Topic: Typhoid Trump: the not-smart, corrupt, coward, loser, thread

[coolbyrne]

The way how he (and she) muses when talking about missiles and war and an attack that was not approved by congress or any other instance, the way he delights in it is revolting. Such a despicable man and such as despicable network.

Brian Williams fucking quoted LEONARD COHEN at the sight of the missiles launching.

I am guided by the beauty of our weapons.

Fuck off, you lying fucktard. http://www.businessinsider.com/what-brian-williams-has-lied-about-2015-2

[Trada]

[mallin9]

Brian Williams fucking quoted LEONARD COHEN at the sight of the missiles launching.

I am guided by the beauty of our weapons.

Fuck off, you lying fucktard. http://www.businessinsider.com/what-brian-williams-has-lied-about-2015-2

Brian Williams can absolutely go pound sand.  Lying asshole. His daughters show is crap too, while we're not on the topic....


Switching gears....
Carter Page & Paul Manafort. These two especially at present look likely to either end up in prison or singing on their higher ups. I find it curious that Carter Page (and Roger Stone to a degree) seemingly can't help himself from going on national TV and drawing attention to just how shady he and his stories are.  "I have a flimsy story with a lot of holes in it, a 5 star dumpster fire ability to 'think' on my feet and treason charges awaiting should my lies be exposed........somebody get me in front of another camera NOW!"

Even the little, little things.....default settting: lie until pants catch on fire ."I can barely get along in Russian"......quote followed by clips of him conversing fluently in Russian....

[BarryCrocker]

Trump says 'NATO no longer obsolete'...

Amazing isn't it, he starts finishing out how the world runs and he changes his tune...

A dangerous idiot.

Quite cunning use of words by Don.

He actually said "I complained about that a long time ago, and they made a change - and now they do fight terrorism," Trump said. "I said it was obsolete. It's no longer obsolete."

What he's actually saying is that due to his complaints, NATO has now changed their focus and are now key to fighting terrorism.

[GreatEx]

And next year, when people realise that ACA is doing good things for them, it'll be: "everyone wanted to get rid of Trumpcare. 'Repeal and Replace!' they said. But I knew better. No one else knew, but I knew, it was a tremendous, it was a great plan, and I made it, and it's great and everyone loves it. And I pulled the vote because I knew this, and everyone else didn't know it, and I didn't not know it, and I'm tremendous, believe me. And and and... no one thought I could win the election, no one, and I won and it was the biggest landslide in history and and - SWEDEN, WHO KNEW? - nobody knew, nobody knew, and I picked Brexit".

[Red Beret]

NYC Judge found dead in the Hudson River.  Just saying.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Police-Remove-Woman-From-Hudson-River-in-Harlem-419318134.html?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

The first black woman appointed to New York State's highest court, and the first Muslim woman to serve as a U.S. judge, was found dead in the Hudson River off Manhattan on Wednesday afternoon, authorities said.

Justice Sheila Abdus-Salaam was found unresponsive in the water shortly before 2 p.m., according to police. Her body showed no obvious signs of trauma, and police declined to speculate on the cause of her death.

NYPD officers were responding to reports of a person floating in the river near West 132nd Street and Henry Hudson Parkway when they found her, authorities said. Her body was taken to the medical examiner's office in Kips Bay, where the exact cause of her death can be determined.

Abdus-Salaam's husband left the couple's home in Harlem on Wednesday night escorted by police and a church bishop.

The 65-year-old Manhattan resident was elected to the Supreme Court of the State of New York in 1993, where she remained until 2009. She was serving on the New York State Court of Appeals, the highest court in New York State, before her death. She was appointed to the position by Gov. Andrew Cuomo in 2013.

Cuomo called her a "pioneer" and a "force for good whose legacy will be felt for years to come" in a statement Wednesday.

[Red Beret]

And also today, in Donald gets stuff explained to him by the fucking President of China (and then tells the world about it):

It's like when your kid runs home from school to tell you that today they learned what two plus two makes, and you have to act all surprised and impressed.

[Red Beret]

Switching gears....
Carter Page & Paul Manafort. These two especially at present look likely to either end up in prison or singing on their higher ups. I find it curious that Carter Page (and Roger Stone to a degree) seemingly can't help himself from going on national TV and drawing attention to just how shady he and his stories are.  "I have a flimsy story with a lot of holes in it, a 5 star dumpster fire ability to 'think' on my feet and treason charges awaiting should my lies be exposed........somebody get me in front of another camera NOW!"

