Topic: Brendan Rodgers: An Insight

[gray19lfc]

Have to admit I was a bit underwhelmed about the news.  I wanted a proven manager with league titles and European Cups on their CV.  I wanted Rafa.

But having read the opening post of this thread, I'm now more excited than nervous.  Especially if we bring in van Gaal, seems Rodgers really looks up to him.

[gods_left_peg]

After reading all the articles on the front page I'm looking forward to seeing how we play next season. Rodgers seems to have a great knowledge of the game and is always looking to improve.

Stolen from twitter, I wonder if the owners sent him his copy of money ball

[Ikki.Fenikkusu]

Not a matter of learning the trade. It's a matter of stability. Some of the best managers in the world have suffered horrendous starts to their careers/new managerial posts.

If he doesn't succeed he should be fired. No ifs and buts. This is Liverpool. He's already a huge risk. It's like betting over the top and then shoving all-in once you see the other person has 4 of a kind. It'd be stupid decision to let him continue if he does not have success within the first 2 years (at most).

Personally, if his future is destined not to be success I'd rather he crashed and burned so we could move on quickly than have mediocrity prolonged for years.

[TLW 84]

Quite a few of us did, considering his sides had torn us to shreds twice competitively, and he had won La Liga with Valencia.

That's not saying a lot though is it mate? He knew all about them being skeptical about him when he arrived and about them being critical of his tactics before it took off. I don't know why he'd lie.

[Gainsbarre]

Good fluid, possession based football, and occasionally beating a few of the big five teams is all we can realistically hope for. Consolidate 6th for a few seasons. Buy some promising young players, and gradually challenge for 4th in 3/4 years time, all things remaining equal. Think Rodgers will definitely get us playing good football, truthfully given the financial doping addicts at Chelsea and City (and the lack of will to really tackle this within Uefa), that is all we can hope for.

I think Rodgers will have two years for the CL qualification... so your plan is not much the american's one.. imo

[kenworthy]

How about ace (Red Dwarf fans'll get it)

Haha!
And from American_Kopite: "I can see it on a banner"

Unless you're too short/a dwarf?

[djschembri]

I'm excited about him. He talks a lot of sense, he plays football the way it should be played. You have to admire the work he has done at Swansea. They played us off the park at Anfield.

Welcome Rodgers.

[Lucas DuoFlush]

He has, and always will be, Reliant Rodgins to me, and no amount of new nicknames will change that.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Fan of Big Bren

BBB

Big Bad Bren

[kenworthy]

BBB

Big Bad Bren

Even better!

[lfcshaunod]

Sky Sports have got Garry Monk on the phone.

He sounds fuckimg gutted that Rodgers is leaving.

[stevied]

seems as though he will be joining us before the weekend, hope he gets the backing from the owners financially and from the fans, his Swansea team certainly passed the tits of us last season, if his appointment brings us an attacking style with a few additions then hopefully next season will be an enjoyable one

[redmark]

I'd not 'picked' a preferred candidate or said I really wanted anyone in the last couple of weeks. The name that stood out for me initially (bar Rafa) was probably De Boer, but as the articles were put up and I read more about him, I'd become very keen on Rodgers. This appointment and the new structure, I hope, could herald something special for us in the next few seasons.

[kenworthy]

If he doesn't succeed he should be fired. No ifs and buts. This is Liverpool. He's already a huge risk. It's like betting over the top and then shoving all-in once you see the other person has 4 of a kind. It'd be stupid decision to let him continue if he does not have success within the first 2 years (at most).

Personally, if his future is destined not to be success I'd rather he crashed and burned so we could move on quickly than have mediocrity prolonged for years.

Not exactly my idea of rebuilding from the already prolonged mediocrity. But to each his own.

[norecat]

Welcome to Liverpool FC Brendan  Every good wishes in the job. If he is given time I think he can rebuild the club in a manner which will lay down roots for future sustainable success. He have the correct mindset in how he goes about the job, philosophy in how the game should be played and he always humbly references his working class background. Nice to have a fellow Irishman in the hot seat. I wonder will this be a landmark appointment for the club a la Mr Shankly. I'm excited!

[Dr. Beaker]

why don't we call him Kenny - as in Kenny Rogers.

[richiedouglas]

I'm very happy today. I think he'll be excellent.

