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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19600 on: May 20, 2022, 03:16:28 pm »
Yeah Eddie,you just keep on concentrating on the football and leave those politics out of it,there's a good boy.


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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19601 on: May 20, 2022, 03:31:16 pm »
He won't be there for long anyway. Once they start spending big and recruiting staff, he'll be out the door to make way for someone like Mourinho or Simeone. Then they can also start rehearsing the same scripts that Howe is reading off.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19602 on: May 22, 2022, 06:32:04 am »


From BBC:s gossip column.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19603 on: May 22, 2022, 06:46:21 am »
essence of the story is in the headline, no meat really

The Cabinet Office has admitted the Prime Minister communicated over Newcastle’s takeover with a special advisor on Saudi Arabia, but is refusing to release emails and messages they shared. In its response to this newspaper’s freedom of information request, 10 Downing Street claimed that revealing the correspondence could undermine the UK’s role in the Middle East.

The letter to this newspaper said: ‘The Cabinet Office recognises there is a general public interest in openness. We have weighed that interest against a stronger public interest in the United Kingdom being able successfully to pursue our national interests.

‘Releasing information which was shared with the UK on a confidential basis could undermine the UK’s role in the Middle East region and elsewhere. If we want to continue to play an influencing role, then our bilateral relationships need to be protected.’

The Premier League finally agreed to allow the sale of Newcastle in October 2021 after months of wrangling, when it ruled that Saudi Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman, who is accused by US intelligence of approving the operation to capture or kill the murdered journalist Jamal Khashoggi, would not have to submit himself to the owners’ and directors’ test.

It is known Bin Salman personally contacted Johnson in June 2020, warning him in a text that Anglo-Saudi relations would be damaged unless the £300m sale to the wealth fund PIF was approved. Bin Salman is chairman of PIF, which owns 80 per cent of Newcastle. He told Johnson then: ‘We expect the Premier League to reconsider and correct its wrong conclusion.’


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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19604 on: May 22, 2022, 09:58:14 am »
True there's no meat and it's not unknown but to read that the Premier League didn't submit him to the owners’ and directors’ test and they've also approved the sale because the club isn't state owned but then also that Johnson was contacted prior to the sale of the club that Anglo-Saudi relations would be damaged unless the sale went through is really galling.
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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19605 on: May 22, 2022, 10:11:49 am »
if that is news to anyone, including their own fans, yes, it's jolting for sure and red flags the whole pile of bullshit revolving around our game and beyond
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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19606 on: May 22, 2022, 10:12:39 am »
True there's no meat and it's unknown but to read that the Premier League didn't submit him to the owners’ and directors’ test and they've also approved the sale because the club isn't state owned but then also that Johnson was contacted prior to the sale of the club that Anglo-Saudi relations would be damaged unless the sale went through is really galling.

That last paragraph alone is meat.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19607 on: May 22, 2022, 10:19:04 am »
Johnson wasn’t going to upset the red wall voters who voted for him either.
The man is a skunk. He stinks out every thing he touches, with his corruption.
“Slapping down Klopp” for saying look at “why” people booed, whilst telling the racists it was OK to boo players.
He knows if he keeps 35% of the country who are racists and gammons on his side, he gets a majority.
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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19608 on: May 22, 2022, 10:28:15 am »
if that is news to anyone, including their own fans, yes, it's jolting for sure and red flags the whole pile of bullshit revolving around our game and beyond

Sorry, meant to put not unknown. This and Man City and PSG, with their owner being in at UEFA, everything just stinks.
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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19609 on: May 22, 2022, 12:03:25 pm »
Under FIFA statues that 3rd-party interference from outside the FA should result in a ban

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/4b2bac74655c7c13/original/viz2gmyb5x0pd24qrhrx-pdf.pdf

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14 Member associations’ obligations
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i) to manage their affairs independently and ensure that their own affairs are not influenced by any third parties in accordance with art. 19 of these Statutes;

19 Independence of member associations and their bodies
1. Each member association shall manage its affairs independently and without undue influence from third parties.

Have the FA not broken that by being influenced by the government to accept the bid?

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19610 on: May 22, 2022, 12:08:09 pm »
Under FIFA statues that 3rd-party interference from outside the FA should result in a ban

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/4b2bac74655c7c13/original/viz2gmyb5x0pd24qrhrx-pdf.pdf

Have the FA not broken that by being influenced by the government to accept the bid?