Maybe it's a "come and get me" plea to the FBI - trying to hint about what they know so they can cut a deal?  Except what they know the FBI probably already knows as well, seeing how long they've been tracking these morons...

[kennedy81]

Trump backs off fiscal pledges and adopts centrist policies that he once fought

...The statements represent a move toward the economic policies of more centrist Republicans and even at times align with the approach of former president Barack Obama. Should he follow through on the newly articulated positions, it would suggest that the candidate who ran as the ultimate outsider is increasingly adopting a more moderate economic agenda...

...The rapid shuffle of priorities comes as he adopts a growing number of centrist policies, many of which the Obama administration tried to advance amid heated GOP opposition for years...

...Trump’s embrace of moderate positions also suggests a waning influence among the hard-line nationalist White House advisers who helped Trump win the election, as well as the rise of other advisers — many of whom hail from New York — who have more centrist, even left-leaning views...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-takes-a-centrist-tack-on-economic-policy-abandoning-campaign-pledges/2017/04/12/95376192-1fc3-11e7-be2a-3a1fb24d4671_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpmoney750pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.207fd2bce03c

Trump on NATO: ‘I said it was obsolete. It’s no longer obsolete.’

...“I complained about that a long time ago, and they made a change — and now they do fight terrorism,” Trump said. “I said it was obsolete. It's no longer obsolete.”..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/04/12/trump-on-nato-i-said-it-was-obsolete-its-no-longer-obsolete/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpnato717pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.35ccac9defb2

[Red Beret]

    Trump backs off fiscal pledges and adopts centrist policies that he once fought

    ...The statements represent a move toward the economic policies of more centrist Republicans and even at times align with the approach of former president Barack Obama. Should he follow through on the newly articulated positions, it would suggest that the candidate who ran as the ultimate outsider is increasingly adopting a more moderate economic agenda...

    ...The rapid shuffle of priorities comes as he adopts a growing number of centrist policies, many of which the Obama administration tried to advance amid heated GOP opposition for years...

    ...Trump’s embrace of moderate positions also suggests a waning influence among the hard-line nationalist White House advisers who helped Trump win the election, as well as the rise of other advisers — many of whom hail from New York — who have more centrist, even left-leaning views...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-takes-a-centrist-tack-on-economic-policy-abandoning-campaign-pledges/2017/04/12/95376192-1fc3-11e7-be2a-3a1fb24d4671_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpmoney750pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.207fd2bce03c

Well it's been said that Trump has been more of a Democrat in his life, and we know Jared definitely is one.  I think this is a case of Trump literally "adopting" policies because he doesn't actually have many of his own, or knows how to develop them.  It would make sense that the policies he settles on would align with his natural political instincts, feeble as they are.

If the Republicans sense a cuckoo in the nest we might find their aggression towards leakers and their caginess on Trump's Russian connections undergo a bit of a flip flop.

[Garrus]

Maybe it's just been a genius plan from the Democrats since day one:

Have a man who campaigns to the lowest common denominator, become extremely popular among the Republican voter base and then have him about turn and pass centrist policies which Republicans would be forced to pass in order to keep their seats. All this, plus the implosion of the GOP from 2018 onwards 

[PaulF]

Hi, bit of a late catch up, but whats the main cause of the hate on spicer and hitler chem weapons comments? I am guessing hitler did use them somewhere?

[cloggypop]

Hi, bit of a late catch up, but whats the main cause of the hate on spicer and hitler chem weapons comments? I am guessing hitler did use them somewhere?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

[Alan_X]

Hi, bit of a late catch up, but whats the main cause of the hate on spicer and hitler chem weapons comments? I am guessing hitler did use them somewhere?

In the 'Holocaust Centres*'

*copyright Sean Spicer

[Corkboy]

Hi, bit of a late catch up, but whats the main cause of the hate on spicer and hitler chem weapons comments? I am guessing hitler did use them somewhere?

An estimated six million times.

[Ray K]

An estimated six million times.

I think it was Heydrich who suggested using gas as 'it would not do to waste bullets'.

[TepidT2O]

Fritz Haber...

Possibly the most divisive figure in history.

Helped develop the gases that killed millions, yet helped developed a process to make artificial fertilisers which have saved even more millions.

[PaulF]

In the 'Holocaust Centres*'

*copyright Sean Spicer

  hanging head in shame at not considering that. 😢

[Haemoglobin]

It's either simple straightforward ignorance of historical detail (I thought absolutely everyone nowadays would know what Zyklon B was, for example, but if stuff like that wasn't taught in your school - or you just weren't paying any attention - then I guess you might easily take talk of the "ovens" the victims of the Holocaust were sent into a little too literally, oblivious to their use of lethal chemicals), or maybe a bit of an innocent mental block like PaulF there, where you're only considering the use of chemical weapons strictly in the WWI sense, being dispersed 'out in the field' on the people in that area.

