Topic: NBA Discussion

[Romeo Sensini]

The state of the Western Conference is insane. Even more so if all of Paul George, Millsap, Lowry goes West and Hayward re-signs. Also a distant possibility, but Melo too. Eastern Conference playoff spots 4-8 could be a crapshoot.

If I'm Westbrook, I get the hell out of that West and head to Miami or something after next season.

[GreatEx]

DeAndre Drummond

Is this some kind of hybrid player? - putrid free throw shooter combines with putrid free throw shooter to create Free Throw Airball Shooter?

[Working Class Hen-Pecked Hero]

Is this some kind of hybrid player? - putrid free throw shooter combines with putrid free throw shooter to create Free Throw Airball Shooter?

Didn't even notice haha. Was a tired man. Jordan. DeAndre Jordan

[elsewhere]

Jazz get Ricky Rubio from Wolves for 1st round pick, damn.

Wtf was Minny thinking? Just when i thought they may make the play-off's now that they got Butler.
Looks like Wolves are angling Lowry, i don't see him being a very good fit there. Also, i suppose Rubio news means George Hill is out of the Jazz.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Jazz get Ricky Rubio from Wolves for 1st round pick, damn.

Wtf was Minny thinking? Just when i thought they may make the play-off's now that they got Butler.
Looks like Wolves are angling Lowry, i don't see him being a very good fit there. Also, i suppose Rubio news means George Hill is out of the Jazz.

gives them around $30m in cap space, must be for a free agent push

to be honest Lowry going there may be best for all parties, lowry gets paid and the raps can either blow it up or retool with a decent amount of cap space

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Is this some kind of hybrid player? - putrid free throw shooter combines with putrid free throw shooter to create Free Throw Airball Shooter?

makes shaq look like Steve Nash from the free throw line

[elsewhere]

Knicks Unlikely To Re-Sign Derrick Rose

Wizards Interested In Otto Porter For Paul George Sign-And-Trade

Jrue Holiday Expected To Sign Five-Year Deal With Pelicans

Fourth Mystery Team Could Schedule Last Minute Meeting With Gordon Hayward

76ers To Sign Furkan Korkmaz For 17-18 Season (under radar signing my countryman is!)

Rockets Interested In Signing Zhou Qi To Long-Term Deal

Warriors Could Have Interest In Dewayne Dedmon

76ers Waive Gerald Henderson

Thunder Interested In Michael Carter-Williams

Klay Thompson Signs 10-Year, $80M Extension With Anta

Cedi Osman Expected To Join Cavaliers For 17-18

Bulls To Waive Rajon Rondo Barring Last Minute Trade

Knicks Unlikely To Request Permission To Speak With Masai Ujiri

Danilo Gallinari, Rudy Gay, Joe Ingles Headline Clippers' Free Agent Wish List

Celtics Tender Qualifying Offer To Kelly Olynyk

John Calipari Reached Out To Knicks About President Opening

Blake Griffin To Meet With Suns On Saturday

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Please pleaase dont sign D Rose, please Pop don't do it. Surely the Rubio trade means Hill is off, and hopefully we're signing him.

[Shaved Crossbar]

Jazz get Ricky Rubio from Wolves for 1st round pick, damn.

Wtf was Minny thinking? Just when i thought they may make the play-off's now that they got Butler.
Looks like Wolves are angling Lowry, i don't see him being a very good fit there. Also, i suppose Rubio news means George Hill is out of the Jazz.

Err... why would you think this is a bad move? I love Rubio but when you're in a half court situation, having him is like playing 4vs5. Jimmy and Wiggins will be completely negated because the opposition just gets a free roam defender to double them whenever. Any possession ending in a Ricky Rubio shot from any distance, even an open lay-up, is a win for the opposition. He shoots an abysmal .480 at the rim - even though I'm betting a lot of those are open - vs a league average of over 60%. He's atrocious from 3 too. This just means that defenders have every desire to sag off him and that reduces so much of the half court options he has.

