Topic: Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker / The Mandalorian / The Clone Wars

[XabiArt]

And the Empire. And the AT-AT's/ST's. And the light sabres. And the Millennium falcon. And the Death Stars. And...

Well, maybe keep the light sabres.

Make new stuff.


It's not happening, is it?

But when they do make new stuff people complain that they are just new gimmicks to sell toys and they should stick to proper star wars that we all loved, you can't win.

[Something Worse]

But when they do make new stuff people complain that they are just new gimmicks to sell toys and they should stick to proper star wars that we all loved, you can't win.

New ships/characters etc are going to be ok. Slightly updated ones (black x wing, gorilla ATATs) seem like a cash in. And fucking Porgs are just a cash in on the minions fad.

[XabiArt]

I'll agree on the porgs, its all very ewok.

But when you consider the timeline or the films being just 30 years on from the originals then the vehicles are going to be very similar, look at cars and planes from the 80's and today.

Whether its an updated X-Wing or a brand new Z-Wing its still a toy they would sell anyway, at least it still feels very star wars and we get the original sounds that is amazing to experience in the cinema.

[Something Worse]

I'll agree on the porgs, its all very ewok.

But when you consider the timeline or the films being just 30 years on from the originals then the vehicles are going to be very similar, look at cars and planes from the 80's and today.

Whether its an updated X-Wing or a brand new Z-Wing its still a toy they would sell anyway, at least it still feels very star wars and we get the original sounds that is amazing to experience in the cinema.

The difference from the prequels to the OT (purely in terms of the tech) were significant but felt connected - there were obvious early models for the ships that were a big part of the OT. Not even having A wings in episode 7 felt like Abrams had only watched 4 when he (re)wrote the movie.

[Mr Mingebag Squid]

In case anyone wants some unique Star Wars prints (or T-shirts!) for Christmas ... 

I've designed some for the original trilogy, available here in various formats (click portfolio to see the options!).

https://www.redbubble.com/people/PJHooley/shop

Are you ever going to do prequel/sequel wall prints? My three are looking lonely on the wall

[Macphisto80]

But when they do make new stuff people complain that they are just new gimmicks to sell toys and they should stick to proper star wars that we all loved, you can't win.

Yeah, true. It's Star Wars. It's never going to evolve. It's gotten to the point where that's all it is. Damned if you do and if you don't.

[XabiArt]

I would love the new trilogy to be around the KOTOR games from a decade ago, fantastic stories.

[Trada]

For the royal spotters out thee

Star Wars' John Boyega confirms Princes William and Harry are Stormtroopers in The Last Jedi.

[RedSince86]

For the royal spotters out thee

Star Wars' John Boyega confirms Princes William and Harry are Stormtroopers in The Last Jedi.

Tom hardy and Gary Barlow are decked in Stormtrooper garb in the same scene with the royals in a elevator scene guarding Finn.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/princes-harry-william-play-stormtroopers-new-star-wars-film-1058161

[lionel_messias]

For the royal spotters out thee

Star Wars' John Boyega confirms Princes William and Harry are Stormtroopers in The Last Jedi.

People will do anything to blag free tickets to see this early.

[Trada]

Multi Millionaires putting extras out of work.

[PaulF]

Easy enough to concoct another part of the rebellion fighting the empire. Pretty sure a decent set of films can be made.
I liked rogue one

[TepidT2O]

Multi Millionaires putting extras out of work.

[SP]

Easy enough to concoct another part of the rebellion fighting the empire. Pretty sure a decent set of films can be made.
I liked rogue one

I suppose knowing how the 2nd World War turned out did not ruin a whole genre.

[oojason]

The Last Jedi has received a 12A rating in the UK (and passed uncut) - http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/star-wars-last-jedi-2017

[lionel_messias]

The Last Jedi has received a 12A rating in the UK (and passed uncut) - http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/star-wars-last-jedi-2017

And 152 mins.

[PaulF]

I do find it odd that finn seems to find such pleasure in killing stormtroopers. Yes they are the servants of the first order, but presumably they aren't all bad.