[Twelfth Man]

I think Rodgers will have two years for the CL qualification... so your plan is not much the american's one.. imo

Well unless FSG plan to dip into their shallow pockets, I can't see how that is possible, unless, Rodgers is some kind of genius and can compete with the two c*nt financed teams, plus Arsenal, United and Spurs with a limited budget.

[lfcshaunod]

If he doesn't succeed he should be fired. No ifs and buts. This is Liverpool. He's already a huge risk. It's like betting over the top and then shoving all-in once you see the other person has 4 of a kind. It'd be stupid decision to let him continue if he does not have success within the first 2 years (at most).

Personally, if his future is destined not to be success I'd rather he crashed and burned so we could move on quickly than have mediocrity prolonged for years.

Behave you moaning fucker.

Give the bloke a fucking chance. He hasnt even signed yet and your calling for him to fail quickly.

Ridiculous post.

[kenworthy]

why don't we call him Kenny - as in Kenny Rogers.

Too close to home. 

[Heighwayondawing]

Jesus, aleady speculation on firing the man should he not succeed. I really dislike some of our "support".

Thanks for the articles, very informative.

Now everyone, support the Manager!

[Ikki.Fenikkusu]

Not exactly my idea of rebuilding from the already prolonged mediocrity. But to each his own.

Liverpool are still a club that can attract coaches of the highest caliber - e.g. Benitez and AVB, but to name two. Coaches already renown for doing amazing things and changing the fortune of clubs quickly. This idea that we must give a relative unknown coach time to build is a fiction created by fans who wish to save face and create a visage of supporting the club, without being impartial/brave enough to call a duck a duck. If anything, it'd make more sense to give a coach who has achieved something more time.

If Liverpool aren't reaching their targets in year one of Rodgers reign, yet decide to hold him and he doesn't reach it in year two either...why in holy hell would you keep him for 3? Or 5 as some, unbelievably, say. It's a preposterous position based on unreasonable logic.

[stonty]

To paraphrase Kenny Everett,

'Brendan Rodgers.... but doesn't everybody?'

[Ikki.Fenikkusu]

Behave you moaning fucker.

Give the bloke a fucking chance. He hasnt even signed yet and your calling for him to fail quickly.

Ridiculous post.

Learn to read. I said if his destiny is to fail - an if, treated as a given in a hypothetical - then him failing badly gives us the courage to change course quickly. It is a far better alternative than to keep a mediocre level for years and wasting time.

[kkjellquist]

Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, but to name two. Coaches already renown for doing amazing things and changing the fortune of clubs quickly.

Winning a one-horse race and getting run out of London after half a season is amazing?! hmmmmm

[lfcshaunod]

Liverpool are still a club that can attract coaches of the highest caliber - e.g. Benitez and Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, but to name two. Coaches already renown for doing amazing things and changing the fortune of clubs quickly. This idea that we must give a relative unknown coach time to build is a fiction created by fans who wish to save face and create a visage of supporting the club, without being impartial/brave enough to call a duck a duck. If anything, it'd make more sense to give a coach who has achieved something more time.

If Liverpool aren't reaching their targets in year one of Rodgers reign, yet decide to hold him and he doesn't reach it in year two either...why in holy hell would you keep him for 3? Or 5 as some, unbelievably, say. It's a preposterous position based on unreasonable logic.

And what if....prepare yourself....he doesnt fail?!

Eh?! What about that?! What if he is brilliant?!

Fuck sake.

[finchy1972]

Made up to be honest I think he's going to make a few people eat humble pie

[YnWa99]

If he doesn't succeed he should be fired. No ifs and buts. This is Liverpool. He's already a huge risk. It's like betting over the top and then shoving all-in once you see the other person has 4 of a kind. It'd be stupid decision to let him continue if he does not have success within the first 2 years (at most).

Personally, if his future is destined not to be success I'd rather he crashed and burned so we could move on quickly than have mediocrity prolonged for years.

Nothing like a bit of support for a new recruit...

Joker.

[placidcasual]

I have to admit that if Martinez was appointed I would have been very disillusioned. But I'm very positive about Rodgers. He has been very astute in his dealings with Chelsea and Liverpool, is a real student of the game and his teams play lovely football. For the first time in 3 years I'm genuinely optimistic that Liverpool are on the way back up.

I'm not going to preach we should all get behind him because I hated when people said that to me about Hodgson but I am fully confident Rodgers will win the doubters around.

