Author Topic: Mario Balotelli (Read 92757 times)

SlowRap · « **on:** July 2, 2016, 03:18:19 pm »

Since there are no open topics about this maverick, has the penny finally dropped?

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"In my view there weren't enough [expectations put on me], as I can do so much more than what I said. But it takes time," said Balotelli.

"On the scale of 0 to 10, I stopped at five, but I'll get to 10 eventually. I want to get there. I will win the Ballon d'Or.

"I do realise that I've spent two years of my career when I could've been getting closer to 10 and instead stayed at five.

"I know, the Ballon d'Or might seem laughable and I might not have done everything to be the best, but the important thing is I realised it's not too late."

"I don't want to reach the end of my career with the regret of not doing everything I can to be the best," he said.

"Up until two years ago I made do with what I had. I did well, knew I could play, so I was happy. It wasn't in my mind to improve, as I thought that was enough.

"Over the last two years I started working seriously, yet the results did not arrive. Maybe I am paying the price for the previous 23 years.

"I am relaxed, though, as I am aware that in the last two years things have changed completely."

I see some glimmer of hope in that Payet was very similar to Mario in that he had disciplinary issues and finally broke through at the age of 27, Mario will turn 26 in August. With the sale of Benteke, can Mario be the plan B? No one else seems to want him and if he buys into Klopp's vision...

I for one haven't given up on Mario

HighSix · « **Reply #1 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:23:06 pm »

I dont really want my striker to be talking like this... The last two years have been Marios worst.

When Mario was Mario he was better. Be a lion not the apologetic mouse on his 'last chance', trying to be humble & please everyone. Fuck them & just score goals.

rocco · « **Reply #2 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:28:30 pm »

Less talk more action

Smellytrabs · « **Reply #3 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:38:36 pm »

If he can sort out his attitude, he only has his lack of talent standing in his way.

10 years on · « **Reply #4 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:42:34 pm »

Quote from: Smellytrabs on July 2, 2016, 03:38:36 pm

If he can sort out his attitude, he only has his lack of talent standing in his way.

Talent has always been there.

the_red_pill · « **Reply #5 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:43:08 pm »

Haha- typical of this sort of "character". Seen many of them in my life and they always break the hearts of those who care about them the most. They just consume every bit of love and sympathy thrown their way and almost always turn out a disappointment- a hustler, a playa, a mama's boy, a smooth operator- call him what you want, but he falls in that category. He charms his way around life- only looking out for "Mario".

Always trolling those people who want to see the redeeming qualities in them. We keep on saying it, but Mario is going to keep the softies on a leash for a long time.
The sort of guy who play on the heartstrings of the vulnerable!

The only player I've ever turned my back on(I was against him since before we got him, in any case) and I hope we can get at least a little something from any deal. One of those people who promise you the world and leaves you with nothing; but it seems some never learn with Mario Balotelli. Even in Balotelli's final hours, will they still believe in him(but not many other more worthy people)- because he targets your heart.

Buck Pete · « **Reply #6 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:49:04 pm »

Reckon Mario is looking at that Italian team now and thinking. "What the fuck have I done?"

I'm really interested to see how Jurgen plays this. Lets be honest, we have only had JK for 8 months or so and we dont REALLY know what he is about when it comes to decisions like this.

Mario really does split peoples opinions but for me personally, I'd fucking love to see a committed and firing Mario here at LFC. I can't help it, but I like him.

Probably won't happen like but hope it does

Imortal · « **Reply #7 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:52:48 pm »

I have no sympathy for him,lazy lazy fella,just bin him off already.

I know people love a redemption story,but he's done at top level.

10 years on · « **Reply #8 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:53:48 pm »

Quote from: the_red_pill on July 2, 2016, 03:43:08 pm

Haha- typical of this sort of "character". Seen many of them in my life and they always break the hearts of those who care about them the most. They just consume every bit of love and sympathy thrown their way and almost always turn out a disappointment- a hustler, a playa, a mama's boy, a smooth operator- call him what you want, but he falls in that category. He charms his way around life- only looking out for "Mario".

Always trolling those people who want to see the redeeming qualities in them. We keep on saying it, but Mario is going to keep the softies on a leash for a long time.
The sort of guy who play on the heartstrings of the vulnerable!

The only player I've ever turned my back on(I was against him since before we got him, in any case) and I hope we can get at least a little something from any deal. One of those people who promise you the world and leaves you with nothing; but it seems some never learn with Mario Balotelli.

How can you judge someone when you don't know them at all?

the_red_pill · « **Reply #9 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:54:50 pm »

Quote from: 10 years on on July 2, 2016, 03:53:48 pm

How can you judge someone when you don't know them at all?

Simples. By looking at how they conduct their life?

