the player ...

Given the daft money we were expecting for Phillips (and others) it’s inconceivable that we’d let a promising young CB go for £4m or so. We don’t let players go on the cheap anymore.

[RedG13]

Quansah's emergence this season should give him confidence, combined with Matip leaving and Konate being a crock. A Dutch manager coming in.

Also all our CB's will be at the Euros as well (if Quansah picked) so it gives him a real opening in the early pre-season weeks to impress.

I agree with that but we dont know how much the club values him for that also.
If he get a contact extension(idk when his is up) could matter too etc.
Lots of Factors. He was one of those signed at 16 too.
He signed a new deal in 2022 before being loaned out was there any details on how long that was etc?

[PeterTheRed ...]

I agree with that but we dont know how much the club values him for that also.
If he get a contact extension(idk when his is up) could matter too etc.
Lots of Factors. He was one of those signed at 16 too.
He signed a new deal in 2022 before being loaned out was there any details on how long that was etc?

He has 2 years left on his contract ...

[RedG13]

He has 2 years left on his contract ...

Yea so basically the call is he get a chance with extension(to be earned) or sold more likely.
Him as 4/5 Cb to start the season over buying could be an option

[MBL?]

Who cares anyway? Can't even get his name spelled correctly in his own thread.

[Buster Gonad]

Who cares anyway? Can't even get his name spelled correctly in his own thread.

Den sell him

[Tobez]

Den sell him

ExSepp we might come to regret that.

[Fromola]

I agree with that but we dont know how much the club values him for that also.
If he get a contact extension(idk when his is up) could matter too etc.
Lots of Factors. He was one of those signed at 16 too.
He signed a new deal in 2022 before being loaned out was there any details on how long that was etc?

New manager and coaching staff, Edwards/Hughes etc. coming in. It's a fresh start for the likes of him and Carvalho.

He might well leave, but there's usually someone who comes in pre-season and impresses the manager and gets their chance. Quansah did it last year, Bajcetic the year before.

[RedG13]

New manager and coaching staff, Edwards/Hughes etc. coming in. It's a fresh start for the likes of him and Carvalho.

He might well leave, but there's usually someone who comes in pre-season and impresses the manager and gets their chance. Quansah did it last year, Bajcetic the year before.

Yea It possible. The recruitment/data staff didnt change outside of the top guys.

[phil236849]

What a ridiculous statement, Quansah has been at the Club since he was 8

That’s a bit strong even from someone heralding the Souey years!😉

Do you remember Billy Koumetio being promoted before him and given chances and all the “Billy the kid” talk from JK and Pep?

Why does the fact that Quansah has been at the club since 8 mean that the club didn’t promote him as quickly as they could have?  It’s pretty clear they backed the wrong horse for a while with Koumetio who has gone on to fail on various loan spells unlike Jarrell.  It always seemed obvious to me in youth games that Quansah was much the better player.  But let’s not let the detail get in the way eh ….

[Fromola]

Sounds promising from Pearce in The Athletic:

Says we value him at 20 mill "Reports in Germany suggested that Mainz have an option to buy the 22-year-old for as little as £4.3m, but Liverpool are adamant that’s not the case".

Slot is fully aware of Van den Berg’s ability and incoming assistant Sipke Hulshoff knows him from the Netherlands national team set-up. Pre-season will provide an opportunity for the defender to shine before a decision is made over whether to sanction a sale.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

That’s a bit strong even from someone heralding the Souey years!😉

Do you remember Billy Koumetio being promoted before him and given chances and all the “Billy the kid” talk from JK and Pep?

Why does the fact that Quansah has been at the club since 8 mean that the club didn’t promote him as quickly as they could have?  It’s pretty clear they backed the wrong horse for a while with Koumetio who has gone on to fail on various loan spells unlike Jarrell.  It always seemed obvious to me in youth games that Quansah was much the better player.  But let’s not let the detail get in the way eh ….

It's almost like players can develop at different speeds & those speeds are usually set by the Club depending on the young players needs.

[phil236849]

It's almost like players can develop at different speeds & those speeds are usually set by the Club depending on the young players needs.

It might almost be like that, but it was clear when Quansah and Koumetio played together that Quansah was the better player, yet Koumetio got promoted with great fanfare