Topic: Max Clifford gets 8 years in jail & Add Now ROLF GUILTY

[AndyInVA]

I didnt think hoping he dies in jail was particularly OTT either. His victims have lived with his abuse for years to a greater or lesser extent on their personal lives.

His sentence is staggeringly low. Hoping the system breaks him and suffers the mental pain of being in jail after conducting years and years of abuse safe in the knowledge he was getting away with it is something im fine with.

my dad sent me this, this morning

As the door of his cell slams shut behind him and the lights go out Rolf Harris puts his head in his hands.  He thinks of what he has done and begins to cry.  Suddenly behind him a voice sings "Did you think I would leave you crying when there's room in my bunk for two"

[Skidder.]

http://newsthump.com/2012/10/16/editor-responsible-for-cutting-paedophiles-out-of-top-of-the-pops-repeats-hospitalised-with-exhaustion/

[Sir Harvest Fields]

These fucknuggets deserve everything they get. If they are crying its because they have been caught, not because of shame or guilt. The c*nts know whats coming and i hope its all they deserve.


As an ' adult ' i used to watch him and i loved his stuff. Same with Saville. Then they turn out to be the scum i despised so much as a kid. I best leave this thread but i will leave it on this note.


I hope the c*nts die in jail. I hope they have their eyes gouged out, their faces split open , their arses torn open and i hope whomever does it, does it with a fucking smile cos ill buy his beer. Fucking filthy c*nts.

[The Gulleysucker]

.... another innocent party in this all.

Not that this should suggest either guilt or innocence but perhaps it could illuminate attitudes that may have been prevalent back then and point to an explanation,  but my Wife and I were talking about this the other month before the trial and we both remembered reading an article in some magazine many moons ago, an interview with Rolf and his Wife, and we both recollected that in it they had said that they had a bit of an 'open' marriage. I think the very 70's word swingers might even have been employed conjuring up images of pampas grass in the front garden and car keys being thrown into a bowl on the table parties sort of thing. I've been trying to find a reference to it on the web but no luck so far though since it was from back in the late 80's early 90's it mightn't be up anywhere, but we're pretty sure it's not our imagination.

[Mouth]

I always wonder about things like this

was she truly innocent

did she know more than she ever let on or did she convince herself that he wasnt what she thought he may have been

I havnt read anywhere that she was complicit in any way

but for me anyway, you have to wonder what a spouse knows

personally I find it hard to describe her as quite innocent given how long he has been doing this and that at some point the whole family knew about his affair with his daughters best friend

I think she knew

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/rolf-harris-revelations-sickened-me-lynda-bryans-on-her-former-animal-hospital-costar-and-how-his-wife-was-always-watching-him-30411085.html

[Brian Blessed]

She probably knew of affairs, but not neccessarily that he's a paedo.

[Mouth]

She probably knew of affairs, but not neccessarily that he's a paedo.

Well in the very least she knew he was touchy feely with women. As for the rest, who knows if she had an inkling or checked his browser history.

[viteslesrouges]

She probably knew of affairs, but not neccessarily that he's a paedo.

One of which was with his daughter's friend.

She must have wanted the ground to swallow her if she heard him make the remark about the swimsuit, especially as the girl was only 13 at the time.

[AndyInVA]

having thought about it more I have to admit I would feel she probably knew as well

its total speculation on my part

but to generalize away from this case

when the guy is making loads of money with cheques rolling in and getting to go to TV studios and meet stars etc as well as invites to various celeb parties, it must be very tempting for a weaker person to over look someones indiscretions or stop your self from making real investigations on your suspicions

of course, in the cold light of day, how that partner that didnt act, can live with themselves knowing that if they blew the lid on it years ago that there would be less victims

[Red Beret]

Can't remember the details but I was told (along the lines) that Rolf has transferred his assets into his daughter's name.

[Craig S]

Can't remember the details but I was told (along the lines) that Rolf has transferred his assets into his daughter's name.

