Topic: Members Sales

[redgriffin73]

May as well just convert us to seasies now if all 19 are guaranteed

I agree, makes perfect sense 

[Crosby Nick]

This is what I'm worried about too. I think they've worded it vaguely on purpose. "A guaranteed sale" doesn't necessarily mean for all tickets. We'll all be shafted by this fucking ballot system they've insisted on bringing in to appease the once a season day trippers.

Hey, that’s twice in a good year.

[viewing only]

It's not difficult at all to pro-rata last season. For those saying it is...

Full season... 19 games with 13 games the magic number.

Which translates to , if you attend 68.4211% of games in a 'normal season' then you're guaranteed a ticket.

So let's use that same formula for last season.

Last season... 15 games played, what's 68.4211% of that? 10.26317, call it 11 games if you want.


Again. Not. That. Difficult.

The problem is the time people invested last year in getting tickets has been completely discounted. Ignored totally.

I do get that you can't just assume people would have got tickets for any remaining games, totally. Which is why pro-rata makes sense. This takes into account the actual physical time spent by people in getting tickets.

This is the solution. Ridiculous to say otherwise.

Pile 13 from 18/19 on top too if you want to be generous.

[Harinder]

Sorry, just saw this after my previous post. So if we're on 13+ we will be guaranteed all 19, no Cat C type ballot?

Hi, yes. No ballots for those on 13+ from 18/19.

[30fiver]

Hi, yes. No ballots for those on 13+ from 18/19.

So when do the members on 13+ in all ACS who are guaranteed 19 games get to swap for seasies which are obvs cheaper

[redgriffin73]

300 is just a headline number though. There'll be more that probably could've got to 13 with a bit more refreshing for the games that ended up being closed doors. It's probably a fairly significant number of people in that instance.

I've emailed SOS my thoughts anyway even though I'm on 19 from 18/19 and I'd encourage everyone to do the same. My main concern is essentially 13+ is a quasi-season ticket (good for me) but not so great that younger fans will find it difficult getting to that number now.

Oi, ssshhhhh you! 

[Samio]

Harinder - what's the rationale behind the pro-rata solution I suggested not being adopted?

Completed season or not. The effort of buying a ticket in 2018/19 and 2019/20 remained the same.

[davidsteventon]

Ha.
I buy for 4.
Best check what my credit card limit is…
Don’t even think it covers over 3grand…

[redgriffin73]

Hey, that’s twice in a good year.

Bugger off you gloryhunter

[RainbowFlick]

It's not difficult at all to pro-rata last season. For those saying it is...

Full season... 19 games with 13 games the magic number.

Which translates to , if you attend 68.4211% of games in a 'normal season' then you're guaranteed a ticket.

So let's use that same formula for last season.

Last season... 15 games played, what's 68.4211% of that? 10.26317, call it 11 games if you want.


Again. Not. That. Difficult.

The problem is the time people invested last year in getting tickets has been completely discounted. Ignored totally.

I do get that you can't just assume people would have got tickets for any remaining games, totally. Which is why pro-rata makes sense. This takes into account the actual physical time spent by people in getting tickets.

and yet you're ignoring that some people might've actively chosen to skip some games expecting the final few games to go ahead. There is always going to be an aggrieved party.

Even pro-rata over a few seasons would be inequitable for younger fans who've only recently started becoming a 'regular'.

There are so many different outcomes but in reality the Club should've just sacrificed some general sale seats.

[RainbowFlick]

Oi, ssshhhhh you! 

Just want them to send us our new shiny green cards and a nice lil season ticket pack. I won't tell anyone 

[redgriffin73]

Hi, yes. No ballots for those on 13+ from 18/19.

Thank you - and thanks for being brave and coming in here, it's like when Graham appears and gets bombarded every time

[stoz]

Over time, with the mobile technology, then surely this will benefit those who do actually go to the game, and it will root out those with 13+ credits, that go to 4 or 5 of the games that they've bought?

[Harinder]

So when do the members on 13+ in all ACS who are guaranteed 19 games get to swap for seasies which are obvs cheaper

 

[redgriffin73]

Just want them to send us our new shiny green cards and a nice lil season ticket pack. I won't tell anyone 

[Samio]

and yet you're ignoring that some people might've actively chosen to skip some games expecting the final few games to go ahead. There is always going to be an aggrieved party.

Even pro-rata over a few seasons would be inequitable for younger fans who've only recently started becoming a 'regular'.

Even if they did go ahead, you couldn't expect to get a ticket. So your point is complete nonsense.

This is about looking after the fans that actually invested their own time and effort into buying tickets. And the club saying - that means fuck all soz.

[RainbowFlick]

Even if they did go ahead, you couldn't expect to get a ticket. So your point is complete nonsense.

This is about looking after the fans that actually invested their own time and effort into buying tickets. And the club saying - that means fuck all soz.

It's not nonsense. You seem entitled. You and a few others in this thread are looking for outcomes that benefit your specific cohort, ignoring the various other circumstances that also equally should have a say.

[Harinder]

Thank you - and thanks for being brave and coming in here, it's like when Graham appears and gets bombarded every time

I don't always get the time like I used to be on RAWK. I do read what's placed in here as truly it's feedback to put into ticketing forums so that all opinions are represented. I had a feeling some of the 300 or so would also be RAWKites so only fair I come in to hear what's being felt so can push back to club to see what can happen

[Samio]

It's not nonsense. You seem entitled. You and a few others in this thread are looking for outcomes that benefit your specific cohort, ignoring the various other circumstances that also equally should have a say.

