Topic: The Men in Suits behind the scenes

[Samie]

https://twitter.com/newscolina/status/1790823235522592868

Fenway Sports Group (FSG), the majority owner of Liverpool's shares, showed interest in acquiring SAF from Vasco.

The American group has already carried out a survey in this regard, as it hinted at the possibility of investing in a multi-club network.

In addition to FSG, a company from the Crefisa group also demonstrated its intention to become the majority shareholder of Vasco SAF

[TepidT2O]

Should go and buy Branthwaite now. He’s not good enough for us, but it would piss them off and there’s no way that they can afford to turn us down

[Lisan Al Gaib]

It would be funny if we bought some of the other clubs 777 have as well at a discounted rate which led to their purchase of Everton to go through which then takes them down

[Samie]

I think they own  Liege in Belgium too. A decent sized club and Belgium have been producing talent for the best part of two decades now.

[Hazell]

I think they own  Liege in Belgium too. A decent sized club and Belgium have been producing talent for the best part of two decades now.

Yeah, Fellaini sticks out as the absolute diamond from all of those players.

[Lisan Al Gaib]

They do. Also own Genoa, Hertha BSC, and Red Star in France

If they really are going tits up there's some very decent clubs who will be going on the cheap there that would be right up FSG's street.

[Samie]

Yeah, Fellaini sticks out as the absolute diamond from all of those players.

HOW DARE YOU FORGET STEVEN DARFOR? He rang rings around in the games we played against them. Also Axel Witsel was good. 

[Garlic Red]

Remember when they nearly KOd us in that CL qualifier. Dante and Onyewu at the back, Mbokani up front and the three youngsters in midfield. I wanted Witsel for years after that, really impressive as a teenager and had a good career.

Future red Jovanovic on the bench too 

[kasperoff]

Yeah, he was, he was only half the manager Klopp is, though, so I wouldn’t be using him as a great example to follow. He was a ruthless manager but he was actually bordering on stupid in the transfer window at times.

He had 1 arm tied behind his back. He wanted the likes of Ramos, Villa and Alves and wasn't given the backing. When he was we got Torres, Alonso and Mascherano. When he had to wheel and deal we ended up with mediocre players.

[Egyptian36]

Yeah, he was, he was only half the manager Klopp is, though, so I wouldn’t be using him as a great example to follow. He was a ruthless manager but he was actually bordering on stupid in the transfer window at times.

No he is not. 70m net spend thanks to Madrid buying Alonso. Only a genius would have achieved what Rafa did for us, he was literally working alone under toxic ownership.

[Historical Fool]

James Pearce

Fucking chancer he and Ornstein both. Just purveyors of fake news for clicks who actively want to destabilise the club.

[spider-neil]

Fucking chancer he and Ornstein both. Just purveyors of fake news for clicks who actively want to destabilise the club.

Most of Ornstein's fake news is correct.

[Kalito]

Yeah, he was, he was only half the manager Klopp is, though, so I wouldn’t be using him as a great example to follow. He was a ruthless manager but he was actually bordering on stupid in the transfer window at times.

What a stupid post. Absolutely ridiculous and very disrespectful to say the least.

[Avens]

Fucking chancer he and Ornstein both. Just purveyors of fake news for clicks who actively want to destabilise the club.

HF, not the first time you've said this about Ornstein. Why? He's probably the most reliable high profile football journalist out there at the moment.

[DiggerJohn]

https://twitter.com/newscolina/status/1790823235522592868

Im not in favour of multi club ownerships model but if we do it having a club in South America is the best option.  Its another continent away so never going to meet in the CL or Europa Cup.  Man City and Girona like issue.  Though will we still have issues with granting of work premits?

[MonsLibpool]

Some talk of Vasco de Gama being a potential target club for FSG.

Vasco's value is higher than what I expected us to go for.

FSG are not messing around here. They mean business.

[MonsLibpool]

Hello! This seems to have legs to it.

777 have been removed.

https://x.com/geglobo/status/1790930649613812053

[Fiasco]

Most of Ornstein's fake news is correct.

Yeah, I think Ornstein is usually spot on. I think he milks the info he gets, but he's clearly got a source somewhere.

[Historical Fool]

Well I don’t have an X account, refuse to participate in that cesspool. But even if it was true, what purpose does it serve to ‘report’ that the new incoming staff came to blows with the outgoing coaching staff at Melwood and the police were called? It’s just to generate outrage and clicks and serves no purpose.

Same with Pearce, foreshadowing a hit piece on Klopp after he leaves just to generate interest.

[lionel_messias]

Yeah, Fellaini sticks out as the absolute diamond from all of those players.

In most rooms, he would stick out to be fair.

[lionel_messias]

Fucking chancer he and Ornstein both. Just purveyors of fake news for clicks who actively want to destabilise the club.

Not so, Ornstein is a good journalist who will publish stories when he has confirmed sources.

Not to be confused when sometimes he will be forced to speculate on a story (as all of us do on here 98% of the time!).

[Eeyore]

Vasco's value is higher than what I expected us to go for.

FSG are not messing around here. They mean business.

The question is who will be paying for it. Will FSG take on the acquisition and running costs at FSG level or will they set up a separate MCO company and expect that group to be self-sufficient?

[MonsLibpool]

The question is who will be paying for it. Will FSG take on the acquisition and running costs at FSG level or will they set up a separate MCO company and expect that group to be self-sufficient?

What I expect is for them to get a low interest loan based on the value of their portfolio.