Playoff games are won in the half court, and his insane passing ability won't make up for his inability to shoot the ball. The advanced stats have him as a completely net neutral player and that's factoring in how RS games are much more open and transition based than playoff games.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Well holy shit, Paul George traded to Oklahoma for Oladipo and Sabonis.

Shit deal for Indiana, but what the hell, out of nowhere, PG goes to OKC. I don't see him staying there next summer,but it's an interesting team to watch now even more. The eastern conference may as well not exist anymore.

Blake resigning with the Clippers, 5 year deal, 173 million

[GreatEx]

Jazz trading OKC's pick for Rubio now looks like a genius move, since that pick will probably be in the late 20's.

[Lastrador]

Err... why would you think this is a bad move? I love Rubio but when you're in a half court situation, having him is like playing 4vs5. Jimmy and Wiggins will be completely negated because the opposition just gets a free roam defender to double them whenever. Any possession ending in a Ricky Rubio shot from any distance, even an open lay-up, is a win for the opposition. He shoots an abysmal .480 at the rim - even though I'm betting a lot of those are open - vs a league average of over 60%. He's atrocious from 3 too. This just means that defenders have every desire to sag off him and that reduces so much of the half court options he has.

Playoff games are won in the half court, and his insane passing ability won't make up for his inability to shoot the ball. The advanced stats have him as a completely net neutral player and that's factoring in how RS games are much more open and transition based than playoff games.

You didn't just paraphrase Jim Petersen did you?



Only kidding mate, but it's damn close to what you just said. I really like Rubio though and I feel this deal must mean the Jazz are looking to trade some of their assets for some scoring as they already added Rubio's elite playmaking and defense for basically nothing. I'm loving the Jazz moves so far, Mitchell and Rubio for Lyles and a late first round pick, fucking steal.

[Lastrador]

And the Paul George trade must really lower the Celtics chances of getting Hayward. They were talking of forming a super team with him, George and Thomas and now that's off the table. Great start for the Jazz.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

the Celtics are a mess.

[Lastrador]

the Celtics are a mess.

But picks man, so many picks.

[Romeo Sensini]

Nice deal for OKC. Dump that Oladipo contract and get Paul George for at least a season.

Ainge has now missed on PG, Butler, and passed on Fultz. With the state of the East, that Nets pick could be crap next season too. If Hayward returns, what a collection of misses.

[Lastrador]

Nice deal for OKC. Dump that Oladipo contract and get Paul George for at least a season.

Ainge has now missed on PG, Butler, and passed on Fultz. With the state of the East, that Nets pick could be crap next season too. If Hayward returns, what a collection of misses.

And the word is that Griffin is signing a new contract with the Clippers, so if Hayward resigns with Utah there's nothing left on the market.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Livingston resigning with the Dubs, Curry agrees five year 201 million deal with Dubs. Spurs resigned Mills, 50 million [not sure how many years]. Hill looking at Denver and New York now.

Teague going to the Wolves.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Nice deal for OKC. Dump that Oladipo contract and get Paul George for at least a season.

Ainge has now missed on PG, Butler, and passed on Fultz. With the state of the East, that Nets pick could be crap next season too. If Hayward returns, what a collection of misses.

its an insane move, but Westbrook I think can opt out next season as well.

[jambutty]

Steph Curry: 5 years @ $40M per.  Guaranteed.

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Steph Curry: 5 years @ $40M per.  Guaranteed.

Well deserved though, he was underpaid his whole career at Warriors due to ankle injury concerns early his career.

Also Livingston 3yrs/24m  signing is a steal, he could have been paid much more with another team.

[Barneylfc∗]

Can he do it on a cold wet night in Stoke though?

[conman]

and he got an exemption to play on a tour golf event. It's been a good week for Steph

[Shaved Crossbar]

I really like Rubio though and I feel this deal must mean the Jazz are looking to trade some of their assets for some scoring as they already added Rubio's elite playmaking and defense for basically nothing. I'm loving the Jazz moves so far, Mitchell and Rubio for Lyles and a late first round pick, fucking steal.

