Topic: Members Sales

[Divock]

But for all them sales, the website was also closed and put into a queue for tickets? The only different is with unique link you are only getting one chance to join the queue as opposed to 50284838 tabs? So it was still luck?

I agree, it's defo still luck but I'd say you now need to be much luckier to get a good queue time than under the old system, if you were savvy.

This system is fairer and if somebody only used to try one tab for the old sales, they may end up with a better chance of  getting the odd game under the new system. However, those people would never have got to 13+ under the old system anyway.

People that used multiple tabs under the old system would have stood a chance of making it to 13+ but will find life much harder under this system. The game's the game, so I don't frown upon people that used multiple tabs when the system allowed them to do this (except touts, obviously).

[Bapsandwaps]

Could anyone just confirm they can access the hallmap I e the exchange? I've tried all afternoon but am getting thrown in a hospitality page.

[Andypandimonium]

13+? 4+ looking like a struggle these days.

[Ab125]

Was the sheff local ballot supposed to be today as well?

[keano7]

Was the sheff local ballot supposed to be today as well?

Last Wednesday. Results were Friday.

[Ab125]

Last Wednesday. Results were Friday.

That was Brighton?

[keano7]

That was Brighton?

It was for both.

[RainbowFlick]

It doesn’t make sense. Luck is the exact same as it was without the unique links? The only different is you have to register to access the sale and use one browser.

You still get a random queue number when it wasn’t unique links or when using the link?

Not *really* true, imo. Unique links is ideal for less tech-savvy people, or people who don't have multiple links (i.e. groups). It undoubtably is the most fair option, but it evens the playing field, which is why some people don't like it.

Those 52352325 tabs are more likely to get you in early (and therefore more likely to get to 13+), than perhaps 1-8 links you might have as an individual or group per sale.



/



I don't think 13+ will be completely impossible going forward, but it'll need a lot of luck and refreshing and checking you're not buying STH seats in returns etc. The hospo loophole will still presumably be there too for those with money. Also a chance we'll be 'settling' for a season or two with a new manager, so might not have half the world trying to see Klopp as it is right now.

[Ab125]

It was for both.

Surely not

[ScubaSteve]

But for all them sales, the website was also closed and put into a queue for tickets? The only different is with unique link you are only getting one chance to join the queue as opposed to 50284838 tabs? So it was still luck?

My queue times have always been historically poor, but unique links, registering your interest, and selling in the first sale as a ballot is the fairest way to do it. I praise the ticket office for doing this

What the club do need to change though, is the transferring of tickets to F&F. It’s disgusting how someone can bypass all those processes and any pre requisite which is even more bizarre. It’s away ticket mentality

[anfieldpurch]

Palace 1-1539 on waitlist.

1576 - ouch.

Disability waiting list.. just 1 again.. 1,2,1 for the last 3 sales... My lad is number 5 for Spurs so nervous wait

[RebeccaLFC]

Last Wednesday. Results were Friday.

It wasn’t.

Sheff United was today  . It’s in your purchase history taken today and £9 pending from my bank.
Unsuccessful for Brighton, successful for Sheffield

[RebeccaLFC]

Was the sheff local ballot supposed to be today as well?

Yeah, in your purchase history if you got one

[swoopy]

My queue times have always been historically poor, but unique links, registering your interest, and selling in the first sale as a ballot is the fairest way to do it. I praise the ticket office for doing this

What the club do need to change though, is the transferring of tickets to F&F. It’s disgusting how someone can bypass all those processes and any pre requisite which is even more bizarre. It’s away ticket mentality

Correct. The credit farming and building up other memberships to 13+ using the transfer method is so wrong. Exactly what people said would happen too.

[RebeccaLFC]

Not *really* true, imo. Unique links is ideal for less tech-savvy people, or people who don't have multiple links (i.e. groups). It undoubtably is the most fair option, but it evens the playing field, which is why some people don't like it.

Those 52352325 tabs are more likely to get you in early (and therefore more likely to get to 13+), than perhaps 1-8 links you might have as an individual or group per sale.



/



I don't think 13+ will be completely impossible going forward, but it'll need a lot of luck and refreshing and checking you're not buying STH seats in returns etc. The hospo loophole will still presumably be there too for those with money. Also a chance we'll be 'settling' for a season or two with a new manager, so might not have half the world trying to see Klopp as it is right now.

If someone can open one link, they can open it several times on different tabs. Soon everyone will be opening millions of tabs.

Plus people moan about bots… the unique link is there to oppose bots.

Both are down to luck, and a unique link is no harder than no unique link …. They all ultimately came down to luck. You could open 700 tabs and all them be over an hour

[mighty magpie]

If someone can open one link, they can open it several times on different tabs. Soon everyone will be opening millions of tabs.

Plus people moan about bots… the unique link is there to oppose bots.

Both are down to luck, and a unique link is no harder than no unique link …. They all ultimately came down to luck. You could open 700 tabs and all them be over an hour

This can't happen now nor could it happen in the old system

[RebeccaLFC]

This can't happen now nor could it happen in the old system

What I’m saying is, if you can open a link… then even with out the unique link you could open new tabs. You don’t have to be tech savvy. I was just highlighting they’re the same motion.

You could deffo open multiple tabs on the old system

[pistol]

“ Unique sale links has actually made 13+ a closed shop now. Nobody next year will ever get to 13+ from using unique links”

Just saw this on twitter what do we make of it as a take?
With the logic being your not going to get lucky with low queue numbers 13 times in one season

But i dont think anyone was realistically getting to 13+ in one season (without gaming the system).

Getting to 4 is still reasonably achievable - only takes a few shit team midweek games where people can't give tickets away.

