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The Germans and even the Dutch IIRC have factories with Weapons Grade Uranium and plenty of Plutonium available as well as the knowledge to weaponise them. They already have suitable delivery systems.

Again IIRC, I believe Germany actually has more Uranium than countries like India and Iran which are considered Nuclear Powers, they are SUPER anti Nuclear weapons though but Merkel has been changing her tune towards that as a deterrent may be required

The issue of making nukes is a political one though yes?  How quickly and dangerously does the international situation have to deteriorate before Merkel orders the construction of nuclear weapons?  How long would it take?  Then to mate them to delivery systems and hope the whole thing works?  I'd say that's a minimum of two years.

nobody gonna risk nuclear war,it would game over for our entire civilization and even most hardcore war hawks realize that.

Tell that to the President Elect who asked no less than three times during a briefing on the nuclear deterrent why the US just couldn't use nukes.

Let's face it, everything we thought we knew about diplomacy, international relations, democracy, nukes, conventional wars - it's all gone out the window.  Almost anything could literally happen now.
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I wonder how many protests there will be on Friday.
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Tell that to the President Elect who asked no less than three times during a briefing on the nuclear deterrent why the US just couldn't use nukes.


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The issue of making nukes is a political one though yes?  How quickly and dangerously does the international situation have to deteriorate before Merkel orders the construction of nuclear weapons?  How long would it take?  Then to mate them to delivery systems and hope the whole thing works?  I'd say that's a minimum of two years.

Tell that to the President Elect who asked no less than three times during a briefing on the nuclear deterrent why the US just couldn't use nukes.

Let's face it, everything we thought we knew about diplomacy, international relations, democracy, nukes, conventional wars - it's all gone out the window.  Almost anything could literally happen now.
Trump is idiot and i doubt he is capable to be commander and chief of biggest military machine in human history but dont think even he is that retarded to just starting launching nukes,certainly i hope you have enough reasonable people in your chain of command to oppose that kind of thing.But yeah that guy is unpredictable,unbelivable failure of democracy that someone like him get in power in world sole superpower
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Huh?

That's true.  He was in a State Dept briefing during the summer on ISIS, and three times he asked why they couldn't use nukes on them, and why did they have so many nukes if they weren't going to use them?
The briefer ignored him like you'd ignore a particularly stupid child making pointless interruptions.

The particularly stupid child will control the nuclear codes in about 70 hours from now..
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Trump is idiot and i doubt he is capable to be commander and chief of biggest military machine in human history but dont think even he is that retarded to just starting launching nukes,certainly i hope you have enough reasonable people in your chain of command to oppose that kind of thing.But yeah that guy is unpredictable,unbelivable failure of democracy that someone like him get in power in world sole superpower

I don't know, I want to agree with you but Trump is also a climate change denier, so someone of that level of intelligence may not understand the true damage that a nuclear weapon can do and how long it lasts, he might just think it's a really really powerful bomb, yes I am seeing it in really simple terms but I really do believe he is that kind of man.


It still baffles me that someone with zero political background, at 70 years of age, is to become the President of the USA... no experience, old in the sense he's kinda like racist grandpa some people have... and he's running a huge country with a huge arsenal...FML

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I don't know, I want to agree with you but Trump is also a climate change denier, so someone of that level of intelligence may not understand the true damage that a nuclear weapon can do and how long it lasts, he might just think it's a really really powerful bomb, yes I am seeing it in really simple terms but I really do believe he is that kind of man.


It still baffles me that someone with zero political background, at 70 years of age, is to become the President of the USA... no experience, old in the sense he's kinda like racist grandpa some people have... and he's running a huge country with a huge arsenal...FML
Well if you look better in modern american culture,they opssesed with reality shows and stars,adoration of those kardashian girls and similar persons,its not great surpise that real life reality populist caricature win in the end.Hitler was promising germans that he make germany great again,we know how that ended,we see how trump gonna end up.Who knows maybe CIA gonna finish him like kennedy ;)
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Trump is idiot and i doubt he is capable to be commander and chief of biggest military machine in human history but dont think even he is that retarded to just starting launching nukes,certainly i hope you have enough reasonable people in your chain of command to oppose that kind of thing.But yeah that guy is unpredictable,unbelivable failure of democracy that someone like him get in power in world sole superpower

I very much doubt that the president has the sole final say on launching nukes.

Sadly it's not an unbelievable failure of democracy, it's entirely believable. You can not expect democracy to effectively make reasonable decisions when the electorate are not given the truth; i.e verifiable facts from a legitimate source, that would of course be experts, who people refuse to believe (showing how stupid the majority are),  with which to make their decisions.
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I very much doubt that the president has the sole final say on launching nukes.

