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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5120 on: January 2, 2023, 09:26:43 pm »
Came on here for a look at the half time thread and I thought he was getting quite a lot of unwarranted stick. Done alright tonight and scored a nice header. Shame it counted for nothing in the end.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5121 on: January 14, 2023, 08:34:22 pm »
Seems to be nailed on starter for the last 5 games or so, in a new position he's never really played in. Not sure what he offers or can't be dropped into a traditional midfield position

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5122 on: January 14, 2023, 08:39:31 pm »
Should have been moved on seasons ago.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5123 on: January 14, 2023, 08:44:49 pm »
Please stop starting him, Jurgen. Thanks.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5124 on: January 14, 2023, 08:47:50 pm »
Seems to be nailed on starter for the last 5 games or so, in a new position he's never really played in. Not sure what he offers or can't be dropped into a traditional midfield position
What is his traditional position? Right wing back? Ox has never been a CM he was shoe horned there rightly early in his LFC career. Guy has no defensive nous or passing range. Was a crazy signing then imo. I like the guy as well.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5125 on: January 14, 2023, 08:50:59 pm »
Nice guy and has given us some amazing moments but he should have been moved on ages ago. Should probably have never bought him in the first place. He wasn’t exactly cheap and the injury issues were well known.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5126 on: January 14, 2023, 08:54:44 pm »
Nice guy and has given us some amazing moments but he should have been moved on ages ago. Should probably have never bought him in the first place. He wasn’t exactly cheap and the injury issues were well known.
He was a bargain….he got an horrific injury fighting for this club….

He’s playing out of position for the club.

Through no fault of his own, maybe a case of what might have been, but in no way his fault and I willl always look back fondly on his time at the club
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5127 on: January 14, 2023, 08:55:26 pm »
He was a bargain….he got an horrific injury fighting for this club….

He’s playing out of position for the club.

Through no fault of his own, maybe a case of what might have been, but in no way his fault and I willl always look back fondly on his time at the club

He wasn’t a bargain.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5128 on: January 14, 2023, 08:56:43 pm »
Nothing against the lad but why is he even still here, let alone starting every week? He was lucky if he made the bench in the back half of last season.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5129 on: January 14, 2023, 08:58:36 pm »
He was a bargain….he got an horrific injury fighting for this club….

He’s playing out of position for the club.

Through no fault of his own, maybe a case of what might have been, but in no way his fault and I willl always look back fondly on his time at the club
He have given us some great moments but we shouldn't have let him run down his contract here.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5130 on: January 14, 2023, 08:58:37 pm »
He was a bargain….he got an horrific injury fighting for this club….

He’s playing out of position for the club.

Through no fault of his own, maybe a case of what might have been, but in no way his fault and I willl always look back fondly on his time at the club
he was 35m even worse than Iwobi who doesn’t have a injury record like Ox. One of the only Klopp flops with Keita.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5131 on: January 14, 2023, 09:02:33 pm »
Lallana would still offer a lot more at 34.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5132 on: January 14, 2023, 09:04:14 pm »
he was 35m even worse than Iwobi who doesn’t have a injury record like Ox. One of the only Klopp flops with Keita.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5133 on: January 14, 2023, 09:04:37 pm »
He wasn’t a bargain.
He was

He’d have been twice that with more time on his contract
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5134 on: January 14, 2023, 09:06:32 pm »
He was

He’d have been twice that with more time on his contract

What he was a Ł70m player? No way.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5135 on: January 14, 2023, 09:07:07 pm »
He was

He’d have been twice that with more time on his contract

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5136 on: January 14, 2023, 09:09:45 pm »
What he was a Ł70m player? No way.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5137 on: January 14, 2023, 09:10:32 pm »
he was 35m even worse than Iwobi who doesn’t have a injury record like Ox. One of the only Klopp flops with Keita.

what a daft comment.

An absolutely awful injury was the end of his effectiveness here - that’s no one’s fault. Before then he certainly wasn’t a flop. In fact a fully fit flying Oxlade from pre-injury - that sort of player would be great right now quite frankly.

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« Reply #5138 on: January 14, 2023, 09:13:45 pm »
what a daft comment.

