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Re: 9/11
« Reply #240 on: September 11, 2011, 11:03:40 am »
Don't think I've ever seen that picture before

Astonishing image. Cant even begin to imagine seeing that live, not knowing what on earth was going on. Must have shook you to your core.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #241 on: September 11, 2011, 12:26:42 pm »
Both buildings leaned at impact - eight to ten seconds in one direction, like a sailboat catching a strong wind, then straightened out.

Structurally they were sound enough. But other *non-structural* factors sealed the fates of people caught in them, like the fact that all doors leading to the roof were locked. Even though the smoke made a roof rescue nigh impossible, many folks were trapped trying to pry the doors open in vain.

Also in the mix was the fact that it was aviation fuel that was driving the fire at a point that made the steel fail and effectively the area above the impacts became a downward exerting weight through the structure, leading to the towers collapsing straight down

So many terrible factors on a terrible day
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #242 on: September 11, 2011, 12:47:25 pm »
the guardian is tweeting 9/11 as it happened:

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #243 on: September 11, 2011, 01:00:17 pm »
I was in the metrocentre this day 10 years ago and watched it on a TV in Dixons.  It's like it wasn't really happening, a mad dram or something.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #244 on: September 11, 2011, 01:04:22 pm »
Can't believe it has been 10 years already. That day change the whole world. May all the innocent people that lost their lives that day R.I.P. :(
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #245 on: September 11, 2011, 01:16:23 pm »
RIP to everyone who lost their lives on that horrible day.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #246 on: September 11, 2011, 01:16:30 pm »
I have sickle cell so I had a blood transfusion that day.Then i came home and saw it on the news. I did not realise its significance at the time.It sounds bad to say but it was almost like watching a film on the news.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #247 on: September 11, 2011, 01:19:17 pm »
10 years on and I still find it difficult to comprehend.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #248 on: September 11, 2011, 01:50:13 pm »
One thing I dont think people realise is the scale of loss. Near 3000 died, but it wasnt that they simply died, many of them vanished, I have a friend whose 18 year old neice started work in tower one that day, they never found anything, not a scrap, just gone in a cloud of dust and rubble.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #249 on: September 11, 2011, 02:03:23 pm »
2nd tower hit exactly ten years.

It really doesnt seem like that, but so much has happened since

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #250 on: September 11, 2011, 02:03:38 pm »
If you get the History Channel, 102 Minutes That Changed America is on now. Terrifying stuff.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #251 on: September 11, 2011, 02:05:38 pm »
If you get the History Channel, 102 Minutes That Changed America is on now. Terrifying stuff.

tapin all that. Dont know if thats a bit gruesome to do or not, but Id like to see it
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #252 on: September 11, 2011, 02:05:44 pm »
I came home from school and found my mum crying on the sofa. Can't believe it was ten years ago.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #253 on: September 11, 2011, 02:06:32 pm »
Ten years. Can't believe it's so long. R.I.P to all who perished, and my heart is with the tens of thousands of people personally affected by the tragedy.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #254 on: September 11, 2011, 02:37:20 pm »
Just reading this about a guy who was in the WTC when the first plane hit and whos sister and niece were on board the second plane that hit. Heartbreaking stuff

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Ron-Clifford-escaped-World-Trade-Center-sister-niece-killed-in-plane-121086179.htmlhttp://www.irishcentral.com/news/Ron-Clifford-escaped-World-Trade-Center-sister-niece-killed-in-plane-121086179.html

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #255 on: September 11, 2011, 02:49:06 pm »
If you get the History Channel, 102 Minutes That Changed America is on now. Terrifying stuff.

Horrible viewing.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #256 on: September 11, 2011, 03:09:03 pm »
Anyone know why the Guardian twitter feed stopped? The one that was doing the timeline of the attacks?
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #257 on: September 11, 2011, 03:20:57 pm »
Possibly someone felt it was inappropriate and complained.

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« Reply #258 on: September 11, 2011, 03:22:23 pm »
Anyone know why the Guardian twitter feed stopped? The one that was doing the timeline of the attacks?

Good old Twitter outrage. AP have been doing exactly the same thing.

I don't really get it, personally. Not sure how it's "disgusting" and "sick" and "disgraceful" but the History Channel showing 102 Minutes That Changed America (also in real-time) isn't, for example. Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #259 on: September 11, 2011, 03:59:42 pm »
Just watching the remembrance thing on BBC1, so sad.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #260 on: September 11, 2011, 04:04:48 pm »
10 years today.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #261 on: September 11, 2011, 04:06:37 pm »
Finding it a bit difficult to watch the service from Grosvenor Square.

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« Reply #262 on: September 11, 2011, 04:10:16 pm »
All very sad.  :'(

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #263 on: September 11, 2011, 04:10:26 pm »
What strikes me from the Coverage of this and the reading of the names, Its always reported as an attack on the American people/ West. The names, are so, worldwide. Creed, nationality, religion, gender..... irrelevant. Heartbreaking.
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« Reply #264 on: September 11, 2011, 04:24:29 pm »
Remember coming home from School and seeing it on the telly. Never forget seeing that person jump from the building.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #265 on: September 11, 2011, 04:30:04 pm »
The average age of those murdered on that day was 40, at the time I was 34. What a waste I have made of 10 years that so many would have swapped for ten minutes more.
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« Reply #266 on: September 11, 2011, 04:40:03 pm »
I was packing ready to head back to Nottingham for my final year in University. My dad called up the stairs for me to come and watch the news and remember being sure it would be an interview with Ged about the CL match.
The first thing i said was it was terrorism and my mum disagreeing saying it was a small plane and an accident and me saying look how clear the weather is no way is that an accident or a small plane, Then while they were interviewing a the bbc reporter in NY the second plane went in and removed all doubt.
I remember going down the pub for the match that evening and from it being such a massive event, our first foray into the champions league, hardly watching the game, just standing round the bar talking about what had happened and how the world wouldnt be the same after the events of that afternoon.