Right but page 11 :

3 Human rights
FIFA is committed to respecting all internationally recognised human rights
and shall strive to promote the protection of these rights.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19611 on: May 22, 2022, 12:32:57 pm »
Right but page 11 :

3 Human rights
FIFA is committed to respecting all internationally recognised human rights
and shall strive to promote the protection of these rights.

So they hold the WC in Qatar. Strange way of supporting Human rights.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19612 on: May 24, 2022, 09:07:59 am »
You have to laugh at the plaudits Howe is getting don't you? They literally postponed matches due to COVID, spent 100 million and then carried on with the season. Tactical masterclass from Edward.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19613 on: May 24, 2022, 09:14:19 am »
You have to laugh at the plaudits Howe is getting don't you? They literally postponed matches due to COVID, spent 100 million and then carried on with the season. Tactical masterclass from Edward.
It's been bugging me for a while. Clearly forgetting the fact they spent 100M in the January window. He better enjoy it now cos he'll be gone in 18 months when they can get Sir Gareth in.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19615 on: May 24, 2022, 09:30:05 pm »
Government got involved in the Saudi takeover according to David Conn

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/24/government-did-encourage-premier-league-to-approve-saudi-newcastle-takeover?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Thought as much, and said so at the time as did many others. The game in this country has been destroyed by these despotic oil states wanting to take it over.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19616 on: May 24, 2022, 09:43:46 pm »
Government got involved in the Saudi takeover according to David Conn

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/24/government-did-encourage-premier-league-to-approve-saudi-newcastle-takeover?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I feel like this was known at the time - but the blatant corruption allowed this to be good.

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« Reply #19618 on: May 24, 2022, 09:52:47 pm »
Government got involved in the Saudi takeover according to David Conn

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/24/government-did-encourage-premier-league-to-approve-saudi-newcastle-takeover?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Awful but most knew this was the case I think.

Thought as much, and said so at the time as did many others. The game in this country has been destroyed by these despotic oil states wanting to take it over.

Yep and enabled by the Premier League and the government; it's sickening.
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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19619 on: May 25, 2022, 09:04:43 am »
A takeover of a traditional club by a human-rights abusing despotic regime hoping to use it as a Sportswashing vehicle, doing irreversible damage to the sport we love, and all encouraged and enabled by a Tory government.

Any Newcastle fan who has supported and continues to support this should hang their heads in shame. What a disgrace.

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« Reply #19620 on: May 25, 2022, 09:43:41 am »
Hopefully the confirmation of Boris and his cronies involvement will start to turn the tide of people accepting these sportswashing c*nts destroying the game.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19621 on: May 25, 2022, 10:41:15 am »
A takeover of a traditional club by a human-rights abusing despotic regime hoping to use it as a Sportswashing vehicle, doing irreversible damage to the sport we love, and all encouraged and enabled by a Tory government.

Any Newcastle fan who has supported and continues to support this should hang their heads in shame. What a disgrace.

They genuinely don't care about any of this. Was in Newcastle for work 2 weeks ago and spoke to probably about 10 people about their ownership and they all don't give a shit who owns them as long as they are led to the promise land. Oh and the main response I got was "anyone is better than Mike Ashley. We've suffered enough. "

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« Reply #19622 on: May 25, 2022, 11:02:04 am »
Hopefully the confirmation of Boris and his cronies involvement will start to turn the tide of people accepting these sportswashing c*nts destroying the game.

No chance!

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« Reply #19623 on: May 25, 2022, 11:23:03 am »
They genuinely don't care about any of this. Was in Newcastle for work 2 weeks ago and spoke to probably about 10 people about their ownership and they all don't give a shit who owns them as long as they are led to the promise land. Oh and the main response I got was "anyone is better than Mike Ashley. We've suffered enough. "
They act as if he was pulling a Hicks & Gillett on them the way they go on about him.

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« Reply #19624 on: May 25, 2022, 11:30:57 am »
Government got involved in the Saudi takeover according to David Conn

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/24/government-did-encourage-premier-league-to-approve-saudi-newcastle-takeover?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson during the furor over the Super League fiasco:

“These clubs are not just great global brands – of course they’re great global brands – they’re also clubs that have originated historically from their towns, from their cities, from their local communities. They should have a link with those fans, and with the fanbase in their community."

What an absolute gang of c*nts.

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« Reply #19625 on: May 25, 2022, 11:45:27 am »

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19626 on: May 28, 2022, 09:25:50 am »

Just announced they will having preseason matches against Atalanta and Athletic Bilbao in July.