Not far off it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Command_Authority

Fortunately the procedure of using the codes is child safe so Trump won't be able to manage it without a supervising adult https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Codes
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Not far off it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Command_Authority

Fortunately the procedure of using the codes is child safe so Trump won't be able to manage it without a supervising adult https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Codes

Wow that is fucking insanity. Surely you can't give that much power to one man, esp one who has no idea of military tactics or strategic needs.
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Wow that is fucking insanity. Surely you can't give that much power to one man, esp one who has no idea of military tactics or strategic needs.

The American people have voted and they trust him. Scary huh.

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Wow that is fucking insanity. Surely you can't give that much power to one man, esp one who has no idea of military tactics or strategic needs.

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Not far off it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Command_Authority

Fortunately the procedure of using the codes is child safe so Trump won't be able to manage it without a supervising adult https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Codes

Interesting NY Times article on this
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/science/donald-trump-nuclear-codes.html?_r=1

The commander in chief can also order the first use of nuclear weapons even if the United States is not under nuclear attack.

“There’s no veto once the president has ordered a strike,” said Franklin C. Miller, a nuclear specialist who held White House and Defense Department posts for 31 years before leaving government service in 2005. “The president and only the president has the authority to order the use of nuclear weapons.”


Some scholars (and Wikipedia entries) insist that a system of checks and balances puts the secretary of defense in the decision loop. But Bruce G. Blair, a research scholar at Princeton University who as an Air Force officer would have launched a nuclear missile if an order had come from the president, said that rule applied in the silos but not at the top of the command chain.

“There’s nothing the secretary of defense can do,” Dr. Blair, who wrote a book on nuclear command and control, said in an interview. “He has no authority to refuse or disobey that order.”

Mr. Sagan, the Stanford expert, agreed, but noted that there were other ways for the secretary of defense to slow things down. “I think we’d be in uncharted waters if a president ordered the use of nuclear weapons and the secretary of defense refused to concur,” he said. “This has never happened.” No one, he added, could predict what would ensue if the nation’s top defense official tried to declare that the president was unfit to issue such an order.

“In some scenarios,” Mr. Sagan added, “such as an unprovoked nuclear attack by a president in peacetime, a constitutional crisis would be more likely than a prompt following of rules regarding succession and command authority.”
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“In some scenarios,” Mr. Sagan added, “such as an unprovoked nuclear attack by a president in peacetime, a constitutional crisis would be more likely than a prompt following of rules regarding succession and command authority.”

This is what I'd hope would happen. Stop the idiot and face the consequences.
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This is what I'd hope would happen. Stop the idiot and face the consequences.

You'd presume there is a reason more than 1 person needs to be in the loop, for this type of thing.

Madness we're even talking like this hey

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Well if you look better in modern american culture,they opssesed with reality shows and stars,adoration of those kardashian girls and similar persons,its not great surpise that real life reality populist caricature win in the end.Hitler was promising germans that he make germany great again,we know how that ended,we see how trump gonna end up.Who knows maybe CIA gonna finish him like kennedy ;)

Two things - Hitler's rule ended up with the deaths of 60 million people (minimum), and the CIA didn't kill Kennedy.

You may be joking but believing the Kennedy conspiracy is a first step towards the belief in conspiracies and abandoning critical thinking. And that eventually leads to Trump...
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The CIA doesn't have to finish off Trump.  They could just hear about a plot and forget to tell him.  Not like he'd listen anyway. :P
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Two things - Hitler's rule ended up with the deaths of 60 million people (minimum), and the CIA didn't kill Kennedy.

You may be joking but believing the Kennedy conspiracy is a first step towards the belief in conspiracies and abandoning critical thinking. And that eventually leads to Trump...
Yeah Harvey Oswald killed kennedy,please.Im not conspiracy lunatic nor i do care too much but certainly someone powerfull in america was behind murder.

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I wonder how many protests there will be on Friday.
I suspect they might get quite heated...

Probably a bad thing, but I can see why people might be extremely angry..
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There's a planned protest on Thursday by some Hollywood folk.

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Yeah Harvey Oswald killed kennedy,please.Im not conspiracy lunatic nor i do care too much but certainly someone powerfull in america was behind murder.

Now you say you're not a conspiracy lunatic but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...........

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da fuq??

Maybe he should go all the way back to fucking Columbus? 
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C4 news just said there maybe more allegations against Trump in the next hour or 2.
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What does that even mean? Just because there were good presidents in history you have to respect Trump or can't criticise him? That's like saying because Maine Governour Paul LePage is a fucking idiot who deserves a kick in the bollocks everybody living in Maine is a fucking idiot and deserves a kick in the bollocks.

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C4 news just said there maybe more allegations against Trump in the next hour or 2.
Very difficult to sue him successfully I fear...


Even if he lost I reckon he would survive... 
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What does that even mean? Just because there were good presidents in history you have to respect Trump or can't criticise him? That's like saying because Maine Governour Paul LePage is a fucking idiot who deserves a kick in the bollocks everybody living in Maine is a fucking idiot and deserves a kick in the bollocks.