I've made my judgement of Mario Balotelli. He's not worth my energy or hope. I'd rather give it to someone else.

xbugawugax · « **Reply #10 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:57:54 pm »

Quote from: the_red_pill on July 2, 2016, 03:43:08 pm

Haha- typical of this sort of "character". Seen many of them in my life and they always break the hearts of those who care about them the most. They just consume every bit of love and sympathy thrown their way and almost always turn out a disappointment- a hustler, a playa, a mama's boy, a smooth operator- call him what you want, but he falls in that category. He charms his way around life- only looking out for "Mario".

Always trolling those people who want to see the redeeming qualities in them. We keep on saying it, but Mario is going to keep the softies on a leash for a long time.
The sort of guy who play on the heartstrings of the vulnerable!

The only player I've ever turned my back on(I was against him since before we got him, in any case) and I hope we can get at least a little something from any deal. One of those people who promise you the world and leaves you with nothing; but it seems some never learn with Mario Balotelli. Even in Balotelli's final hours, will they still believe in him(but not many other more worthy people)- because he targets your heart.

thats the exact same shit he came out with before he joined us and look at what happened.

if that is not bad enough, he almost said the identical, work hard, train hard bullshit while he was joining milan.

flog him off. not worth the trouble.

Rush 82 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:58:04 pm »

I hope Mario comes good. I like him.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #12 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:58:55 pm »

Quote from: Smellytrabs on July 2, 2016, 03:38:36 pm

If he can sort out his attitude, he only has his lack of talent standing in his way.

He's has bags of talent. Probably more talented than half our current squad. He just lacks application and desire. I don't think there's a future for him at LFC, and I don't think he'll even get close to being nominated for a balon d'or, but to say he lacks talent is just quite simply untrue.

10 years on · « **Reply #13 on:** July 2, 2016, 03:59:22 pm »

Quote from: the_red_pill on July 2, 2016, 03:54:50 pm

Simples. By looking at how they conduct their life?

I've made my judgement of Mario Balotelli. He's not worth my energy or hope. I'd rather give it to someone else.

But you don't know how he conducts his life don't believe everything you hear in the media.

perspectiveplease · « **Reply #14 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:01:44 pm »

I vividly remember a lot of posters defending the signing the first time around, ignoring the warning signs over his failures at his previous clubs and arguing that even if we did fail we could recoup a big fee. Always thought that was optimistic.

bird_lfc · « **Reply #15 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:03:16 pm »

everyone tends to mention 'the talent is there' but what actually is meant to be his stand out quality which gives him the potential to be 'one of the best'? (genuine question here)

the_red_pill · « **Reply #16 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:03:48 pm »

Quote from: xbugawugax on July 2, 2016, 03:57:54 pm

thats the exact same shit he came out with before he joined us and look at what happened.

if that is not bad enough, he almost said the identical, work hard, train hard bullshit while he was joining milan.

flog him off. not worth the trouble.

Yip. I'm familiar with the tactics.
He wants something, that's why he's talking like that. He's actions been saying something completely different.

I grew up in a community of hustlers and conman, so I can smell it.

.adam · « **Reply #17 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:04:21 pm »

Quote from: 10 years on on July 2, 2016, 03:59:22 pm

But you don't know how he conducts his life don't believe everything you hear in the media.

You don't have to believe everything to know that he just does not exhibit the mentality and professionalism expected of a top-level footballer.

Appreciate the suggestion that not everything written about Balotelli is true (and indeed you're correct) but fuck me, he doesn't help himself with some of the shit he does get up to that has proven to be true.

.adam · « **Reply #18 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:05:31 pm »

Quote from: bird_lfc on July 2, 2016, 04:03:16 pm

everyone tends to mention 'the talent is there' but what actually is meant to be his stand out quality which gives him the potential to be 'one of the best'? (genuine question here)

I would imagine the Euro 2012 game against Germany is the Balotelli that everyone would like to see on a consistent basis.

the_red_pill · « **Reply #19 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:07:16 pm »

Quote from: 10 years on on July 2, 2016, 03:59:22 pm

But you don't know how he conducts his life don't believe everything you hear in the media.

Keep on believing in him mate. He'll disappoint you.
Just cut him loose.

Eliit · « **Reply #20 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:07:32 pm »

I really didn't want us to sign him. I've always thought that his talent has been vastly overstated because of his stupidity.

King Klopp. · « **Reply #21 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:09:14 pm »

Always makes me laugh when people say 'if he can improve his attitude'

The only reason he has had half the career he has is his ridiculous attitude. It's masked the fact he isn't very fucking good at football.

Kennys from heaven · « **Reply #22 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:09:45 pm »

Quote from: the_red_pill on July 2, 2016, 03:43:08 pm

The only player I've ever turned my back on(I was against him since before we got him, in any case)

El-Hadj Diouf. (Lee Bowyer aside) You will not see in World Football a c*nt of such epic proportions for quite some time. For his many faults, Mario is not worthy of the same contempt as that shithouse.