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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19627 on: June 7, 2022, 03:58:53 pm »
Props to Rob Harris asking those golfers the questions that Eddie Howe (and Ped Guardiola) needs asking every single week:

https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1534178101294415873?s

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« Reply #19628 on: June 7, 2022, 07:23:40 pm »
Props to Rob Harris asking those golfers the questions that Eddie Howe (and Ped Guardiola) needs asking every single week:

https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1534178101294415873?s
What an absolute shithouse of an answer. He might as well have said’ look, they’re paying me a fucking shit load and that’s all I care about’.

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« Reply #19629 on: June 7, 2022, 07:56:13 pm »
Props to Rob Harris asking those golfers the questions that Eddie Howe (and Ped Guardiola) needs asking every single week:

https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1534178101294415873?s

Pathetic answer.
Bit odd though that it's basically being restricted to golf. Heard similar being asked of Greg Norman, but very little elsewhere. Certainly not like the shit questions put to Ped and Howe.
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Re: Newcastle United - RIP Jamal Khashoggi
« Reply #19630 on: June 7, 2022, 08:19:10 pm »
Hopefully the confirmation of Boris and his cronies involvement will start to turn the tide of people accepting these sportswashing c*nts destroying the game.
Absolutely zero chance, look at how much that fat c*nt has gotten away with already. Not to mention football fans are complete hypocrites who don't give a shite, as long as Liverpool don't win.

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« Reply #19631 on: June 7, 2022, 11:33:56 pm »
Pathetic answer.
Bit odd though that it's basically being restricted to golf. Heard similar being asked of Greg Norman, but very little elsewhere. Certainly not like the shit questions put to Ped and Howe.

Probably because this is a step beyond buying clubs in established leagues and associations. Saudi Arabia are trying to take control of a whole sport.

Tiger Woods turned down hundreds of millions of dollars apparently. Good on him.
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« Reply #19632 on: June 8, 2022, 09:28:56 am »
Probably because this is a step beyond buying clubs in established leagues and associations. Saudi Arabia are trying to take control of a whole sport.

Tiger Woods turned down hundreds of millions of dollars apparently. Good on him.

Also with the nature of golf and with it being an individual sport, it's just more obviously about money. Players can move to Man City and get paid more than anywhere else, but they can claim it's more about playing at the highest level and having a greater chance of trophies etc.
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« Reply #19633 on: June 8, 2022, 10:47:15 am »
Probably because this is a step beyond buying clubs in established leagues and associations. Saudi Arabia are trying to take control of a whole sport.

Tiger Woods turned down hundreds of millions of dollars apparently. Good on him.
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« Reply #19634 on: June 8, 2022, 01:15:35 pm »
What an absolute shithouse of an answer. He might as well have said’ look, they’re paying me a fucking shit load and that’s all I care about’.

I would have more respect for someone if they came out and said that, everyone knows its the truth anyway. These fuckers are ripping the soul out of sport. As someone here said they're going after an entire sport now which is massively concerning.

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« Reply #19635 on: June 8, 2022, 10:11:43 pm »
Would you back the club if they refused to pay Newcastle and forfeited 6 points ?
I think I would .  Not sure what stance the sponsors would take.
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« Reply #19636 on: June 9, 2022, 01:08:55 am »
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« Reply #19637 on: June 9, 2022, 01:42:32 am »
One step beyond? That's Madness!

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« Reply #19638 on: June 9, 2022, 10:07:37 am »
Looks like the USPGA are learning first hand what the Saudi blood money can do. Lots of big names resigning from the USPGA and signing on to the LIV rebel league. Allegedly Phil Mickelson is getting $200 mil and quite a few others are jumping on to the blood trail.

Newcastle are going to blow everyone out of the water in a few years, competition as we know it, is dead.
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« Reply #19639 on: June 9, 2022, 10:24:56 am »
Would you back the club if they refused to pay Newcastle and forfeited 6 points ?
I think I would.  Not sure what stance the sponsors would take.
I would.  It’s a really difficult situation for any single club though, were any minded to do it.  They’d have to be very clear what the boycott is for, and why it doesn’t apply to City.  The penalty would also end up being a far greater points deduction than just six - it would be a direct attack on the integrity of the competition so realistically expulsion ought to be the penalty, but also realistically they’re not going to do that to Liverpool.  Might expect twelve or twenty points pour encourager les autres.

Which is to say, this is obviously and always has been a matter for a central authority to decide.  That die is cast so realistically it’s very hard to see any individual club in basically any circumstances taking a stand like that.