He's say black people should be nicer to Republicans because some Republicans were good 200 years ago.
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C4 news just said there maybe more allegations against Trump in the next hour or 2.

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Yeah Harvey Oswald killed kennedy,please.Im not conspiracy lunatic nor i do care too much but certainly someone powerfull in america was behind murder.

I can tell the by way you fail to capitalise names - including your own - and don't use spaces after your commas and full stops that you are vulnerable to conspiracy theories.

Fortunately you "don't care too much" and therefore you probably won't be spreading your crazy ideas. That's good.
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D.C. Braces for Tens of Thousands of Protesters During Trump’s Inauguration Week

by Phil McCausland

Donald Trump's voice won't be the only one heard at this year's inauguration.

Tens of thousands of people are preparing to hit the streets of Washington D.C. during the 45th president's inaugural week. While some will march in support of the president or various causes, a growing number will be on hand to show their opposition to the newly elected president and his administration.

he National Park Service has provided 22 permits for First Amendment events that will take place over inauguration week on park service land that includes the National Mall and the White House. Each protest ranges in size from 50 people to 200,000, however, any protest less than 25 people does not require a permit.

 "The permit applications we received this year are a considerable uptick," Mike Litterst, public affairs officer of the National Mall and Memorial Parks, said, adding that they typically have only provided about a half dozen for past inaugurations.

D.C.'s Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management has been preparing for the protests and the inauguration crowds since April. They're expecting 800,000 - 900,000 people to attend overall, which is significantly less than Obama's inauguration in 2009 that drew 1.8 million and forced the city into gridlock.

And the DHS will continue to examine hotel occupancy rates, buses and social media sites to try to gain a better understanding of the crowd's potential size as initial estimates could change.

 Christopher Geldart, the director of the D.C. Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, said that 3,200 police officers from across the country will be on the parade route to provide security. Obama's first inauguration had 2,500, and his second had 3,000. Inauguration security expenses are expected to exceed $100 million this year.

The largest protest is expected to come the day after Trump's inauguration. According to the permit they acquired for 200,000 demonstrators and the responses they've received via social media, the Women's March on Washington is predicted to draw hundreds of thousands of protesters in the nation's capital on Jan. 21, although there will be corresponding protests across the country.

"It's quite noteworthy. If they get those kinds of numbers, it will far exceed any previous inaugural protest," said Inaugural Historian Jim Bendat, author of "Democracy's Big Day: The Inauguration of Our President, 1789-2013."

Related: Immigrant Groups Rally Around Country as Message to Trump

Bendat noted that the women's march reflects a similar demonstration in the early 20th century. A day prior to the first inauguration of Woodrow Wilson, 5,000 to 8,000 suffragists got a parade permit and marched down Pennsylvania Avenue demanding the women's right to vote.

"If you think about it, that's a lot of people for that era given transportation difficulties," Bendat said.

Ben Becker, an activist helping to organize the ANSWER Coalition's two prominent protests along the inaugural parade route, said it is unsurprising that there is this much interest in demonstrations opposed to the incoming administration.

While he said his organization applied for permits a year ago and planned to protest no matter the victor, entire communities were energized to share their disapproval of Trump.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/d-c-braced-900-000-protesters-during-trump-s-inauguration-n707226
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What does that even mean?

It means Trump has just lost the South.
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I can tell the by way you fail to capitalise names - including your own - and don't use spaces after your commas and full stops that you are vulnerable to conspiracy theories.

Fortunately you "don't care too much" and therefore you probably won't be spreading your crazy ideas. That's good.
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Yeah Harvey Oswald killed kennedy,please.Im not conspiracy lunatic nor i do care too much but certainly someone powerfull in america was behind murder.

There is no evidence that anyone other than Oswald killed Kennedy. I know all the theories and I also know where they are wrong. The people who pushed the Kennedy story, just like the Truthers and the Birthers and the rest have done immeasurable damage to public trust. There's a difference between being skeptical and checking what our governments are up to, and being completely credulous.
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Ignore him  kaiser, yorky is clearly thicker than pigswill he swallows everything the media tells him, i just pity him, winks.
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He's say black people should be nicer to Republicans because some Republicans were good 200 years ago.

Maybe he means that black people should know their place and thank the white folks.
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There is no evidence that anyone other than Oswald killed Kennedy. I know all the theories and I also know where they are wrong. The people who pushed the Kennedy story, just like the Truthers and the Birthers and the rest have done immeasurable damage to public trust. There's a difference between being skeptical and checking what our governments are up to, and being completely credulous.
Im certainly skeptical that Oswald killed him,it just seem too convenient.But i guess beliving in conspiracies is part of my balkan mentality,we see conspiracies in everything :)
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Well im not believer in any conspiracy but certainly skeptical that Oswald killed him,it just seem too convenient.

The second half of the sentence completely destroys the first!
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