Think he said it a bit more concisely than me, but our view on Rubio isn't unoriginal, heard it a few times and easy to come to those conclusions after seeing him play. It is a shame though because he's a great defender and an outrageous passer. I see where you're coming from though haha!

[Shaved Crossbar]

Also Livingston 3yrs/24m  signing is a steal, he could have been paid much more with another team.

Agreed, as a LeBron fan he's pissed me off so much these last 3 years

So far in the league he's earned 26m dollars, he's getting another 24m here but if Patty Mills is getting a 50m deal (albeit one more year) then Livingston could have commanded at least that.

[BarryCrocker]

Gets $1m per week playing other peoples shit.

[rob1966]

[SandyShore]

Smart by OKC to trade Oladipo, if George and Westbrook bolt next season they can rebuild with better flexibility regarding their cap space.

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Err... why would you think this is a bad move? I love Rubio but when you're in a half court situation, having him is like playing 4vs5. Jimmy and Wiggins will be completely negated because the opposition just gets a free roam defender to double them whenever. Any possession ending in a Ricky Rubio shot from any distance, even an open lay-up, is a win for the opposition. He shoots an abysmal .480 at the rim - even though I'm betting a lot of those are open - vs a league average of over 60%. He's atrocious from 3 too. This just means that defenders have every desire to sag off him and that reduces so much of the half court options he has.

Playoff games are won in the half court, and his insane passing ability won't make up for his inability to shoot the ball. The advanced stats have him as a completely net neutral player and that's factoring in how RS games are much more open and transition based than playoff games.

He is the best passing PG in the league and one of the elite defenders amongs the guards. I am not saying he doesn't have a jump shot problem, but the deal is still thrash imo. Good deal for Utah, Rodney, Hayward(?), Gobert will have a lot of easy points this season.

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Smart by OKC to trade Oladipo, if George and Westbrook bolt next season they can rebuild with better flexibility regarding their cap space.

Russ seems to be the loyal type, i think he signs a supermax deal and stays. As for PG, he made it clear several times that he is off to Lakers next summer and that's why the return was not the best for Pacers  vs a sign and trade. So, basically he is at OKC this yeat as rental. It will be great for laughs though if he skips the Lakers and signs with OKC

[elsewhere]

So Minny basically shipped out Rubio to pay Jeff Teague 57m for 3 years?
Mediocre defender, overrated offensively, doesn't make teammates better, just a bad fit imo.

[elsewhere]

Jrue Holiday Agrees Upon Five-Year, $126M Deal With Pelicans

Damn, will take me some time to get used to these new money deals

[Shaved Crossbar]

He is the best passing PG in the league and one of the elite defenders amongs the guards. I am not saying he doesn't have a jump shot problem, but the deal is still thrash imo. Good deal for Utah, Rodney, Hayward(?), Gobert will have a lot of easy points this season.

And they'll have a lot of harder points too because they'll be playing against an extra man

[Shaved Crossbar]

Point guard market now is basically George Hill and Kyle Lowry

Raps apparently seriously considering breaking everything apart and just going young; could be a good move because I think youngsters + DeMar + one of Tucker and Ibaka could probably get them to the playoffs and they'll still be giving a lot of time to some decent young players. Don't think the DeMar-Lowry axis is ever going to be enough to get to the finals, let alone win them.

[LFC_1981]

Only just seen Paul George to Thunder. Wow. Thunder practically gave up nothing to get him.

[LiverLuke]

they only have him for a year, pacers due to poor management were in a terrible bargaining position.

[LFC_1981]

Oh yeah forgot about that. Him and James at Lakers this time next summer.

[Lastrador]

they only have him for a year, pacers due to poor management were in a terrible bargaining position.

They had better offers but apparently their GM was dead set on trading him out of the east conference, horrible decision.

[SandyShore]

Sixes get Reddick, they making playoffs next season.

Also Boston have funked their off season completely, the current favourite for Gordon Hayward are the Miami Heat.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Sixes get Reddick, they making playoffs next season.

Also Boston have funked their off season completely, the current favourite for Gordon Hayward are the Miami Heat.

but they still have their draft picks!