An absolutely awful injury was the end of his effectiveness here - that’s no one’s fault. Before then he certainly wasn’t a flop. In fact a fully fit flying Oxlade from pre-injury - that sort of player would be great right now quite frankly.
He’s rightly going inthe summer…and that contract extension was maybe given a little too soon.

But I’d love a pre injury chamberlain right now
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5139 on: January 14, 2023, 09:16:34 pm »
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5140 on: January 14, 2023, 09:16:44 pm »
what a daft comment.

An absolutely awful injury was the end of his effectiveness here - that’s no one’s fault. Before then he certainly wasn’t a flop. In fact a fully fit flying Oxlade from pre-injury - that sort of player would be great right now quite frankly.
He was injury prone at Arsenal. People give Keita no credit but he was part of the winning era. Oxlade was injured the whole time. Out of his contract he didn’t have a stretch performances. He’s a good footballer but to sign him was always a crazy risk. Don’t rewrite history.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5141 on: January 14, 2023, 09:24:51 pm »
Lallana would still offer a lot more at 34.
Was always our best midfielder in early Klopp sides. Would prefer we kept Lallana over Keita,Ox,Hendo when he left. That’s a tidy footballer. Made of biscuits but a true technician with work rate.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5142 on: January 14, 2023, 09:31:17 pm »
Him starting games LW for Liverpool in 2023 is truly unbelievable.

Depresses the fucking life out of me, to be honest.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5143 on: January 14, 2023, 09:32:18 pm »
Him starting games LW for Liverpool in 2023 is truly unbelievable.

Depresses the fucking life out of me, to be honest.
but it’s not his fault. His time is up, we know it is. 
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5144 on: January 14, 2023, 09:48:25 pm »
What is his traditional position? Right wing back? Ox has never been a CM he was shoe horned there rightly early in his LFC career. Guy has no defensive nous or passing range. Was a crazy signing then imo. I like the guy as well.

Certainly isn't the one he's being told to play at the moment

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5145 on: January 14, 2023, 10:40:03 pm »
Was always our best midfielder in early Klopp sides. Would prefer we kept Lallana over Keita,Ox,Hendo when he left. That’s a tidy footballer. Made of biscuits but a true technician with work rate.
Just no. The memory of the pre-injury Ox keeps getting better for every season. His highest number of PL starts in a season was 17, second highest 14.
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« Reply #5146 on: January 14, 2023, 10:42:45 pm »
Just no. The memory of the pre-injury Ox keeps getting better for every season. His highest number of PL starts in a season was 17, second highest 14.
im talking about Lallana in that post not Ox.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5147 on: January 14, 2023, 10:45:44 pm »
im talking about Lallana in that post not Ox.
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« Reply #5148 on: January 14, 2023, 10:47:49 pm »
I've always been an Ox defender and have seen a lot of positives when he's played (which hasn't been often for obvious reasons.)

But I've come around.  He shouldn't be getting on the pitch more than 10 minutes every other game if that.  I just don't see what he offers us anymore.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5149 on: January 14, 2023, 10:49:15 pm »
I've always been an Ox defender and have seen a lot of positives when he's played (which hasn't been often for obvious reasons.)

But I've come around.  He shouldn't be getting on the pitch more than 10 minutes every other game if that.  I just don't see what he offers us anymore.
Maybe, but on the flip side, he’s actually fit and has pace.

Yeah, he’s not a left winger, but everyone else is fucked so….. not really his fault.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5150 on: January 14, 2023, 11:45:40 pm »
He have given us some great moments but we shouldn't have let him run down his contract here.
what have the options been?  he's been injured so often, for so long, nobody would be interested in buying him. 

we can't just "fire" him.

it seems like you're saying we should have paid out his contract?  why do that? no money saved, and we would have lost an experienced player who - if he'd been able to get back to form+fitness - would have been a huge boost to us, or possibly been sell-able.

just saying "we shouldn't have let him run down his contract" is simplistic.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5151 on: January 14, 2023, 11:47:14 pm »
he was 35m even worse than Iwobi who doesn’t have a injury record like Ox. One of the only Klopp flops with Keita.
oh ffs. he got crippled in a game and has never been able to fully recover.

 how in god's name can that been seen as a "Klopp flop"?