They like buying undervalued teams to rebuild them and reap the benefits.

[Eeyore]

What I expect is for them to get a low interest loan based on the value of their portfolio.

They like buying undervalued teams to rebuild them and reap the benefits.

Will that loan be at FSG level though or at the Football group level?

[killer-heels]

Will that loan be at FSG level though or at the Football group level?

Thats my worry, that at some point FSG start releasing the group financial results rather than individual clubs. Only an accountant would be able to know if possible. I know in fashion that someone like Kering release group wide results but to get them individually for Gucci, Balenciaga etc. is hard work.

[MonsLibpool]

Will that loan be at FSG level though or at the Football group level?

It will be at FSG level. The football "group" is not big enough to finance it.

They don't take money out of their teams directly, neither do they put a lot in (with the exception of infrastructure) because at the end of the day, they are businessmen that are in it for profit.

Having valuable clubs like us and the Red Sox makes it easy for them to raise funds. That's the value they've earned by improving their teams

[MonsLibpool]

Thats my worry, that at some point FSG start releasing the group financial results rather than individual clubs. Only an accountant would be able to know if possible. I know in fashion that someone like Kering release group wide results but to get them individually for Gucci, Balenciaga etc. is hard work.

By law, Liverpool still has to publish separate accounts.

[mickeydocs]

Well I don’t have an X account, refuse to participate in that cesspool. But even if it was true, what purpose does it serve to ‘report’ that the new incoming staff came to blows with the outgoing coaching staff at Melwood and the police were called? It’s just to generate outrage and clicks and serves no purpose.

Same with Pearce, foreshadowing a hit piece on Klopp after he leaves just to generate interest.

What is the Athletic piece that is being alluded to?

[killer-heels]

By law, Liverpool still has to publish separate accounts.

Thanks, so if there is ever any cross funding, we should know.

[Avens]

Well I don’t have an X account, refuse to participate in that cesspool. But even if it was true, what purpose does it serve to ‘report’ that the new incoming staff came to blows with the outgoing coaching staff at Melwood and the police were called? It’s just to generate outrage and clicks and serves no purpose.

Same with Pearce, foreshadowing a hit piece on Klopp after he leaves just to generate interest.

Haha what the fuck are you talking about HF 

This is just like that time Klopp called Nkunku a talking donkey isn't it 

[Eeyore]

Thanks, so if there is ever any cross funding, we should know.

No we won't.

We will just get the figures relevant to Liverpool. The Football group signs a deal say with Adidas. If that is done at group level then the only figures we will get will be how much is given to Liverpool. We won't know what the entire amount was or how much Fenway Sports management earned from the transaction.

Same thing with pre-season tours, same thing with how much the group level company will earn from providing consultancy services. Edwards for instance wont be a LFC employee. So how much will we pay to the group for services provided by Edwards and his team. Look at City group they have set up a scouting database that all the teams in the group pay for. City do it so they can pump extra money into Man City. There is nothing to stop it working the other way.

[Eeyore]

By law, Liverpool still has to publish separate accounts.

City has to publish separate accounts that doesn't mean it stops them cross funding City.

[disgraced cake]

Vasco are in Rio aren't they? Big club with some history behind it, interesting to see if it comes off. Not that I'm behind multi club ownership at all it's a load of shite.

[MonsLibpool]

Thanks, so if there is ever any cross funding, we should know.

We should because things like that need to be disclosed. I don't get the impression that we willingly withhold information.

[Keith Lard]

No we won't.

We will just get the figures relevant to Liverpool. The Football group signs a deal say with Adidas. If that is done at group level then the only figures we will get will be how much is given to Liverpool. We won't know what the entire amount was or how much Fenway Sports management earned from the transaction.

Same thing with pre-season tours, same thing with how much the group level company will earn from providing consultancy services. Edwards for instance wont be a LFC employee. So how much will we pay to the group for services provided by Edwards and his team. Look at City group they have set up a scouting database that all the teams in the group pay for. City do it so they can pump extra money into Man City. There is nothing to stop it working the other way.

Damn good point. It's sad, but we will have to pump deals a bit like Man City. Otherwise, the playing field becomes even more uneven.

[Crosby Nick]

HOW DARE YOU FORGET STEVEN DARFOR? He rang rings around in the games we played against them. Also Axel Witsel was good. 

Dante who won the Champions League at Bayern (I think?).

One of the greatest footballers in the world in Milan Jovanovic. And Mbokani who I think once scored against us for Norwich.

Remember when that qualifier draw was made and thinking it would be nice and routine and it turned out we were seeing the beginnings of Belgium’s re-emergence as a footballing force.

[MonsLibpool]

Dante who won the Champions League at Bayern (I think?).

One of the greatest footballers in the world in Milan Jovanovic. And Mbokani who I think once scored against us for Norwich.

Remember when that qualifier draw was made and thinking it would be nice and routine and it turned out we were seeing the beginnings of Belgium’s re-emergence as a footballing force.

That Liege team was very good.

[Kalito]

2 of the toughest games we'd had under Rafa against Standard Liege ...

Brilliant team.

[newterp]

That Liege team was very good.

better than a pub team, for sure.

[lionel_messias]

Dante who won the Champions League at Bayern (I think?).

One of the greatest footballers in the world in Milan Jovanovic. And Mbokani who I think once scored against us for Norwich.

Remember when that qualifier draw was made and thinking it would be nice and routine and it turned out we were seeing the beginnings of Belgium’s re-emergence as a footballing force.

Yeah, he Peaked early.