Your point is based on things potentially/maybe happening. Ifs and buts. "Oh maybe I would have got a ticket for another game at the end", "Oh I was hoping to go on this game because I couldn't for that game" etc.

My point is dealing with absolutes. Things that have already happened. Like actually having already invested time and effort into buying tickets.

[JoeKopite]

I am one of those fucked over with 13/15 last season.

I kindly ask everyone in my situation to contact Spirti of Shankly and Peter Moore via email and/or social media.

Let's call it out, it is not fair for us.

[viewing only]

I am one of those fucked over with 13/15 last season.

I kindly ask everyone in my situation to contact Spirti of Shankly and Peter Moore via email and/or social media.

Let's call it out, it is not fair for us.

Agreed - do you have the relevant email addresses. Thanks

[Welshred]

I am one of those fucked over with 13/15 last season.

I kindly ask everyone in my situation to contact Spirti of Shankly and Peter Moore via email and/or social media.

Let's call it out, it is not fair for us.

Graeme Smith is part of the supporters ticketing committee so SOS have been involved from the outset.

[RainbowFlick]

Your point is based on things potentially/maybe happening. Ifs and buts. "Oh maybe I would have got a ticket for another game at the end", "Oh I was hoping to go on this game because I couldn't for that game" etc.

My point is dealing with absolutes. Things that have already happened. Like actually having already invested time and effort into buying tickets.

And those people in the ifs and buts also need consideration, not just you, because you magically happened to refresh enough and be able to afford/attend the first 13 home fixtures.

Might as well pro-rata over the past decade and see if people have the same concerns.

[viewing only]

And those people in the ifs and buts also need consideration, not just you, because you magically happened to refresh enough and be able to afford/attend the first 13 home fixtures.

Might as well pro-rata over the past decade and see if people have the same concerns.

Magically happened to refresh enough! Reckon it took about 5 months of my life last season to make up the credits that I lost during 18/19 because I was out of the country.

It is blatantly unfair and anybody saying otherwise is incorrect.

[redgriffin73]

I don't always get the time like I used to be on RAWK. I do read what's placed in here as truly it's feedback to put into ticketing forums so that all opinions are represented. I had a feeling some of the 300 or so would also be RAWKites so only fair I come in to hear what's being felt so can push back to club to see what can happen

Sorry, I have one more question! Do the F&F have to be official members?

[Samio]

And those people in the ifs and buts also need consideration, not just you, because you magically happened to refresh enough and be able to afford/attend the first 13 home fixtures.

Might as well pro-rata over the past decade and see if people have the same concerns.

If we are in agreement that the 'ifs and buts' also wanted to get to the magic 13+. Those people didn't invest their time and energy into getting tickets, did they? And that's the point.

You cannot just cut people loose that went through the actual pain of getting tickets.

And your comment about the last 10 years is stupid as well. I get the feeling you're just saying 'things' now.

I am asking for last season to be treated like other seasons, when 68% of games attended means you're guaranteed. I'm not asking for anything unbelievably shocking here.

[Harinder]

Sorry, I have one more question! Do the F&F have to be official members?

Nope, I asked that one at forum meetings. They just need to be named up front. Once named, they can't change until the following season so pick the 20 carefully!

[ChrisLFCKOP]

Yeah deffo 15 there. Did you get the email?

I have not had an email yet and I went to 17 games.

[RebeccaLFC]

I have not had an email yet and I went to 17 games.

Yeah. I think it’s good if you don’t have an email- so I think I need to contact them. It’s all their on my history. My name, number and got the email confirmations! 

[redgriffin73]

Nope, I asked that one at forum meetings. They just need to be named up front. Once named, they can't change until the following season so pick the 20 carefully!

Thanks! So the original ticket holder keeps the credit I assume as some could be passed to non-members?

[swoopy]

Thanks! So the original ticket holder keeps the credit I assume as some could be passed to non-members?

Making it totally pointless.

[Welshred]

Thanks! So the original ticket holder keeps the credit I assume as some could be passed to non-members?

No credits next season

[Tiz Lad]

Nope, I asked that one at forum meetings. They just need to be named up front. Once named, they can't change until the following season so pick the 20 carefully!

Sorry to pester Harinder, is there going to be a pre-login for guaranteed sales so the site is not flooded with people 'trying their arm'

[redgriffin73]

No credits next season

Yeah, I'm thinking ahead now

[PaulKS]

More interested in the away credits personally, I have 14 from 18/19 and was on 12 for 19/20 so sort of makes sense for aways to stick with 18/19... Relieved the home & away cup credits will remain

Not gonna though lie I'd be livid if I had all the homes from last season and not many from 18/19. Proper kick in the balls

[DangerScouse]

And those people in the ifs and buts also need consideration, not just you, because you magically happened to refresh enough and be able to afford/attend the first 13 home fixtures.

Might as well pro-rata over the past decade and see if people have the same concerns.

Ridiculous argument. Completely missing the point. Those lads/lasses bought tickets for the games. Others didn't. That's unfortunate for them but even more unfortunate for those who actually purchased for the requisite games.

[Kenny19]

Any ideas if or how it's possible to change a full membership to a light membership?

The membership section in my account just lets me tick a checkbox but that's about it, doesn't show any update/delete/... options

Cheers

[Welshred]

Let it expire then buy a light membership?

[Barneylfc∗]

I am one of those fucked over with 13/15 last season.

I kindly ask everyone in my situation to contact Spirti of Shankly and Peter Moore via email and/or social media.

Let's call it out, it is not fair for us.

Hasn't Peter Moore moved on?

[Welshred]

£5 discount next season for those who need this season