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5152 on: January 14, 2023, 11:52:08 pm »
what have the options been?  he's been injured so often, for so long, nobody would be interested in buying him. 

we can't just "fire" him.

it seems like you're saying we should have paid out his contract?  why do that? no money saved, and we would have lost an experienced player who - if he'd been able to get back to form+fitness - would have been a huge boost to us, or possibly been sell-able.

just saying "we shouldn't have let him run down his contract" is simplistic.
Loan. He wasn't always injured mate. Barely got a kick last January despite us being in 4 competition (after we signed Diaz). He even got left out on a few occasions even when fit.

There are two transfer windows every year and he's been surplus to requirements for 2/3 years. That's 4-6 opportunities to move him on. A loan is possible because we moved Sturridge on to West Brom for 5 months and his injury record was worse.
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« Reply #5153 on: January 14, 2023, 11:53:18 pm »
oh ffs. he got crippled in a game and has never been able to fully recover.

 how in god's name can that been seen as a "Klopp flop"?
Ox was a utility player at Arsenal who couldn’t nail down a place with a EXTENSIVE injury record. Arsenal who was a team who was on our level or below. They accepted that bid with no resistance. How is he a success? He was part of the team that lost in Athens I believe (got injured in the run in).He missed the CL winning season. While he also missed most of our PL winning season if my memory is correct. How is he a signing that makes sense? He did well at the start but he was always known as a midfielder who was injury prone and had no settled position. It’s not like he came to LFC and only been injured here. I like the guy but he was a huge gamble that’s not paid off.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5154 on: January 15, 2023, 12:10:00 am »
What I take an issue with is his last long-term contract after a serious injury, before he was able to prove that he can regain his pre-Roma form. he never did, and never will. We operated as a charity organization, not as a football club.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5155 on: January 15, 2023, 12:28:43 am »
Ox was a utility player at Arsenal who couldn’t nail down a place with a EXTENSIVE injury record. Arsenal who was a team who was on our level or below. They accepted that bid with no resistance. How is he a success? He was part of the team that lost in Athens I believe (got injured in the run in).He missed the CL winning season. While he also missed most of our PL winning season if my memory is correct. How is he a signing that makes sense? He did well at the start but he was always known as a midfielder who was injury prone and had no settled position. It’s not like he came to LFC and only been injured here. I like the guy but he was a huge gamble that’s not paid off.

To be fair, I think he was a signing that at the time was thought to be undervalued. We saw some glimpses of his capabilities. As time as worn on, he has revealed himself to be a fairly limited player. I think he's now the kind of player that would go to a Palace, Villa or Forest and look like a really good player, but then look pretty average at a top club where nearly everyone is a top player.

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« Reply #5156 on: January 15, 2023, 01:11:34 am »
I thought he might get taken off before half time, but was truly shocking that after the first half he had that he lined up for the second half in an unchanged side - still can't really fathom what was going on there, because nobody could argue that he's playing games on merit of performance (or that performance is a prerequisite to him starting games)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5157 on: January 15, 2023, 01:46:49 am »
A lot of strange comments on this page. Ox was never worth 70m, particularly at the time we bought him, when that sort of fee was reserved for best-in-class. 35m seemed quite steep at the time given his injury record and utility role at Arsenal, but in the early days at Liverpool it seemed like we'd snagged another gem like Mane or Mo. Then the horror injury happened, and we never got to see what appeared inevitable. But he did play a big role in our title winning season - i watched the 10min highlights of all 38 games last year and was surprised how many games he started and how many important contributions he made. So he's no flop, but not did we get the returns we'd hoped for.



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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5158 on: January 15, 2023, 07:16:25 am »
No issue with Ox other than if he his leaving in the summer and the season is turning into dead rubber then develop someone who will be here next season with those minutes. Everything else doesn't really matter. Feel for him after those injuries though, his dynamism was his best thing. It's gone as far as I can see.
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« Reply #5159 on: January 15, 2023, 08:23:33 am »
I just don’t get why he’s playing.

He pulled out of a tackle which is unforgivable.
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