I'm glad you put the last word in that sentence.

[Oddball]

I'm glad you put the last word in that sentence.

Shouldnt laugh, but that was funny!

[TepidT2O]

And now police are searching Cliff Richard's home with reference to an historical sex offence (which of course may well not be linked to cliff).

Bloody hell

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28790718

[TepidT2O]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28790718

It is linked to abuse of a boy under the age of sixteen in the 80s

[sinnermichael]

At this point it's probably easier just to arrest anyone that was famous in the 70's just in case.

[TepidT2O]

At this point it's probably easier just to arrest anyone that was famous in the 70's just in case.

It may not have been cliff of course

(And well done for avoiding any young ones references).

[liversaint]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28790718

It is linked to abuse of a boy under the age of sixteen in the 80s

It all becomes clear why he wrote the Young Ones....i

[SP]

Now would be a good time to remind posters that the libel laws apply online.

If you expose RAWK to possible legal action, you are likely to be banned.

With accusations of living people committing paedophilia, please limit the speculation to what is reported in the mainstream press (that does not include David Icke).

[That Kennedy moment]

Interesting that the allegation dates to the 1980s and the South Yorkshire area.

[KennyDaggers]

Can't remember the details but I was told (along the lines) that Rolf has transferred his assets into his daughter's name.

That means absolutely f**k all now.

For a proceeds of crime case they can just say that you've done that to protect your assets and they'll take them anyway without any problems.

[TepidT2O]

Cliff refutes all allegations

Sir Cliff Richard's Berkshire property searched by police
1 minute ago

Police are searching a Berkshire property belonging to Sir Cliff Richard in relation to an alleged historical sex offence.

No arrests have been made and Sir Cliff, who is out of the country, said the allegation was "completely false".

Police spokesman Det Supt Matt Fenwick said the allegation involved a boy under 16 and dated from the 1980s in the South Yorkshire area.

The search in Sunningdale is being carried out by South Yorkshire Police.

The investigation is not connected to Operation Yewtree and police said officers from that operation - set up by the Metropolitan Police to investigate hundreds of allegations in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal - had been notified.

Thames Valley Police said it had assisted the South Yorkshire force with the execution of a search warrant at the property.

Eight plain-clothed police officers in five unmarked cars arrived to conduct the search.

Allegations denied

Sir Cliff has responded to the police search of his apartment in a statement, which said: "For many months I have been aware of allegations against me of historic impropriety which have been circulating online.

"The allegations are completely false. Up until now I have chosen not to dignify the false allegations with a response, as it would just give them more oxygen.

"However, the police attended my apartment in Berkshire today without notice, except it would appear to the press.

"I am not presently in the UK but it goes without saying that I will cooperate fully should the police wish to speak to me. Beyond stating that today's allegation is completely false it would not be appropriate to say anything further until the police investigation has concluded."


Media caption
Detective Superintendent Matt Fenwick of South Yorkshire Police, gave a statement about the search
According to the BBC's Tom Burridge in the Algarve, Portugal, the singer left his home there on Thursday morning and has travelled with his sister to another part of Portugal for a few days.

The singer, born Harry Webb, is one of the most successful British musicians of all time.

He has sold 21.5 million singles - more than any other male British artist - and is the only performer to have had at least one UK top five album in each of the last seven decades.

He has represented the UK in the Eurovision song contest twice and in 2013 released the 100th album of his career.

He was knighted in 1995 and performed at the Queen's Diamond Jubilee concert at Buckingham Palace in 2012.

http://bbc.in/1mMpycH

[oldfordie]

Can't remember the details but I was told (along the lines) that Rolf has transferred his assets into his daughter's name.

I wonder what transferring your assets into your daughters name actually means. my interpretation is he has given her everything he has.
Am no expert but you cant just give all your assets away even if it is to your daughter without paying some form of tax.
As he still alive you would think that it would be classed as a gift and libel to tax at 40%.

[Alan_X]

Now would be a good time to remind posters that the libel laws apply online.