But back to Mario

Although I agree with some of what you say, I just can't get over the feeling that he was also a major victim of a team that was not playing well as well and I still maintain that he dropped deep, went wide, pulled defenders and worked hard but never got the service or support he needed. Even when he held the ball up well, being up front on his own and having to lead the line with various players being brought in constantly, I would argue he never got a fair crack at the whip. Being up front on your lonesome, means you can be too easily played out the game and we've seen this with other players than just him when they've struggled. Seeing a Firmino and Coutinho hit some form and Emre Can now starting to look like a player (Lallana as well) if he stays and does not perform, then he can have no excuses, but if he stays and produces, then all the better.

Where we do agree is that although I can understand that if he got despondent, he should have just kept going and going and not dropped off. But that's not Mario's way and I have a feeling that there were a few players around that didn't exactly take to Brendan in the way we're led to believe. That said, everyone changes eventually and lets face it, he knows he's fucked up as well. The talent is there, that much is clear, so whilst no-one wants him, see what his appetite is, even if it's to get him to a stage where he's sellable, then it should be a clean sheet for this season and see what happens. If he goes, then sobeit of course, but while he's here, he's got my support.

Kenny's Jacket · « **Reply #23 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:13:24 pm »

Quote from: Eliit on July 2, 2016, 04:07:32 pm

I really didn't want us to sign him. I've always thought that his talent has been vastly overstated because of his stupidity.

Me too. Hes just not that good at Football.

Redman0151 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:15:02 pm »

I've seen similar from him and his agent in the past. He'll be getting moved on as quickly as possible, Klopp won't want him messing with the intense pre season schedule

Chakan · « **Reply #25 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:15:45 pm »

It's just words really...

El Lobo · « **Reply #26 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:16:08 pm »

He's good at penalties

Rush 82 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:18:38 pm »

Just wait and see, Klopp will turn him into our Lewandowski

or break him

Schmidt · « **Reply #28 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:21:56 pm »

He said similar when he arrived and did very little to back up those words.

Also here's something Klopp has said about his past antics:
http://liverpooloffside.sbnation.com/liverpool-social-facebook-stories-fanshots/2016/4/4/11362198/book-passage-reveals-jurgen-klopp-is-not-a-fan-of-mario-balotellis

Kopout · « **Reply #29 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:25:56 pm »

IF IF IF IF IF

just fuck him off to china.

Carlito Roberto · « **Reply #30 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:30:28 pm »

I couldn't think of a worse fit for a Klopp team than Mario Balotelli. Plus the fact that despite all the stuff about him being an 'amazing talent', the reality is he's just not that good at footy. Two league goals in the last two seasons isn't it. Good luck to him wherever he ends up.

jepovic · « **Reply #31 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:42:25 pm »

Quote from: Eliit on July 2, 2016, 04:07:32 pm

I really didn't want us to sign him. I've always thought that his talent has been vastly overstated because of his stupidity.

Exactly. I don't care much about his arrogance and stupid acts, but he's just a pretty limited footballer. If he would have accepted that his fate is to be another Benteke, not another Suarez, he would have had a much better career.
He's turning 26 soon, by the way - not a talent anymore.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #32 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:45:08 pm »

Look

I'm not quite sure what people want from Mario.

He hasn't got a new club for next season, what would we be happy with him saying? Would we be happy with him refusing to return or disrespecting the club?

I don't think he's said a word wrong there, fair does to the lad. Obviously I hope he's gone next season, because I can't imagine a player less suited to loops football, but he's said the right stuff.

Beninger · « **Reply #33 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:48:01 pm »

Eh whatever.

Claude Cat · « **Reply #34 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:49:44 pm »

If he was to ever come good, he'd need a run of games to click properly and with only the league this year that ain't gonna happen.

Oh yeah, and he's wank.

Alan B'Stard · « **Reply #35 on:** July 2, 2016, 04:50:36 pm »

Just get rid. He Wasn't good enough and wasn't what we needed when we first signed him.

Bags of talent no doubt, but his attitude, desire and application is not there. If I had to choose between Benteke and Mario it would be Benteke all the way.

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #36 on:** July 2, 2016, 05:02:04 pm »

One of the most talented players in the world, but the brain and the mentality are simply not there.

Zoomers · « **Reply #37 on:** July 2, 2016, 05:07:16 pm »

Reality is gonna hit him hard when he meets Klopp.

archie · « **Reply #38 on:** July 2, 2016, 05:31:07 pm »

Amazing how some players get a longer leash from fans.

China by the end of the year.

Funky_Gibbons · « **Reply #39 on:** July 2, 2016, 05:46:06 pm »

Quote from: archie on July 2, 2016, 05:31:07 pm

Amazing how some players get a longer leash from fans.

China by the end of the year.

He won't go to China.

He'll leave somewhere on loan before the end of the season with us paying a majority of his wages and then leave on a free after that when his contract has expired. No one is going to offer us any money for him.