It's forgivable for an ordinary citizen, not so for the White House Press Secretary.

[newrosswaterford]

An estimated six million times.

The product is infamous for its use by Nazi Germany during the Holocaust to murder approximately one million people in gas chambers installed at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, and other extermination camps.

Less than that it appears. Thought it was more myself.

[Chakan]

Spicer still not fired huh, gives him license now to say anything he wants...

[Craig S]

The product is infamous for its use by Nazi Germany during the Holocaust to murder approximately one million people in gas chambers installed at Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, and other extermination camps.

Less than that it appears. Thought it was more myself.

I'm guessing that's a partial quote that refers to Zyklon-B, as it mentions a "product". So those are only deaths attributed to Zyklon-B.
They also used pure carbon monoxide that they manufactured just for this reason, and Carbon Monoxide piped back in from truck exhausts.

At Auschwitz alone, more than 1 million people were killed by gassing, of various forms.

[The Gulleysucker]

Bełżec, Sobibor and Treblinka used petrol or diesel engine fumes.

[jambutty]

In his Bartiromo interview he was saying how the US military has 5x more power than anyone. "Rockets fired from HUNDREDS of miles away! (at Iraq yet)" Fucking moron.

Then, remembering his condemnation of how BO had run down the military, backed off and said we were going to give them even more because they'd suffered budget cuts.

This man would deffo divulge top secret info to a fawning interviewer.

[jambutty]

Too bad Trump didn't wait until after Xi explained why China can't do much about N Korea before he spent billions sending the carrier group there.

[Chakan]

Too bad Trump didn't wait until after Xi explained why China can't do much about N Korea before he spent billions sending the carrier group there.

To be fair to Trump brushing his teeth is a lot more complicated than he thought, N Korea and the China situation must be like explaining quantum physics to a rock.

[Garrus]

https://twitter.com/MyDaughtersArmy/status/852516106891919360

Jeffrey Lord calling Donald Trump the MLK of healthcare 

What a nutter.

[CornerFlag]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia

British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia

Exclusive: GCHQ is said to have alerted US agencies after becoming aware of contacts in 2015

Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.

GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.

It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.

The issue of GCHQ’s role in the FBI’s ongoing investigation into possible cooperation between the Trump campaign and Moscow is highly sensitive. In March Trump tweeted that Barack Obama had illegally “wiretapped” him in Trump Tower.

The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, falsely claimed the “British spying agency” GCHQ had carried out the bugging. Spicer cited an unsubstantiated report on Fox News. Fox later distanced itself from the report.

The erroneous claims prompted an extremely unusual rebuke from GCHQ, which generally refrains from commenting on all intelligence matters. The agency described the allegations first made by a former judge turned media commentator, Andrew Napolitano, as “nonsense”.

“They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored,” a spokesperson for GCHQ said.

Instead both US and UK intelligence sources acknowledge that GCHQ played an early, prominent role in kickstarting the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation, which began in late July 2016.

One source called the British eavesdropping agency the “principal whistleblower”.

The Guardian has been told the FBI and the CIA were slow to appreciate the extensive nature of contacts between Trump’s team and Moscow ahead of the US election. This was in part due to US law that prohibits US agencies from examining the private communications of American citizens without warrants. “They are trained not to do this,” the source stressed.

“It looks like the [US] agencies were asleep,” the source added. “They [the European agencies] were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.’

“The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.’”

According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.

In late August and September Brennan gave a series of classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them the agency had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump to win the presidency, the New York Times reported.

One person familiar with the matter said Brennan did not reveal sources but made reference to the fact that America’s intelligence allies had provided information. Trump subsequently learned of GCHQ’s role, the person said.

The person described US intelligence as being “very late to the game”. The FBI’s director, James Comey, altered his position after the election and Trump’s victory, becoming “more affirmative” and with a “higher level of concern”.

Comey’s apparent shift may have followed a mid-October decision by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court to approve a secret surveillance order. The order gave permission for the justice department to investigate two banks suspected of being part of the Kremlin’s undercover influence operation.

According to the BBC, the justice department’s request came after a tipoff from an intelligence agency in one of the Baltic states. This is believed to be Estonia.

The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that the same order covered Carter Page, one of Trump’s associates. It allowed the FBI and the justice department to monitor Page’s communications. Page, a former foreign policy aide, was suspected of being an agent of influence working for Russia, the paper said, citing US officials.