Then the following season the odds on 4+ tickets are quite good, and added to the crap midweek ones doesnt leave too far to go to get to 13.

[RebeccaLFC]

But i dont think anyone was realistically getting to 13+ in one season (without gaming the system).

Getting to 4 is still reasonably achievable - only takes a few shit team midweek games where people can't give tickets away.

Then the following season the odds on 4+ tickets are quite good, and added to the crap midweek ones doesnt leave too far to go to get to 13.

I agree, most do it in 2 stages, first get four plus, then try for the 13

[RebeccaLFC]

I’ve seen loads on twitter getting that email where they’ve esssentuakly been banned with the registration for Brighton / Sheffield and when you check them, it’s ones where they must forward all the time… so maybe club have a new way of classing touts buy seeing if the tickets are always forwarded on to people every single game etc.

When you go on their twitter page, they’re all the try hards too who are clearly forwarding them on for clout and money

Good news that tho!

[mighty magpie]

What I’m saying is, if you can open a link… then even with out the unique link you could open new tabs. You don’t have to be tech savvy. I was just highlighting they’re the same motion.

You could deffo open multiple tabs on the old system

No, it has to be multiple browsers not multiple tabs.
Having multiple tabs will just give the user the same queue position on all of the tabs withing same browser.

People on twitter are getting banned for having multiple blag burner accounts with duplicate names, addresses etc. very stupid but one lad got his account back. They all play dumb and think they've done nothing wrong.

[Bapsandwaps]

Would you note have to pay the membership fee on each blag account through?

[pistol]

Would you note have to pay the membership fee on each blag account through?

Yes, but when they're only doing it to tout, the membership is easily covered either from buying a ticket on that account, or increasing chances of getting in early and hoovering up.

[ScubaSteve]

The club need to investigate who’s selling tickets on livefootballtickets. There are currently 722 up for sale for the Brighton game.

I can only assume that it’s the club who are selling these tickets. How can a club be so stupid not to act otherwise

[30fiver]

The club need to investigate who’s selling tickets on livefootballtickets. There are currently 722 up for sale for the Brighton game.

I can only assume that it’s the club who are selling these tickets. How can a club be so stupid not to act otherwise

Personally think a large number of them aren't real, when someone buys the seller then goes and sources

Someone made a valid point on here a while back that you can't actually just go on there and sell your tickets

[pistol]

Personally think a large number of them aren't real, when someone buys the seller then goes and sources

Someone made a valid point on here a while back that you can't actually just go on there and sell your tickets

This.

And when you buy from there, nothing is confirmed straight away.  The order goes pending until their 'supplier' confirms they can provide.

[ScubaSteve]

So basically you have people scooping up the tickets when the club release them haha

100% even more reason to stop the passing on of tickets. You can’t go, you return back to the club for a re sale

Sounds about right to be honest, as that’s a lot of tickets being claimed to be sold

[walterwhite]

If someone can open one link, they can open it several times on different tabs. Soon everyone will be opening millions of tabs.

Plus people moan about bots… the unique link is there to oppose bots.

Both are down to luck, and a unique link is no harder than no unique link …. They all ultimately came down to luck. You could open 700 tabs and all them be over an hour

The only thing I'd be worried about having a link attached to an account is take for example some sites are known to put 'good' accounts into better queue positions based on how long the account is open etc. Then luck plays a certain element but not all, not that I think this will happen but its a possibility that your in the top 100 cause you spend x amount on the club store   

[mighty magpie]

Would you note have to pay the membership fee on each blag account through?

no, they are creating free GA blag accounts to transfer tickets to

[RainbowFlick]

What I’m saying is, if you can open a link… then even with out the unique link you could open new tabs. You don’t have to be tech savvy. I was just highlighting they’re the same motion.

You could deffo open multiple tabs on the old system

the unique link is only one queue number, even if you open it elsewhere. it won't give you an additional queue position. unless there's now a bypass.

[RebeccaLFC]

the unique link is only one queue number, even if you open it elsewhere. it won't give you an additional queue position. unless there's now a bypass.

I was on about the old way, its easy to open multiple browsers, some said you needed to be tech savvy!

I know this way its one link and only one queue position.

[sharkeyb]

I was on about the old way, its easy to open multiple browsers, some said you needed to be tech savvy!

I know this way its one link and only one queue position.

i've used two different links (one of the lads couldn't help on the sale) they were opened up in the same browser and both unique links recognised this and merged the queue numbers

[30fiver]

i've used two different links (one of the lads couldn't help on the sale) they were opened up in the same browser and both unique links recognised this and merged the queue numbers

Yeah still have to user separate browsers or separate 'sessions/users'

[Pinehurst Alan]

Hall Map for Sheff Utd attached- will keep an eye for how many left after the Ballot folk have had their fill.... (I have this as my brother was one of the lucky ones)

[RainbowFlick]

I was on about the old way, its easy to open multiple browsers, some said you needed to be tech savvy!

I know this way its one link and only one queue position.

there's no way many of our older fans are opening multiple tabs, speaking from experience of people i've spoken to  i don't mean being a tech-wiz, but there's a certain element of being savvy, including just understanding how the site works and how to shave seconds off your basketing time

[dundeejoe]

ffs
registered for palace then went to Brighton hallmap and blocked after 5mins
i was only counting up 1 to 5 then pressing f5 on the 5
joke

[Minore]

Am I the only one who doesn't have Ticket Exchange available for Brighton?

[ABJ]

Loads just became available for Brighton, got 1 for a mate, with a credit too 

[dundeejoe]

Loads just became available for Brighton, got 1 for a mate, with a credit too 

after all the moaning i got one with a credit

[ScubaSteve]

Must’ve just missed it