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« Reply #267 on: September 11, 2011, 04:44:25 pm »
I was asleep and of course could not believe my eyes when I turned on the TV.
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« Reply #268 on: September 11, 2011, 04:58:39 pm »
terrible day.  I was at home and watching it on the telly and just couldn't believe it.  I remember thinking that there must be tens of thousands of people who had just lost their lives when the first tower went and then the horror of the second tower going and that huge plume of smoke and dust that rose into the air.

It is a miracle that not more were killed that day, given that each tower usually had thousands of people in it each day.

I watched a programme the other night about the work a small downtown hospital did that day, dealing with all the injured, not only people who had got out of the towers but pedestrians who were injured by flaming jet fuel and falling debris - something I hadn't really thought about till I saw that programme.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #269 on: September 11, 2011, 05:51:50 pm »
May they all rest in peace.

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« Reply #270 on: September 11, 2011, 06:10:14 pm »
terrible day.  I was at home and watching it on the telly and just couldn't believe it.  I remember thinking that there must be tens of thousands of people who had just lost their lives when the first tower went and then the horror of the second tower going and that huge plume of smoke and dust that rose into the air.

It is a miracle that not more were killed that day, given that each tower usually had thousands of people in it each day.

I watched a programme the other night about the work a small downtown hospital did that day, dealing with all the injured, not only people who had got out of the towers but pedestrians who were injured by flaming jet fuel and falling debris - something I hadn't really thought about till I saw that programme.
and then add in all the people who did or will die prematurely from breathing in the dust...it boggles the mind.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #271 on: September 11, 2011, 06:49:22 pm »
Sky News have their coverage from the day on the red button. Bit surreal watching it back knowing what happened.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #272 on: September 11, 2011, 07:06:51 pm »
I doubt there will ever be something so unique (maybe wrong word to use?) in the sense that it was the biggest atrocity in my lifetime, and it was all caught on camera, at least from after the first planes impact.

Most terrorist atrocities are captured after the fact. This one was played out live on TV, and the impact and the shock of seeing it live will never diminish for me. It really won't. Even now, 10 years later, it's as shocking now as it was back then. I still sit glued to anything connected with it because it still seems unreal.

I watched a programme on Sky the other night, not sure of it was NG, History or Discovery, called 10 Years Later. It was the story of the two french documentary makers who were there to make a film about New York City fire crews, one house in particular, and who were the people who captured the first plane hit when they were filming the fire crew in the street. It was so moving. Very powerful film. All taken on the day, all as it happened.

The things that stood out for me was the firefighters faces. They just seemed in complete shock. The film captured the moment when the crews in one tower heard the other collapsing and just ran for their lives. The moment when the second collapsed, and then the moments where, one by one, all the firefighters from that one fire house gradually came back to the fire house covered in dust and debris. I'll admit, I was crying watching it because it showed the raw emotion of the crew as they came back, saying 'I thought you were dead' to their colleagues, and hugging and in tears themselves.

The moment when the two french guys, brothers, just stood there, then one hugged the other and they both burst into tears at what had just happened, was very moving.
If anyone manages to catch it at some point, it's a brilliant 2 hour document of that day, and sums up the shock, panic and emotions of it all.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #273 on: September 11, 2011, 07:14:20 pm »
Thanks for that Paul, ill look that up.
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« Reply #274 on: September 11, 2011, 07:23:30 pm »
Paul, is that the same documentary where they're in the lobby of one of the buildings and they hear thumping...and one asks what the noise is, and a fireman says something like "jumpers"?

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« Reply #275 on: September 11, 2011, 07:49:07 pm »
If anybody has a link to that documentary i'd be very interested in seeing it.
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Re: 9/11
« Reply #276 on: September 11, 2011, 07:50:54 pm »
If anybody has a link to that documentary i'd be very interested in seeing it.
It will be on the Nat Geo channel (Sky 526) at 8pm tonight and then on +1 (Channel 527) at 9pm.

Thanks for that Paul, ill look that up.

I haven't seen it myself so I'm going to watch it.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #277 on: September 11, 2011, 07:56:29 pm »
Paul, is that the same documentary where they're in the lobby of one of the buildings and they hear thumping...and one asks what the noise is, and a fireman says something like "jumpers"?

Yeah. They basically went with the fire crews and filmed them in the lobby. One of the brothers went with them, the other stayed at the firehouse then went along the streets filming people watching it all going on. The film then interviews the firefighters 10 years later, it's a very good 2 hours. Captures the emotions and everything else of the day very well.

It's either called 10 Years Later or Ten Years On. I'll have a look. It was on this week on one of those channels, 2 hours and with no ad breaks.

EDIT: I think it's on right now on National Geographic channel.

http://natgeotv.com/uk/911-ten-years-later/videos/world-trade-center

It will be on the Nat Geo channel (Sky 526) at 8pm tonight and then on +1 (Channel 527) at 9pm.

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Re: 9/11
« Reply #278 on: September 11, 2011, 08:19:33 pm »
Thanks for letting me know about this documentary Paul. I'll be watching it at 9 as I already missed 20 minutes and want to see it all.
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« Reply #279 on: September 11, 2011, 08:20:44 pm »
I'm just watching back the American service of Remembrance. It's utterly heartbreaking, the horror of the film footage and pictures doesn't fade with time.
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