I did think they were evolved clones.
Must read some star wars universe books.

[WillG.LFC]

I do find it odd that finn seems to find such pleasure in killing stormtroopers. Yes they are the servants of the first order, but presumably they aren't all bad.

I did think they were evolved clones.
Must read some star wars universe books.

especially as he didn't want to kill people in episode 7

[PaulF]

especially as he didn't want to kill people in episode 7

Exactly, and yet even in VII he's happily blasting stormtroopers.

[ArthurDooley82]

Tom hardy and Gary Barlow are decked in Stormtrooper garb in the same scene with the royals in a elevator scene guarding Finn.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/princes-harry-william-play-stormtroopers-new-star-wars-film-1058161

Gary fkn tax evading Tory Barlow and two silver spooned toffs in Star Wars ? I’m boycotting Star Wars 

[lionel_messias]

So expectations for The Last Jedi?

Director Rian Johnson is really really good. So dangerously I'm expecting a 9/10 movie, if he nails the tone, makes it funny as well (he says it is), brings genuine surprises, and has battles that have real bite to them; then that will do it.

I thought Force Awakens really nailed the tone of the original movies, without of course coming up with a very original plot. I really like the new characters, especially Rey and Finn.

There may be some comparisons with Empire Strikes Back, but they would be unfair because that movie had a much better director of actors than George Lucas AND probably the best plot twist of ALL TIME up its sleeve. Plus Empire was able call on the world building of Star Wars, which had gripped the planet in 1977-81 and changed the film industry with it.

My main hope is Rian Johnson has made his own movie, changing some of the things we think we know about Star Wars. It looks beautiful from the trailers, if it is surprising too....that will be awesome.

[voodoo ray]

none.

As usual I'm looking forward to seeing it but will judge it on its merits.

[Something Worse]

I'm expecting the Porgs to be insufferable bullshit shoehorned in to sell toys, and the plot to be very similar to Empire.

Beyond that? I'm not sure. There's a commercial on over here and it's the Falcon landing in someone's back yard. And I realised it's not Han and Chewie in the Falcon any more, it's Finn and Rey. Can you imagine a less interesting pair of people to travel space with? So the magic is gone and I don't think it's coming back for me personally. I guess I just hope there's some cool space shit like the end of Rogue One

[sminp]

The two they’ve done so far have been excellent and this one has the opportunity to be a bit more daring after TFA needed to be fairly safe so I’ve got high hopes.

[elbow]

The two they’ve done so far have been excellent and this one has the opportunity to be a bit more daring after TFA needed to be fairly safe so I’ve got high hopes.

Yeah, that's a good assessment and about where I am.

[blacksun]

The two they’ve done so far have been excellent and this one has the opportunity to be a bit more daring after TFA needed to be fairly safe so I’ve got high hopes.

Sorry but neither were excellent, TFA was basically a rehash with nothing outstanding about it and whilst I enjoyed Rogue I couldn't get attached to any of the characters as I knew they were all going to die

[Riquende]

My favourite part of watching TFA was ripping it to shreds for a few hours in the pub afterwards. I never watched it again after that night and I'm expecting much the same from this.

Rogue One was a pleasant diversion though.

[Macphisto80]

And so it begins. The product endorsement, the advertisements, everything by association to Star Wars has started. We're only three films deep into this gravy train.

[voodoo ray]

yeah because that's a new thing.

http://www.starwars.com/news/luke-i-am-your-lather-shampoo-soap-and-bubble-bath-from-a-galaxy-far-far-away

the star wars name has been plastered on all kinds of shit for decades now.