Onwards and Upwards

[djschembri]

He hasn't even signed a deal, and some people already want him to fail? You do understand that if he fails, then the club fails right. Pathetic.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Liverpool are still a club that can attract coaches of the highest caliber - e.g. Benitez and Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, but to name two. Coaches already renown for doing amazing things and changing the fortune of clubs quickly. This idea that we must give a relative unknown coach time to build is a fiction created by fans who wish to save face and create a visage of supporting the club, without being impartial/brave enough to call a duck a duck. If anything, it'd make more sense to give a coach who has achieved something more time.

If Liverpool aren't reaching their targets in year one of Rodgers reign, yet decide to hold him and he doesn't reach it in year two either...why in holy hell would you keep him for 3? Or 5 as some, unbelievably, say. It's a preposterous position based on unreasonable logic.

So what do you suggest then? Boo the new manager from the off at the ground? Start an internet campaign to get him out?

[rafa4eva]

Wow.

Good luck Brendan, as hinsey said u do have some ruddy big wellies to fill!

Seems To have a philosophy of football which kind of aligns with rafa .... Which is a postive for me....

Then again he loves mourinho, so on principle that's a negative for me... Does no one else see the horns, forked tongue and general evil around the moaner???

All in all, decision taken, let's move forwards .... Together....I hope ....

[Ikki.Fenikkusu]

Winning a one-horse race and getting run out of London after half a season is amazing?! hmmmmm

One horse race? He won every title he possibly could, including the UEFA cup. He went undefeated in the league. He won almost 90% of all the matches they played. To do just one of those things is notable, let alone doing all of them. And, ironically, he left Chelsea higher in the league than Di Matteo left them. A bad tenure with them, sure, but comparing CVs it is far better than Rodgers' and that is not debatable.

[Ikki.Fenikkusu]

So what do you suggest then? Boo the new manager from the off at the ground? Start an internet campaign to get him out?

No. That if he is failing we remove him early - not as you suggested and give him 5 years to show he can't hack it.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Wow.

Good luck Brendan, as hinsey said u do have some ruddy big wellies to fill!

Seems To have a philosophy of football which kind of aligns with rafa .... Which is a postive for me....

Then again he loves mourinho, so on principle that's a negative for me... Does no one else see the horns, forked tongue and general evil around the moaner???

All in all, decision taken, let's move forwards .... Together....I hope ....

Mourinho hates Ferguson, the LMA, the British media and the FA.

Let's hope Brendan has been taught well.

[kenworthy]

Liverpool are still a club that can attract coaches of the highest caliber - e.g. Benitez and Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas, but to name two. Coaches already renown for doing amazing things and changing the fortune of clubs quickly. This idea that we must give a relative unknown coach time to build is a fiction created by fans who wish to save face and create a visage of supporting the club, without being impartial/brave enough to call a duck a duck. If anything, it'd make more sense to give a coach who has achieved something more time.

If Liverpool aren't reaching their targets in year one of Rodgers reign, yet decide to hold him and he doesn't reach it in year two either...why in holy hell would you keep him for 3? Or 5 as some, unbelievably, say. It's a preposterous position based on unreasonable logic.

I'd prefer not to have the managerial carousel of some of the plastic Prem clubs that I won't name on this thread. Again, just my preference.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

No. That if he is failing we remove him early - not as you suggested and give him 5 years to show he can't hack it.

You really want LFC to fail don't you?

You think that a conveyer belt of managers at a club without unlimited funds is anything other than fucking ridiculous?

[Ikki.Fenikkusu]

And what if....prepare yourself....he doesnt fail?!

Eh?! What about that?! What if he is brilliant?!

Fuck sake.

Genius, if he is brilliant then great, we keep him. I am contesting the idiotic logic that we keep him for 5 years if he is failing.

You really want LFC to fail don't you?

You think that a conveyer belt of managers at a club without unlimited funds is anything other than fucking ridiculous?

And how did you deduce that?

[kenworthy]

One horse race? He won every title he possibly could, including the UEFA cup. He went undefeated in the league. He won almost 90% of all the matches they played. To do just one of those things is notable, let alone doing all of them. And, ironically, he left Chelsea higher in the league than Di Matteo left them. A bad tenure with them, sure, but comparing CVs it is far better than Rodgers' and that is not debatable.

Are you sure you're on the right forum?

[Ikki.Fenikkusu]

I'd prefer not to have the managerial carousel of some of the plastic Prem clubs that I won't name on this thread. Again, just my preference.

So you'd forgo finding a solution quicker to later, so you don't disturb the sensibilities of neutrals? This kind of logic is not conducive to success.