The application covered contacts Page allegedly had in 2013 with a Russian foreign intelligence agent, and other undisclosed meetings with Russian operatives, the Post said. Page denies wrongdoing and complained of “unjustified, politically motivated government surveillance”.

Late last year Comey threw more FBI resources into what became a far-reaching counter-intelligence investigation. In March he confirmed before the House intelligence committee that the agency was examining possible cooperation between Moscow and members of the Trump campaign to sway the US election.

Comey and the NSA director, Admiral Michael Rogers, said there was no basis for the president’s claim that he was a victim of Obama “wiretapping”. Trump had likened the unproven allegation to “McCarthyism”.

Britain’s MI6 spy agency played a part in intelligence sharing with the US, one source said. MI6 declined to comment. Its former chief Sir Richard Dearlove described Trump’s wiretapping claim on Thursday as “simply deeply embarrassing for Trump and the administration”.

“The only possible explanation is that Trump started tweeting without understanding how the NSA-GCHQ relationship actually works,” Dearlove told Prospect magazine.

A GCHQ spokesperson said: “It is longstanding policy that we do not comment on intelligence matters”.

It is unclear which individuals were picked up by British surveillance.

In a report last month the New York Times, citing three US intelligence officials, said warning signs had been building throughout last summer but were far from clear. As WikiLeaks published emails stolen from the Democratic national committee, US agencies began picking up conversations in which Russians were discussing contacts with Trump associates, the paper said.

European allies were supplying information about people close to Trump meeting with Russians in Britain, the Netherlands and in other countries, the Times said.

There are now multiple investigations going on in Washington into Trump campaign officials and Russia. They include the FBI-led counter-espionage investigation and probes by both the House and Senate intelligence committees.

Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House committee, has expressed an interest in hearing from Christopher Steele, the former MI6 officer whose dossier accuses the president of long-term cooperation with Vladimir Putin’s Moscow. Trump and Putin have both dismissed the dossier as fake.

One source suggested the official investigation was making progress. “They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion,” the source said. “This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material.”

Oh come on and just impeach the fucking Wotsit.

[Trada]

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[Red Beret]

The Guardian has been told the FBI and the CIA were slow to appreciate the extensive nature of contacts between Trump’s team and Moscow ahead of the US election. This was in part due to US law that prohibits US agencies from examining the private communications of American citizens without warrants. “They are trained not to do this,” the source stressed.

“It looks like the [US] agencies were asleep,” the source added. “They [the European agencies] were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.’

“The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.’”

But - Hilary.  Emails. etc etc...

[Ray K]

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Jeffrey Lord is stupid enough to actually work for the Trump Administration.  And I can think of no higher/lower praise than that.

[Chakan]

 David Wright‏ @DavidWright_CNN 22m22 minutes ago
Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb, MOAB, targeting ISIS in Nangarhar, Afghanistan -- first ever combat use

Welcome to the end of days people.

[Red Beret]

David Wright‏ @DavidWright_CNN 22m22 minutes ago
Breaking: US military has dropped most powerful non-nuclear US bomb, MOAB, targeting ISIS in Nangarhar, Afghanistan -- first ever combat use

Welcome to the end of days people.

But - Assad.  Barrel bombs.  Etc etc.

EDIT: For those curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast

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Apparently there are only 15 known units in existence.  Blast yield is 11 tons TNT.  Russia says it has developed a bomb four times as powerful though.

[Trada]

So hes only one step away from using nukes now.

[TepidT2O]

Depends what it's been used for, there might be a specific target such as a bunker they're trying to penetrate..

[Romeo Sensini]

I would not be surprised if this was an attempt to send a message to the DPRK.

[Red Beret]

Depends what it's been used for, there might be a specific target such as a bunker they're trying to penetrate..

It's not a penetrator.  Wiki describes it as for soft surface targets.  Youtube vids suggest it could wipe out an entire moderately sized camp in a single hit, or channel a blast wave through a canyon system.

It's more of a terror weapon, with limited battlefield utility.  There's not much it can do that you couldn't do with smaller, fighter mounted bombs, or high altitude based carpet bombing.  Seems more of a pissing contest to me.  The President of the United States of America has his orange dick out and he's waggling it at the world.

[TepidT2O]

Trying to flush ISIS out of caves apparently ... seems fit for the task...

[cloggypop]

Carter Who?

[Red Beret]

Carter Who?

Pushing his impeachment and imprisonment to page five of the Washington Post wont make it any less valid.