[aggerdid]

I just want this one to be its own film. I dont want any blatant repackaging of previous scenes or themes like TFA was. Personally i have no qualms with these porg characters. Dunno why they’re causing aggro. Just penguin style creatures inhabiting skellig doubt they’ll have a part as big as ewoks or jar jar

[Rob Dylan]

I just want this one to be its own film. I dont want any blatant repackaging of previous scenes or themes like TFA was. Personally i have no qualms with these porg characters. Dunno why they’re causing aggro. Just penguin style creatures inhabiting skellig doubt they’ll have a part as big as ewoks or jar jar

Yeah they're not going to be defeating an army of stormtroopers or <shudder> talking like Jar Jar. New TV spots and stuff:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/mMkiP03wB3A" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/mMkiP03wB3A</a>

[Musketeer Gripweed]

I was in Orlando last month. The merchandise nearly put me off the new movie. I was that disgusted I only bought the two tee shirts.

The hype will be off the scale when the new park opens over there though.

[J-Mc-]

I was in Orlando last month. The merchandise nearly put me off the new movie. I was that disgusted I only bought the two tee shirts.

The hype will be off the scale when the new park opens over there though.

Worst thing about the merchandising for TLJ is that they released it all before the trailer had even been dropped!

[Something Worse]

I just want this one to be its own film. I dont want any blatant repackaging of previous scenes or themes like TFA was. Personally i have no qualms with these porg characters. Dunno why they’re causing aggro. Just penguin style creatures inhabiting skellig doubt they’ll have a part as big as ewoks or jar jar

They're such a shameless cash in, that's what bothers me. Some marketing dork at Disney wants a Star Wars branded Minion. They can do a crossover movie with Baby Groot. There's no way they're going to have any purpose in the movie other than to be cute.

And yeah I think Star Wars was the original merchandise tie-in franchise movie right?

[WillG.LFC]

Think i enjoy the build up/event rather than the actual films these days. As with the last 2 films me and the family will all be heading into town for breakfast together and then off to watch it. Under 2 weeks to go!

[oojason]

For anyone wanting to watch the various TLJ teasers, trailers, tv spots, behind-the-scenes stuff etc, there is a list of links on here that may be of interest...

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/752pie/updated_complete_list_of_tlj_footage/

[Kashinoda]

Mark Hamill really can't deliver a line, can he?

[Rob Dylan]

They're such a shameless cash in, that's what bothers me. Some marketing dork at Disney wants a Star Wars branded Minion. They can do a crossover movie with Baby Groot. There's no way they're going to have any purpose in the movie other than to be cute.

And yeah I think Star Wars was the original merchandise tie-in franchise movie right?

Except they were Rian Johnson's idea, they're based on the puffins on Skellig Michael:

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1712489/why-rian-johnson-created-the-porgs-for-star-wars-the-last-jedi

Their role in the film will be to provide some light relief from the more serious stuff happening on the island. No different from the droids in Empire.

Anyway, I don't get this whole Minion thing you keep mentioning - they look nothing like Minions, they're more like owls with mouths instead of beaks.

[Something Worse]

Except they were Rian Johnson's idea, they're based on the puffins on Skellig Michael:

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1712489/why-rian-johnson-created-the-porgs-for-star-wars-the-last-jedi

Their role in the film will be to provide some light relief from the more serious stuff happening on the island. No different from the droids in Empire.

Anyway, I don't get this whole Minion thing you keep mentioning - they look nothing like Minions, they're more like owls with mouths instead of beaks.

Theyre a tool to sell merchandise, cutesy pointless characters that makes weird people buy branded stuffed toys, car stickers etc. The Minions have been a ridiculous money spinner, and they want their Star Wars version of it. There's no defending it.

[Macphisto80]

It's all a bit too obvious, though. Too obvious for me to get annoyed over it. Star Wars has always had that something bunged in there, not because it makes sense to the plot, but because it looks cool for the kids to lap up and want a toy version of it, which is what they get. That's fine by me. Nothing new in that at all, but it's the spin offs, the partnerships with other stuff outside of Star Wars that busts my bollocks. I can't fucking stand it, and it's just another reason why I find the entire franchise obnoxious. That's all it is, btw. Don't be fooled in thinking Disney want to genuinely make a decent Star Wars film for the sake of any artistic merit. They'll plug as much shit as possible, and the story be damned.