If you expose RAWK to possible legal action, you are likely to be banned.

With accusations of living people committing paedophilia, please limit the speculation to what is reported in the mainstream press (that does not include David Icke).

[CornerFlag]

More of the Savile report's been released.  I'll put a page of it in spoiler tags but for those who've joked about this c*nt in some way (there's a chance I'm included in that but this has sobered me up) I'd think you should read what this utter human scum did to children.

Spoiler

[close]

Here's the link to the report.

http://www.speakingoutinvestigation.com/Downloads/Speaking%20out%20investigation/2902210_Investigation%20into%20the%20Association%20of%20Jimmy%20Savile%20with%20Stoke%20Mandeville%20Hospital.pdf

[Snail]

My God.

[LondonRapLondon]

More of the Savile report's been released.  I'll put a page of it in spoiler tags but for those who've joked about this c*nt in some way (there's a chance I'm included in that but this has sobered me up) I'd think you should read what this utter human scum did to children.

Spoiler

[close]

Here's the link to the report.

http://www.speakingoutinvestigation.com/Downloads/Speaking%20out%20investigation/2902210_Investigation%20into%20the%20Association%20of%20Jimmy%20Savile%20with%20Stoke%20Mandeville%20Hospital.pdf

6.76, the victim reported it to the nurse but she didn't do anything?

This is some very, very uncomfortable reading. The feeling of creepy crawlies on you whilst reading it.

[SP]

Stoke Mandeville is my closest A&E, I know people who work there. That is very sobering.

[Corrie Nick]

6.76, the victim reported it to the nurse but she didn't do anything?

This is some very, very uncomfortable reading. The feeling of creepy crawlies on you whilst reading it.

Who knows why? Perhaps the nurse had reported previous complaints and was warned not to. You wonder how much higher up the chain it goes and how much of a blind eye was turned. Same with that unanswered letter to his secretary - again, she must have seen plenty of similar letters you'd assume.

[LondonRapLondon]

Who knows why? Perhaps the nurse had reported previous complaints and was warned not to. You wonder how much higher up the chain it goes and how much of a blind eye was turned. Same with that unanswered letter to his secretary - again, she must have seen plenty of similar letters you'd assume.

Great point.

This is really tough psychologically to think about.

[Brian Blessed]

I've no desire to open that report, but how many victims are in it total?

[CornerFlag]

I'm reading them one by one, some of it is just harrowing.  It just genuinely makes me wonder how a) we used to treat people, b) we used to disbelieve victims of abuse and c) how much of it still goes on to this day.

I've no desire to open that report, but how many victims are in it total?

There's statements from 55 in the report ranging from forced kissing to rape.

[TepidT2O]

I've no desire to open that report, but how many victims are in it total?

60..... From one place.... 60

[Brian Blessed]

60..... From one place.... 60

I'm reading them one by one, some of it is just harrowing.  It just genuinely makes me wonder how a) we used to treat people, b) we used to disbelieve victims of abuse and c) how much of it still goes on to this day.
There's statements from 55 in the report ranging from forced kissing to rape.

Thanks you two.

[Red Beret]

No wonder this scumbag had his grave filled with concrete.

[Commie Bobbie]

I don't really want to open that link as it may cause me some sort of fucking flashback - but when I'm ready I'm going to have to read it.

[ashleyrose-66]

Gary Glitter sentenced to 16 years in prison..

[Red Beret]

Gary Glitter sentenced to 16 years in prison..

Good enough.  He's never getting out alive.

[Red Genius]

Gary Glitter sentenced to 16 years in prison..

Good, hope he rots.... been a long time coming for that prick. I had jokes taking the piss outta him when i was at school, thats a couple decades back now.

[Trada]

Something I don't understand Glitter got 16 years for 3 accounts of historic rape.

But when they sentenced the other ones before they got far less time for more crimes because the judge said he couldn't give them longer because of when they happened.

I find that odd.

[TepidT2O]

Has the law changed since then?